I think this bullying stuff is more of an English problem. Decades ago, growing up in London, I experienced it as a school boy too. However, here in the USA it is not as big a problem. Atleast, not according to my son.
regards,
bob
I think this bullying stuff is more of an English problem. Decades ago, growing up in London, I experienced it as a school boy too. However, here in the USA it is not as big a problem. Atleast, not according to my son.
regards,
bob
Yeah, in USA they don't bully, they shoot.
Yeah, in USA they don't bully, they shoot.
lol.
i could never bring my kids up in the US; stay in Europe Farrah.
the tv and news would make my head explode. i would not want my kids exposed to a narrow world view where the USA was at the centre and anything else would get you branded a communist hippy.
also, too much risk of ending up either a fatty or with an eating disorder and being obsessed with branded goods and who's got wearing what and go what.
Like I said, Texans love playing cowboy. However, gun violence in the right schools and neighborhoods is not a big issue. Although, they can be a problem in inner city ghettos.
Like thugs in Europe dont carry guns? Firearms: cheap, easy to get and on a street near you | UK news | The Guardian
regards,
bob
There’s a huge difference; it’s illegal here.
Anyway, we get it. You like where you live. No need to turn it into a competition, it comes down to personal preference.
There's a huge difference; it's illegal here.
Anyway, we get it. You like where you live. No need to turn it into a competition, it comes down to personal preference.
stoppit,
By the way, I have an apartment in Barcelona, Spain too. I like to spend most of my summers with my family on the Costa Brava when the temperatures get hot in Houston. So, it is not like I am suggesting Europe is not a fun place to live. Also, btw, when I travel to Spain for the summer, I usually bring a firearm with me. I go to different gun clubs there and it is all quite legal. So, yes, lets just drop it.
regards,
bob
Re: Best place to live in the UK/USA ..
It's illegal in the** UK*. **The place in the article you linked.*
It's illegal in the** UK*. **The place in the article you linked.*
What is illegal in UK? Do you think that the criminals in the USA get their guns legally? Isnt England a part of the EU? I have plenty of friends who prefer to go to England (rather than Spain like I do in the summers) for their shooting fun. They take their guns with them. They buy their guns from England. I have bought one from there too. My shooting coach is from England. Like I said, Ive lived in London for several years. So, lets just drop it.
regards,
bob
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Illegal to own an handgun since 1997. I know there there are gun clubs here (my dad used to go regularly), people can own some firearms with a license.
Clearly you are a gun enthusiast so you will never agree that the laws in your country make it easier for people to get hold of guns and go trigger happy.
Yet, hand gun violence keeps rising in England: BBC NEWS | UK | Politics | Gun crime soars by 35%
“Gun crime has risen by 35% in a year, new Home Office figures show.
There were 9,974 incidents involving firearms in the 12 months to April 2002 - a rise from 7,362 over the previous year. That represents an average of 27 offences involving firearms every day in England and Wales, with guns fired in nearly a quarter of cases.”
“A June 2000 CBS News report proclaimed Great Britain one of the most violent urban societies in the Western world. Declared Dan Rather: This summer, thousands of Americans will travel to Britain expecting a civilized island free from crime and ugliness. . .** (But now) the U.K. has a crime problem . . . worse than ours.**”
Street crime increased 47% between 1999 and 2000 (John Steele, “Crime on streets of London doubles,” London Daily Telegraph, Feb. 29, 2000.)
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It's a shame really, no real need for guns. It's riddiculous how street thugs from Los Angeles to London can get hold of military spec weapons like the Ingram Mac10, which is to all intents and purposes a fast firing military grade weapon..... surely it's the fault of governments and arms and ordanace suppliers and manufacturers for not having tighter controls.
At the end of the day either just about every hoodlums going to have ever more deadlier weapons or governments will have to go on gun versions of Hideyoshi's sword hunt. Also i blame a lot of the spread of these weapons on poorly equiped and enforced police. Police should be given more advanced weapons too to tackle the more serious criminals head on. This is an international problem, even my homeland Pakistan is full of villians wielding guns without licsenses and without any care for life.
