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^Who do you think they are? Think sharp :)
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Tired and weary of war masses voting for McCain's is a surprise, who will lead them into yet another war, which will likely require a military draft. That's exactly what you would expect from a man endorsed by Jew-liani and Terminator.
And Obama can't seem to stop talking about military strikes against Pakistan.
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^Yea he will bomb Pakistan...
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^
In a recent poll only 9% of Pakistanis support working with the U.S. on it's 'war on terror' but close to 75% said Islamic extremism is a problem. It seems Pakistanis would rather make a deal with the extremist and let them have the tribal areas and pretend the problem is solved than actually confront the issue and this this is simply not doable. Honestly what do you expect? Pakistan's internal issues effect the world. That said, Pakistanis might be more anti-Bush and his policies than anti-U.S. so relations could warm between the U.S. and the Pakistan street after elections are done and Bush is removed. Anyway, this thread is about the U.S.Primaries not what the future relations U.S. will have with Pakistan.
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^ In a recent poll only 9% of Pakistanis support working with the U.S. on it's 'war on terror' but close to 75% said Islamic extremism is a problem.
That's because they know that the US and Islamic extremists are merely two sides of the same coin.
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^ In a recent poll only 9% of Pakistanis support working with the U.S. on it's 'war on terror' but close to 75% said Islamic extremism is a problem. It seems Pakistanis would rather make a deal with the extremist and let them have the tribal areas and pretend the problem is solved than actually confront the issue and this this is simply not doable. Honestly what do you expect? Pakistan's internal issues effect the world. That said, Pakistanis might be more anti-Bush and his policies than anti-U.S. so relations could warm between the U.S. and the Pakistan street after elections are done and Bush is removed. Anyway, this thread is about the U.S.Primaries not what the future relations U.S. will have with Pakistan.
Im totally confused. I posted something about Obamas assassination and you come up with that post. Is there any link to my post above? Besides some hypothetical arguments regarding Obama and Its avoidable friendship with Pakistan?
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It was in response to 'yea he will bomb Pakistan'
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Watching yesterday’s debate, seemed like both candidates presented their respective positions well, and no one scored any kind of knock out punch. Clinton is clearly struggling at this time with all the consecutive victories by Obama. Now it seems a lot of people heard her closing remarks yesterday and take it as her “throwing in the towel” speech.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/22/what-was-clinton-saying-caucus-readers-weigh-in/
What do you think?
Will it finally be a McCain vs Obama fight in November?
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To early, we're still 11 days out before Texas and Ohio which can change the balance of the race. Could a bombshell story break before then, a Feburary/March surprise per se?
It'll be interesting to see how the story about McCain and his questionable relationship with lobbyists effects him.
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I hope It ends up in Mccain vs. Obama...But I have my doubts If OBAMA comes through he might be not first choice for the Americans. But then who needs republican Hillary?
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US Candidates still clueless about terrorism, more than 6 years after 9/11:
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So now McCain is treating Obama as the presumptive Democratic nominee? Whats with all this fuss about which came first: chicken or egg.
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Clinton is back!?!
She wins Rhode Island to give the first indication that Obama mania is officially over. February madness is gone.
Then she wins big and decisively in Ohio. And she got her voters back, whites, Latinos and blue-collar. Almost all the late deciding voters broke towards Clinton, which is amazing.
Texas is neck and neck.
Thing is the entire Obama Momentum is gone. Clinton campaign has turned the entire discussion to Obama and his problems. Amazing. Incredible.
The math still works for Obama, but this battle is not getting over tonight in Texas or Ohio. Bring on Pennsylvania. April 22nd.
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^^ doesnt matter
Obama still has more delegates
and Obama is leading in the rest of the states, in Pennslyvania and Wisconsin where the next big primaries are
Clinton had to win both these states with double digit margins to get enough candidates to challenge Obama
the fact that she won with razor thin margins, shows that Obama still has a commanding lead
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Hillary won but not by much and overall it appears she will roughly cut into Obamas lead by 10 delegates. Rumors that super delegates and endorsements will be coming Obamas way in order to try and convince Hillary to come in, cut a deal, and drop out in order to stop the madness. Who knows. No KO, but a TKO seems to be looming.
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Analysts keep talking about momentum. While after yesterday, its pretty clear where the momentum is going. And its not Obama. Delegate math is very very close, so likely someone has to step in and resolve this issue. Otherwise this will go till the 3rd day of the convention. My guess is that Florida and Michigan will have a re-do too.
Anyway, here is one other interesting bit. May be the “dream ticket” is not such a prepostrous possibility. Of course, Obama won’t comment on it right now, because a “dream ticket” essentially means that Obama waits for 8 years (or 4 years, if McCain wins).
