U.S. tank aimed at hotel, no outgoing fire-reporter

The news shows the “trigger happy, no respect for innocent human life mentality of the American invaders”. Shame on them.

U.S. tank aimed at hotel, no outgoing fire-reporter](http://uk.news.yahoo.com/030408/80/dx9ik.html)

(updates with U.S. general confirming tank fired)
LONDON, April 8 (Reuters) - A British reporter based at a
Baghdad hotel where five journalists were wounded in a blast on
Tuesday said he saw a U.S. tank aiming at the building before
the explosion but heard no outgoing fire.
A U.S. general later confirmed that a U.S. tank had fired a
single round at the Palestine Hotel, where most foreign media in
the Iraqi capital were based, adding that it was in response to
rifle and rocket fire from the building.
** Sky Correspondent David Chater, who said he was on a hotel
balcony directly before the explosion, said the U.S. troops must
have known the hotel was the base for foreign journalists.
“I never heard a single shot coming from any of the area
around here, certainly not from the hotel,” he said.**

Chater said he saw a U.S. tank pointing its gun muzzle

directly at the hotel and turned away just before the blast.

"I noticed one of the tanks had its barrel pointed up at the

building. We went inside…and there was an almighty crash, a
huge explosion that shook the hotel," he said in an on-air
report, adding that he did not actually see the tank fire.

A Reuters reporter, photographer, television cameraman and

television technician were taken to hospital after the blast.

The extent of their injuries was not immediately clear.

Spanish television channel Telecino said one of its

cameramen was also wounded in the blast.

"They must have seen us, they have seen us, we've seen

them…there was absolutely no mistake, they knew we were
there," Chater said.

"That tank shell, if it was indeed an American tank shell,

was aimed directly at this hotel and directly at journalists.

This wasn’t an accident, it seems to be a very accurate shot."

U.S. General Buford Blount, commander of the Third Infantry

Division, told Reuters near Baghdad the tank fired one round at
the hotel after receiving small arms and rocket-propelled
grenade fire from the building.

** An emotional Chater described the scene after the blast as
awful with people screaming and calling for a doctor.

"Standing here right now, I'm in direct line of sight of

that barrel of that tank, if it lobs another shell it could land
here," he said.
“It makes you realise how vulnerable you are.”**

This is a real scandal and even al jazeera ppl were targeted on purpose and this is what german media is reporting here who is there.
This is not just to keep the mouths shut at least of those who had some rights in IRAQ!
Those who stand for liberation didnt even appear at this thread.
Very strange indeed!

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*Originally posted by Ali_R: *
This is a real scandal and even al jazeera ppl were targeted on purpose and this is what german media is reporting here who is there.
This is not just to keep the mouths shut at least of those who had some rights in IRAQ!
Those who stand for liberation didnt even appear at this thread.
Very strange indeed!
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May be waiting for Bush/Franks' clarification of the issue.

You guys are too funny. If Al Jazeera people were targeted on purpose then there would not be any Al Jazeera people left to report it. You must also believe that the US targeted the Reuters journalist, the Spanish one, and all the US and UK troops who were killed by friendly fire incidents.

It is really getting to be an old and tired refrain to hear you attribute 100% perfection to our weaponry during war when some innocent gets killed but, as to everything else, America and Americans are imperfect and faulty. Some of you really ought to put in your resume for internships at the Iraqi Information Ministry. But .... you better hurry. Your particular skills at disingenuousness won't be needed for very much longer.

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *
You guys are too funny. If Al Jazeera people were targeted on purpose then there would not be any Al Jazeera people left to report it. You must also believe that the US targeted the Reuters journalist, the Spanish one, and all the US and UK troops who were killed by friendly fire incidents.

It is really getting to be an old and tired refrain to hear you attribute 100% perfection to our weaponry during war when some innocent gets killed but, as to everything else, America and Americans are imperfect and faulty. Some of you really ought to put in your resume for internships at the Iraqi Information Ministry. But .... you better hurry. Your particular skills at disingenuousness won't be needed for very much longer.
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The BBC reporter at the scene said quite clearly that the American forces were lying about the fire coming from the Palestine hotel and even the BBC reporter at Qatar is now saying that the central command is lying.

Why don't you accept that your soldiers are trigger happy who have no regard for anyone's life. Maybe I should join the cowboy army. At least they will teach me to shoot first and ask questions later and lie through my teeth.

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*Originally posted by chosen1: *
The BBC reporter at the scene said quite clearly that the American forces were lying about the fire coming from the Palestine hotel and even the BBC reporter at Qatar is now saying that the central command is lying.

Why don't you accept that your soldiers are trigger happy who have no regard for anyone's life. Maybe I should join the cowboy army. At least they will teach me to shoot first and ask questions later and lie through my teeth.
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You need to brush up on your reading skills or on your English language translations. The BBC Reporter said he did not hear a shot. That doesn't mean that shots weren't fired does it?

