MV how do you know that they were used as a shield, acording to the terrorists who attacked Falujjah 90% of the civilians had left before they started their murderous campaign there, so which shields are you talking about. The only civilians killed were by the barbarians from their gunships and the b52's and thier tanks and in order to not let the world know what they were doing they closed the hospital. According to the terrorists spokesman Allawi, no civilians were killed. How can you deny what your own agent is saying. Either he is lying or you have got the wrong end of the stick. Which one is it?
where do you get all this information from? Do you get insiders info that we dont get?
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Death, destruction and despair is viewed by these a-holes as a defeat of the US and therefore a victory for them. Dead Iraqis is their agenda, not ours.
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Rich coming from those whose terrorists killed over 100,000 in Iraq.
Mawarid:
I think what Allawi’s spokesman said was that no civilians were killed by the US and Iraqi forces who routed the vermin. He did not say that no civilians were killed by the vermin. To the contrary, pictures of Iraqi civilians executed with bullets to the head by the vermin were available for all to see. (Except, of course, those watching Al Jazeera and other pro-terrorist news outlets. Maybe that’s why you missed this item.)
Now, frankly, I would find it hard to believe that no innocents were killed by US bombs or bullets in Fallujah, regardless of what Allawi’s spokesman said. That sounds an awful lot like the wishful news reporting of Comical Ali as the tanks were rolling into Baghdad.
Ma writes: “where do you get all this information from? Do you get insiders info that we dont get?”
Perhaps you should broaden your horizons and stop relying exclusively on Al Jazeera for your news. In all seriousness, I think you do get the same information that I get; however, you refuse to believe that it can possibly be true that Muslims will kill other Muslims in such heinous ways. Somehow, you seem to have persuaded yourself that the terrorist slugs love ALL of their Muslim brothers and sisters the same way you do.
One of many child victims of the US attack on fallujah. Even Iraqis who had been evacuated from Fallujah were targetted by US marines. :disgust:
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*The families of these children were staying with relatives in the villages of Saqlawiya and Azraqiya, just outside Fallujah, when they were wounded by air and artillery bombardments. *
Wounded children pay the price of Iraq’s Fallujah offensive](Stuff) Reuters 17 Nov 04 (Stuff News)
BAGHDAD: Alaa Barham slumps in his hospital bed and stares blankly into the air in front of him. Twelve years old and still deeply in shock, he can barely speak. Alaa’s family had fled the Iraqi city of Fallujah before last Monday’s all-out offensive began. He was happily playing with his brother in the garden of their uncle’s house in a village outside the city. Then the rocket hit. "My uncle died. They took us to hospital," he mumbles, speaking in little more than a whisper.
His brother lies face down on the bed next to him, a bandage round his leg, a tube feeding into his stomach. Their mother sits on another bed, cradling her now fatherless two-year-old nephew. Across the room, another two-year-old lies on a bed in a nappy, a blanket covering one tiny leg. The other one was blown off by a shell.
Hey, any pics from the over 2 million who have died through rape, torture, murder and war-induced hunger and disease in the Sudan? At least this little Arab boy has linens and clothes. Surely there are some photos of some of the poor black children who are used as sex slaves and warrirors. 
There you go diverting the thread again. If you don’t have anything to contribute, as is apparent by your broken record like rantings about Sudan then please let your intellectual superiors continue the discussion.
A list of things I have never seen around here:
A picture of the grieving widow of a murdered Iraqi policeman. Somehow there is disbelief that these thousands of well meaning, average Iraqis are also patriots.
A picture of a child wounded by a car bomb in Iraq.
A picture of a wailing woman sliced up by a bomb in a market place.
Limbless children injured by errant motars misfired by insurgents.
Somehow the propaganda assumes that these victims don't count, do not have the patriotic best interest of their country in mind, or simply don't fit an anti-American agenda. More invisible Muslim on Muslim violence.
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There you go diverting the thread again. If you don't have anything to contribute, as is apparent by your broken record like rantings about Sudan then please let your intellectual superiors continue the discussion.