At the end of the day guns are fine as battlefield weapons and for those who genuinely have reason for carying them like hunters etc.... but gangs should be forcibly disarmed. Often times however corruption gets the better of the system here in the Uk you would be suprised how deep this runs, even arms suppliers are active with government permission and knowingly supply violent gangs just for the profit....... Shame.
Wish guns were never invented sometimes........
Dude
I wasn’t talking about the street crimes…I was talking about the gun related crimes in the schools of UK and USA. There are rarely any incident of shooting in schools of UK. See for yourself:School shooting - Wikipedia
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bob - i can't take your post seriously with those 'facts'. in fact i don't even know why i'm bothering to reply.
yes we have a gun crime problem as we have a lot of gangs and gang warfare here now (no doubt as a result of the culture your country exports). Of your 27 instances of 'gun crime' a day, that article doesn't even elucidate how many were for possession because unlike your country where it is ok to keep a gun in the bedside drawer, it's illegal here.
you also haven't said anything about how the figures that compare to the most notorious gun crime cities in the USA. in fact recently there was a journalist on BBC Radio 4 discussing how laughable gun crime was in the UK compared to Baltimore, having spent time with the relevant police departments in both.
somehow, i trust that far more than an opinion by your CBS "news" reporter.
back to Hareem's original point, about kids being shot whilst at school. How about you give us some proper statistics on school shootings per year in the UK compared to the USA?
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^ true UK gun crime is no where near as bad as that in the UK but still no excuse is there really? Gun crime isn't a very nice crime at all....... never mind where it happens.
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POMs or YANKEEs, one kills you with their whining habits and the other with a gun - whats the diffrence? :P
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Whate are POMs? as for Yankees actually Americans are not the most proficient users of guns they are morel likely to use them and in doing so use them wrongly. Trust history the poor fools went over the top with guns and almost killed more of thier own side in battle than anyone else. 
Japan believe it or not has to be the worlds most trigger happy nation becuase they mass produced guns before anybody else. But they were much more smarter about it, or at least for a few centuries until the automatic weapon came along.
Right now Afghanistan and Iraq are the worlds leading ordinance countries when it comes to sheer consumation of bullets… with Somalia and the Yemen not far behind.
Guns and most easy small weapons= end of mans valour.
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poms are 'spineless fish' a term used by aussies to describe brits
btw nearly all uk gun crime involves ''adapted'' airsoft guns
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Yes but you'd be suprised by some of the weapons that have actually been used and have killed people, they have varied from modern military grade Ingram Mac10's to old school revolvers from Smith and Wesson.... the sort used in the old west during the period after the American civil war and the early 20th century.
True most weapons are adapted ones, but the UK has some scarier scenarios where people have actually died becuase of firearms that frankly should not be available to see let alone use. Most of the weapons that have actually killed people were museum peices or Army grade hardware that simply had no reason to be on public markets at all! Thats when the government and Law enforcers seriously got things wrong. Also this rescessiona nd economic decline has resulted in tonnes of "lost hardware" from ordanance factories Millitary stocks and government institutions that have reached the black market..... the way it operates is sickening.
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faris, i dont ever expect to come across firearm stocks going misssing from ordinance factories in the western world. its not something which occurs, and certainly this recession is not bad enough to effect that control. on the battlefield stocks can be lost but not in non fighting conditions
also yemen and somalia are nowhere near the bullet consumption rates of pakistan. pakistan has been conducting military operations for the last 7-9 years. furthermore, there are reports pakistan has supplied bullets for american use certainly in iraq, and maybe doing so for afghanistan.
First of all, you cannot compare stats on a little tiny island with something the size of the USA, a massive country, 1/2 the size of Europe, itself. Furthermore, we were talking about bullying in schools, i.e. children bullying other children. I was saying that there isnt as much of it in the USA as in England. Your point was that children dont bully they shoot each other in the USA. Then, I said gun violence (school kids shooting other kids) is an inner city problem, but not much of a problem in the right schools and in the right neighborhoods in the USA. In other words, it is not an everyday concern for parents. Now you can respond by either showing me how bullying is not an epidemic in England or by showing me that there is an epidemic of American kids killing other American kids with guns in the USA, even in the right schools in the right neighborhoods. Otherwise, we will be going round and round in circles, as we keep changing the subject we are talking about.