What are your thoughts on the Ukraine-Russia crisis that is currently brewing?
Are we going to see an all out war? A friend of mine who is half Polish from his mothers side has been talking about an absolute state of fear and uncertainty amongst his maternal family members back home and apparently this sentiment is being shared by almost everyone living in Baltic nations and surrounding former USSR states.
US media is certain that a invasion is coming while russians are denying it (duh). not sure if we want to call it a war unless russians decide to capture few areas and walk away. highly unlikely
There is some context which one should understand before being able to fully appreciate the gravity of the situation. At the time of German unification in 1990, the US promised Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would not expand eastward. However, that promise was not kept and NATO expanded into East Europe using various justifications throughout the decades and now has reached all the way up to the Russian borders in some places. For example, flying distance from NATO airspace to St. Petersburg back then was 1200 miles which has now been reduced to less than 100 miles. On top of that, the US continued to set up its missile defense bases throughout the decades in those countries all the while claiming that the shield was purely a defensive system against “rogue” countries like Iran and North Korea. However, the so-called “missile defense shield” was and is not a defensive system at all. Rather, the US was and is deploying these missiles to target Russia all along in breach of several agreements such as the INF treaty. Russia knew all along what the US was doing but Russia was too weak to do anything about it.
That was the context. My opinion on the current situation is that today’s Russia is not the Russia of the 1990s. Russia will not be intimidated to accept any further NATO expansion eastward, including Ukraine. On the other hand, the US wants to bankrupt Russia through sanctions, military buildup at its borders and isolation. Being the much weaker side, Russia wants to exhaust all options before getting into a war with the US, but if Russia’s red lines are crossed, it will certainly trigger a hot war.
Some say that the cold war never ended, and looking at the way the relationship between Russia and the United States has deteriorated (except during the Trump presidency, of course), I’d say I’ll have to agree.
Thanks for the detailed response. I never looked at it from this angle before and it makes absolute sense, more-so than the half-baked narrative the news media has been regurgitating for the past week, on how Russia does not want Ukraine to join NATO because meri marzi.
Besides what @decentGuy has said, the media in US is diverting attention away from deteriorating approval ratings of Joe. Never forget that every time a US president does bad domestically, international war drums are rolled and hysteria-like situation is created.
I dont see Russia invading Ukraine. Just like i dont see any war escalating in the South China sea between Chinese and US navies.
Never say never with Putin though he most likely will use Ukrainian mercenaries and plain-clothed Russians / Wagner Group to do the dirty work like he did in Syria. US / NATO has the right tools available to give Russia its second Vietnam in Ukraine.
How so? I know Ukr’s politicians are inviting EU and US to make the first move and push mf russia back but i dont see how can they do it?!
Turkey lost a lot of soldiers in Syria but the lethal mix of drones and artillery really did a number on SANA and Wagner Group mercenaries.
Turkey has its own cooperation programs for installing Ukrainian engines in helicopters and drones due to US/Western sanctions but America can supercharge it like how America and Saudis supercharged the Afghan resistance in the eighties.
Russia has officially invaded Ukraine. I am pretty positive that NATO will not get involved as Putin has already threatened with nuclear war if they do.
^ US/Nato dealt Ukraine with a brandnew one here. Boy clearly got duped into believing their false narratives and promises. Just as Pakistan was being forced to when there was a huge cry globally for shelving our nuclear capabilities in return for endless royalties
"Three decades ago, the newly independent country of Ukraine was briefly the third-largest nuclear power in the world.
Thousands of nuclear arms had been left on Ukrainian soil by Moscow after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. But in the years that followed, Ukraine made the decision to completely denuclearize.
In exchange, the U.S., the U.K. and Russia would guarantee Ukraine’s security in a 1994 agreement known as the Budapest Memorandum.
Now, that agreement is front and center again.
Mariana Budjeryn of Harvard University spoke with All Things Considered about the legacy of the Budapest Memorandum and its impact today."
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/21/1082124528/ukraine-russia-putin-invasion?t=1645897106480
NATO (effectively spearheaded by Amreeka) is already involved. They are already encircling Roos from Latvia/Lithuania in the north to Romania in the south. The threat of launching a nuclear attack on Roos via NATO is very real for Putin (by Amreeka whch is thousands of miles away).
It was always going to be like that. The US and NATO can’t just go to war with Russia, a country armed to the teeth with gigaton’s worth of planet ending nuclear capability and a leader that has wet dreams of the former Soviet republic and all its glory.
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NATO (effectively spearheaded by Amreeka) is already involved. They are already encircling Roos from Latvia/Lithuania in the north to Romania in the south. The threat of launching a nuclear attack on Roos via NATO is very real for Putin (by Amreeka whch is thousands of miles away).
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They are trying to provoke Russia into some sort of war of attrition.
I’m enjoying how Yankistan and its lackeys are exposing themselves with their response to Russia. Things that the innocent Yanki minds found too difficult to understand, seem to be making sense overnight now. From appreciating foreign fighters to suicide bombing, there is no hesitancy in taking u-turns.
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Here is Obama's ambassador to Moscow who is currently a professor at Stanford University:
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Wonder why these folks weren't able to understand when the same was said about Yankistan.
“Support or oppose the war”
Meanwhile Russian athletes are getting banned just for being Russian. Nikita Mazepin, who is a Russian Formula 1 racing driver has been banned from taking part in the British GP this year because he is Russian. Whereas, British racing driver Lewis Hamilton (quite possibly the most influential racing driver of his generation) who is famously anti-vax, had been given free passage during the 2020 (peak COVID-19) and 2021 season. Despite having contracted COVID-19 during the Bahrain GP in 2020 and having to skip the entire race weekend.
The onus falls upon the US, and then NATO for igniting the matchstick that continues to burn Ukraine by their nonsense taunts here. There is a saying in Urdu “Kisi ke kandhe pe kamaan rukh ke teer chalana” which fits here
Mustn’t forget Ukraine and Russia mostly speak the same language and have been living together for ages compromising collectively when needed. Not to mention the two were the number one trade partners for a long time. Ukraine joining NATO or not could’ve been an internal issue as long as the west hadn’t poked their noses into feces like they’re so historically accustomed to
In hindsight, Putin has said Russia has “no ill intentions” and wants no more of the sanctions cake being shoved down his throat. Just trying to be sweet whilst being terribly immoral. Some say he has cancer and hence the puffy face
Question is, who gets the credit for bombing down women and children. Tanks stamping on vehicles trying their wee best to exit with their families onboard?
The dump hole of a world he and the US/NATO live in has no sympathy towards the lives already lost
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Here's to hoping @a7mado is okay with reading rivers of text and that his mind is tightened with screws to prevent it from going in a twirling spree.