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You mean diverting the thread by posting propaganda pictures of wounded children that have nothing to do with this terrorist that was killed? BTW, there are no broken records about Sudan here, the millions suffering there are ignored because the victims are black or the killers are Muslim, not sure why. Also please let me know when the intellectual superiors join the conversation, it should be interesting reading.
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You mean diverting the thread by posting propaganda pictures of wounded children that have nothing to do with this terrorist that was killed? BTW, there are no broken records about Sudan here, the millions suffering there are ignored because the victims are black or the killers are Muslim, not sure why. Also please let me know when the intellectual superiors join the conversation, it should be interesting reading.
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There is a thread open for that discussion, so make your comments there. This is a poor attempt to divert attention from the excesses of your own army.
OG: why're you waiting for some else to do it, use your own initiative.
All the points and excuses made by OG and his cohorts have been CLEARLY proven wrong, with facts via credible news sources I have provided.
Unless of course, you refuse to acknowledge the existence of media outside of spoon fed stuff that spews out of Fox News etc. If that's the case, then please continue your reverie.
Ma,
Frankly, it would not make a difference. And, one of the most common forms of propaganda used around here is the "picture tells one thousand words" falacy. If you post a picture of a wounded child here, the Gupshup pavolvian response is to ASSUME that the injury must have been caused by the US, no other explaination is possible.
Despite the conspiratorial mind of the average Guppy, they are all brainwashed to believe that ANY injured child must be from a US bomb or gun. If this seems improbable, then they will remove the responsibility one degree, and say that the bomb was given to someone by the US. If that does not work they will say that it must be a second degree of separation caused the injury, ie, the US financed the bomb.
If that does not work a third degree of separation is invoked, saying that the faction that launched the bomb was supported by the US. As a last resort they can alway claim the the US shook hands with someone, or gave "tacit approval" for the bomb.
They seem to be amazingly oblivious of the fact that Muslims shipped, loaded, delivered, appoved, financed, stored, targeted, launched or guided the bomb, the US provides the universal alibi. Sort of a modern day "the devil made me do it".
So even though photos of injured children could be posted, hundreds injured and killed by bloodthirsty insurgents, denialbility has been preplanned with pat answers to reliquish any need to look in the mirror and say "Damn, Muslims kill a lot of their own people!"
Given this predictable outcome, I'll do something more fun.....
so are you saying no US bombs have killed a child in the fallujah operation? every child killed was killed by another iraqi? would you say bombs have a bigger chance of killing kids or shot guns?
I am saying that absolutely every Muslim child injured worldwide by an explosion in any way is blamed on the US. And that miraculously no Muslim is ever responsible for thier own actions...
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There is a thread open for that discussion, so make your comments there. This is a poor attempt to divert attention from the excesses of your own army.
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Does that mean that the posted picture of the wounded boy was not a poor attempt at diversion or is it just plain bias that dictates which diversions you are compelled to single out?
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I am saying that absolutely every Muslim child injured worldwide by an explosion in any way is blamed on the US
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Worldwide??? OG uncle, I think you're outdoing yourself here. I think the blood of Afghan and Iraqi children are quite enough.
OG: That is an exaggeration. but muslims feel americans also get all defensive even if its quite obvious who the perpetrator is. This thread is just one of the many examples as to how far they will go to defend their marines, to the point its becomes nonsensical.
Seminole: You seem to have trouble with basic geography. Sudan is in africa u pillock. Theres a thread opened for that already.
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Seminole: You seem to have trouble with basic geography. Sudan is in africa u pillock. Theres a thread opened for that already.
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Great, then let's post pictures of poor little injured Iraqi boys in one of the many threads dedicated to the US massacre of Iraqi civilians. Why is everyone's admonishment of off topic posts so selective? Since you like to point out everyone's bias, it doesn't do much for your objectivity to only point out diversions that don't follow your agenda.
"I think the blood of Afghan"
Now, I believe that the Afghans blew themselves up for the better part of 20 years without a single white man in the country. Funny how fast this stuff gets forgotten. But the first thing you remember is three weeks of combat with the US when far more brutal and innacurate shelling took place for decades.
Bias? Nawww