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/clinton-this-may-be-headed-to-joint-ticket/
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Hilary won Ohio, a very good indicator of nationwide demographics, by double digits. No, the delegate counts didn't change much, but winning TX and OH is more than enough reason (in her eyes) to stay in the race. There is no way she is going to get out before the convention. She is hoping his teflon will wear off between now and then.
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Dean is not going to allow the super delegates to decide the outcome of this race. Hillary would need an upset of the kind we haven't seen to overtake Obama in the delegate count. Assuming that does not happen if the delegates were to decide and to go Hillary’s way despite her trailing in the count the consequences of such a move would be to great unless it had Obama's blessing. At this point the VP slot is open for Obama but that's not his goal and I see no reason for him to accept it.
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Would this not be a better solution?
The British Are Coming to help with election 2008 USA
Message from John Cleese
To the citizens of the United States of America :
In light of your failure in recent years to nominate competent candidates for President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately.
Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and territories (except Kansas, which she does not fancy).
Your new Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, will appoint a Governor for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.
To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:
1) You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary.
2) Then look up "aluminium" and check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it.
3) The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour', 'favour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix '-ize' will be replaced by the suffix '-ise'. A "curb" will rightly be spelled "kerb," -- and no more "Exit" signs; they will say "Way Out." Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. (look up "vocabulary").
4) Consistantly using the same 27 words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. There is no such thing as U.S. English. We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of -ize.
5) July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday.
6) You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.
7) Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. A permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.
8) All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will immediately begin driving on the left side of the street. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.
9) The Former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling gasoline) -- roughly $6/US gallon. Get used to it.
10) You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with catsup but with vinegar.
11) The cold, tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer, and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. South African beer is also acceptable as they are pound-for-pound the greatest sporting Nation on earth, and it can only be due to the beer. They are also part of the British Commonwealth -- see what it did for them. American brands will be referred to as Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine, so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.
12) Hollywood will be required to occasionally cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie MacDowell attempt English dialogue in Four Weddings and a Funeral was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater.
13) You will cease playing American football. There is only one kind of proper football -- you call it "soccer." Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American football, but does not involve stopping for a rest every 20 seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies). Don't try Rugby now -- the South Africans and Kiwis will thrash you, like they regularly thrash us.
14) Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the World Series for a game that is not played outside of America. Since only 2.1% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. You will learn cricket, and we will let you face the South Africans first to take the sting out of their deliveries.
15) You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad.
16) An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all moneys due (backdated to 1776).
17) Daily Tea Time begins promptly at 4 p.m. with proper cups and saucers (never with mugs), with high-quality biscuits (cookies) and cakes, and with strawberries and cream when in season.
God Save the Queen!
Re: U.S. Presidential Primary Watch 2008
Would this not be a better solution?
The British Are Coming to help with election 2008 USA
Message from John Cleese To the citizens of the United States of America :
In light of your failure in recent years to nominate competent candidates for President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately.
Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and territories (except Kansas, which she does not fancy).
Your new Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, will appoint a Governor for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.
To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:
1) You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary.
2) Then look up "aluminium" and check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it.
3) The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour', 'favour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix '-ize' will be replaced by the suffix '-ise'. A "curb" will rightly be spelled "kerb," -- and no more "Exit" signs; they will say "Way Out." Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. (look up "vocabulary").
4) Consistantly using the same 27 words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. There is no such thing as U.S. English. We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of -ize.
5) July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday.
6) You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.
7) Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. A permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.
8) All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will immediately begin driving on the left side of the street. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.
9) The Former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling gasoline) -- roughly $6/US gallon. Get used to it.
10) You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with catsup but with vinegar.
11) The cold, tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer, and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. South African beer is also acceptable as they are pound-for-pound the greatest sporting Nation on earth, and it can only be due to the beer. They are also part of the British Commonwealth -- see what it did for them. American brands will be referred to as Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine, so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.
12) Hollywood will be required to occasionally cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie MacDowell attempt English dialogue in Four Weddings and a Funeral was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater.
13) You will cease playing American football. There is only one kind of proper football -- you call it "soccer." Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American football, but does not involve stopping for a rest every 20 seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies). Don't try Rugby now -- the South Africans and Kiwis will thrash you, like they regularly thrash us.
14) Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the World Series for a game that is not played outside of America. Since only 2.1% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. You will learn cricket, and we will let you face the South Africans first to take the sting out of their deliveries.
15) You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad.
16) An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all moneys due (backdated to 1776).
17) Daily Tea Time begins promptly at 4 p.m. with proper cups and saucers (never with mugs), with high-quality biscuits (cookies) and cakes, and with strawberries and cream when in season.
God Save the Queen!
Good