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *

You need to brush up on your reading skills or on your English language translations. The BBC Reporter said he did not hear a shot. That doesn't mean that shots weren't fired does it?
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Well I must admit i dont have much knowledge of American but I can understand English very well. Now let me say it in plain english what the reporter said on BBC TV. He clearly said that no one was firing from the Palestine hotel.

If you dont udnerstand any of the above try looking up in oxford dictionary, failing that join a nursery school.

^

Didn’t you know , reporters use silencers on the end of their microphones…:2guns:

The common excuse for the coalition terrorists is that there were reports of shots being fired. These trigger happy terrorists would bomb a populated pre-school in Iraq without any type of investigation first.

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*Originally posted by Fret Wizard: *
The common excuse for the coalition terrorists is that there were reports of shots being fired. These trigger happy terrorists would bomb a populated pre-school in Iraq without any type of investigation first.
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Since the only things in the Iraqi pre-schools nowadays seems to be weapons and Iraqi paramilitary goons, I see nothing wrong with that.

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *

Since the only things in the Iraqi pre-schools nowadays seems to be weapons and Iraqi paramilitary goons, I see nothing wrong with that.
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...and where did you hear that.. fox news or sky or cnn, whose reporters seem to be so conveiniently unharmed throughout all this....

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*Originally posted by MASTER T: *
...and where did you hear that.. fox news or sky or cnn, whose reporters seem to be so conveiniently unharmed throughout all this....
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I watched the live video. Don't tell me you're still listening to the Iraqi Information Minister.

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *

I watched the live video. Don't tell me you're still listening to the Iraqi Information Minister.
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yeah the live feed that's coming out of Bushes backside... 'the iraqi information minister?'.. i stopped listening to that puppet of a puppet regime a long time ago.. but then again you know that.. you've got the live feed..

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *
Since the only things in the Iraqi pre-schools nowadays seems to be weapons and Iraqi paramilitary goons, I see nothing wrong with that.
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So basically you're saying it wouldn't be wrong of the coalition murderers to bomb a pre-school without any type of investigation beforehand, just because they may think that it's occupied by paramilitary? Very brilliant, and typical of the coalition terrorist mentality.

:-)
and they call themselves civilized people

Hey Fret. Tell me. How many Iraqi families do you think are sending their children to pre-school today? If they were doing so, I bet the little tykes would be climbing over guns in the flatbed of a toyota pickup instead of using a jungle gym.

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *
Hey Fret. Tell me. How many Iraqi families do you think are sending their children to pre-school today? If they were doing so, I bet the little tykes would be climbing over guns in the flatbed of a toyota pickup instead of using a jungle gym.
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Thank you for confirming yet again, the typical coalition mentatlity. "Oh, I doubt anyone would be going to school today, so launch that missile Billy Bob, I think I might have heard a rock drop closeby" .It wouldn't matter to the coalition murderers anyway how many kids are going to school, it's quite obvious Iraqi civilian life means absolutely squat to them.

I don't believe that the hotel was bombed on purpose. That very well could have been, and seems to be misjudgement on the part of the Tank driver. But I am very suspicious of the attack on al-jazeera. That would make two American wars where al-jazeera was attacked. That one I do not beleive was an accident.

added note: You people need to quit your childish bickering. It is stupid.

America and it’s Free Speech

**The US bombs Al Jazeera and Abu Dhabi offices in Baghdad. Why? Al Jazeera and Abu Dhabi have taken a very strong opposition to the US’s war. Perhaps they wanted to shut em up. Makes you thing - why? Was their reporting showing the true face of the war? Were their connections harming the coalitions image back home?

Tareq Ayub of Al Jazeera was known for asking controversial questions at Cen Com briefings. He was killed in the bombings.
**
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/04/09/MNhotel.TMP


So let's realize what is happening here...

There is a freakin' war going on here and the journalists think this is a ballgame and they have the bleacher seats, and those tanks are just ball players and the worst that can happen is that they get hit with a foul ball.

In a tank, it is loud and noisy. The thing is buttoned up tight, and they are looking through periscopes to see everything. A bunch of photographers are hanging off the balcony with long lenses and the light is glinting off of them and to the 20 year old kid in the tank it looks like the report of a rifle or worse. Let us not forget that a number of high ranking Iraqi officials have holed up in this same hotel using the journalists as quasi-human shields, and that bad guys are hanging off other buildings shooting.

It is a crying shame that journalists were killed, but, what are they thinking? I think the 20 year old kid in the tank should have thought twice, but the expectation that a WAR should be this hyper-controlled meticulous endeavor where the US has it's every move replayed on videotape and debated by every armchair critic, while Saddam's henchmen can engage in anything they please is just bizzare.

Here is a clue. When war comes, run away. Stay away from people with weapons, or anyplace that there are weapons. The journalists hanging off balconies have forgotten that war is inherently a chaotic violent affair. It is not a spectator sport, it is lethal, and it is for keeps. The 20 year old kid in the tank is paid to kill bad people and keep his butt alive. He is a human being and he can and will make mistakes. It's not his fault, he is doing his best under difficult circumstances. Blame the politicians, blame the UN, but don't expect the impossible.