^^ well now public opinion has finally turned against the Taliban...so they can openly acknowledge it
Two words, Fox News!
A drone flying at 30,000 feet can spot a Talib on ground.
Hallelujah Mr 2k, hallelujah.
So far more than 100 drone attacks have killed 750 civilians and 10 alleged Taliban, with that success rate Lord of the Gun will achieve what it has planned.......Indeed
Drone's don't spot anyone, they are programmed to deliver a missile for a particular x,y coordinate.
^^ total nonsense
each time a drone attacks....all these taliban converges on the scene to remove the dead bodies of their comrades
so what if Taliban converge AFTER a drone attack, is there a "follow up" attack to kill the converging Taliban? I don't believe that is true.
the drones are a spectacular success
where are the relatives of the innocent people complaining about these attacks?
Why do we always have to wait for "relatives" to be complaining? Anyway, read posts above where relatives are complaining.
^^ that was an attack in 2006 which barely missed Zawahiri....
Is that the best you can come up with?
How does a missile "barely" miss anyone? Was Zawahiri a flying target?
ANP determined to crush Taliban: Bilour
Re: U.S. and Pakistan are Jointly Carrying Out Drone attacks
Drone attacks are very successful, as even taliban have stated themselves. This report alone says at least 29 talib friends of this one guy have been killed. The 700 figure includes majority of taliban dead, but not Al-Q dead.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/05/world/asia/05fighter.html
The one thing that impressed him were the missile strikes by drones — virtually the only American military presence felt inside Pakistan. “The drones are very effective,” he said, acknowledging that they had thinned the top leadership of Al Qaeda and the Taliban in the area. He said 29 of his friends had been killed in the strikes.
Re: U.S. and Pakistan are Jointly Carrying Out Drone attacks
*MQM Founder & Leader Mr Altaf Hussain has appealed to the US President Barack Obama to stop drone attacks in Pakistan and respect its sovereignty. *
Tehreek-e-Insaaf Founder & Only Leader Imran khan has appealed to the UK Prime Minister Gordon brown to take action against Altaf Hussain.
Imran Khan didn't appeal to GB against AH after he wrote that letter, IK has been complaining, filing cases against AH for long... don't try to show it as blackmail or something.
Is a drone killing some 2 year old okay with you? Bloody hell, that girl/woman BOUNCED back up after her so-called lashing, and you have the audacity to compare that with the death (DEATH) of innocent civilians? Call me what you will, but you’ll spare me any half thought moral comparisons.
The Taliban are sick, as you put it, because of the way they engage in wanton killings. IF the Pakistani military, and any of their supporters, support the killing of civilians as a consequence of the killing of a dozen or so Taliban then they are in fact no better…and no amount of flogging videos is going to change that fact.
How can you say that majority of 700 were Taliban? Any source?
That is his account, what about a civilian point of view? He’d say majority of people died in drone attacks were innocent, would you buy that too? Or is it because this one supports your view?
Two words, Fox News!
sorry buddy
i made this aware to hanibal and now i will make it aware to you
I dont have cable and thus I dont watch fox news
so try another angle :)
as long as you acknowledge that 
so what if Taliban converge AFTER a drone attack, is there a "follow up" attack to kill the converging Taliban? I don't believe that is true.
Why would the taliban bother removing dead bodies of innocent civilians?
Dont tell me you beleive that they are that sympathetic
As for the follow up attack, USA can follow the taliban who come to collect the dead bodies and gather more intelligence on their next target
Why do we always have to wait for "relatives" to be complaining? Anyway, read posts above where relatives are complaining.
Because that will show the legitimacy to the claim that innocents are being targetted. Like the nonsense that was repeated after lal masjid when these islamic parties were saying that thousands were killed and the media could barely find any relative of the people killed as the moronic islamic parties were saying.
How does a missile "barely" miss anyone? Was Zawahiri a flying target?
no, there was intelligence that he was already in the house....USA took a gamble and barely missed killing him as he decided to come a little later .....
but that just further confirms that al qaeda are hiding out in Pakistan
Is a drone killing some 2 year old okay with you? Bloody hell, that girl/woman BOUNCED back up after her so-called lashing, and you have the audacity to compare that with the death (DEATH) of innocent civilians? You're insane. A crack pot. Half-baked. Call me what you will, but you'll spare me any half thought moral comparisons.
The Taliban are sick, as you put it, because of the way they engage in wanton killings. IF the Pakistani military, and any of their supporters, support the killing of civilians as a consequence of the killing of a dozen or so Taliban then they are in fact no better...and no amount of flogging videos is going to change that fact.
I can post many videos of actual taliban atrocities that I consider worse then any drone attack, as it requires a certain kind of psychopath to behead and suicide innocent people.
How can you say that majority of 700 were Taliban? Any source?
That is his account, what about a civilian point of view? He'd say majority of people died in drone attacks were innocent, would you buy that too? Or is it because this one supports your view?
The thing is that a taliban guy admitted at least 29 talibs were killed. So, this already calls into question that 700 civilians have been killed.
I can post many videos of actual taliban atrocities that I consider worse then any drone attack, as it requires a certain kind of psychopath to behead and suicide innocent people.
Done from afar, or from up close, you are merely making excuses.
I think it's more disturbing that a person can kill a village, in essence, and go home to his wife and kids, and enjoy dinner in front of the TV.
The thing is that a taliban guy admitted at least 29 talibs were killed. So, this already calls into question that 700 civilians have been killed.
No it doesn't. It simpy shows this person doesn't give a rats arse about civilians...just like most people who support the Pakistani/American drone attacks.
No it doesn't. It simpy shows this person doesn't give a rats arse about civilians...just like most people who support the Pakistani/American drone attacks.
please provide me a list of civilians that have been killed in drone attacks or videos of their grieving relatives
give me proof that 700 innocent people have been killed :)
Nobody’s killing a village, they are using intel to try to take out terrorist leaders. Their effectiveness can be debated upon, but the intention between taliban deliberately killing innocents to spread terror vs. taking out terror leaders to stop terror cannot be compared.
Taliban terror tactics as per talib video:
Did you check the article you posted? Read the line below the title of the news 
Doesn’t make any sense, how sure are you that the people who were removing dead bodies are Taliban and not innocent civilians?
Do you have any news which shows a “follow-up” attack on the same area or are you just saying for the heck of it?
Then you need to read post by Croquet.
Few things: who died in that attack? how accurate is the info that he actually visited the house after it got bombed? may be he paid visit to the affected family as a result of the bombing.
May be those 29 are already counted as militants, the civilians killed are told to be around 750.
On the contrary, provide me with evidence that the ONLY people who have been killed by drones have been militants.
Now, ifyou suggest there isn’t a single case to the contrary, you’re delusional and clearly arent’ following the situation.
It’s clearly a problem, and there is a trickle of evidence (as no one really cares) that this is causing resentment and is in fact counter productive:
Nobody's killing a village, they are using intel to try to take out terrorist leaders.
This remains to be seen. And it is not terrorist leaders only...the war is from the common armed foot soldier to even tribesman who are even remotely thought to be connected to the miltancy. This is a major bone of contention between Pakistan and America right now, and if you follows today's news you will see that Pakistan has almost managed to secure the right to have a say as to what targets ought to be selected for the strikes.
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Of course they can. In both cases, there is an ideological and political goal, and if civilians die so be it. In both cases, the only real intent is to acheive political/military victory. The civilian gets the shaft. Always.