Two-Nation Theory v Most Favoured Nation (MFN) Status

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On the contrary its quite the opposite, B-Desh is living proof of it.
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Exactly!!!

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The first video is a crap and shows the lack of knowledge and respect towards others religion. period.

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How, ignoring your third class personal attacks? Are'nt more Muslims live in India than in Pakistan? If answer is yes where is so called fraud 'do nazria' stands?

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First of all, I am pretty sure Pakistan and indian muslim population is pretty even or even in pakistan's favor if you look at the numbers. Secondly, did Bangladesh disappear into thin air that it is not counted in south asian muslims that live outside of today's india? wHO is being third class now? :D

PS Please stick to what you do best i.e. worship the bhutto clan and and write columns about the dirty dirty dirtiest politician aka CM of lahore of the world.

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Well said Yusuf. The original reason articulated in the clip sounds flimsy. India even today (more so at the time of independence) is a salad bowl. Every region has their own style of dressing and have completely different food etc., Even within a same region, people of different origin dressed and eat differently. That's no reason, especially rest of the India that did not separate had almost half number of Muslims in the separated territory. In fact, Muslim influence in India would have been much greater had it been a unified India, which to many of my main stream India friends a blessing in disguise.

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I really do not understand how giving a country MFN would nullify the two nation theory. I feel it is acceptance from both sides that though we are different we can work together for common good.

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Two-nation theory is not a scientific theory which can be proved or disproved. Its a political theory and all political theories have their supporters and opponents. I am a Pakistani from Peshawar and even as the opponent of two-nation theory, I don't see how MFN has anything to do with it? Two nation theory = muslim and hindus are two different nations and they need separate states where they are masters of their own affairs. MFN = have more trade (and perhaps on easier terms) with India. So what?

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Right....you been watching too much Bollywood. Or did you forget Kashmir?

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More Muslims in India does not have to do with 'success/failure' of do-qaumi nazaria. Huge population of Muslims were not able to migrate, not everybody was that lucky. When the millions were killed at border that also stopped migration to an extent. Go and check about residential apartments/communities declining 'Muslim' from getting a residence in India, should I count that as 'success' of 'do-qaumi' nazaria?

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Interestingly, two nation theory was proposed by Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, a hindu right winger, Quaid being a lawyer worded it fantastically and drew crowd in favour. India’s problem was more about pakistan than about two nation theory, Half of the pakistanis call themselves Bangladeshis, its not a mean achievement by any standard.

Neither did we:)

Why huge population coundn’t migrate, even Biharis migrated to East Pakistan, almost entire population of Sikhs and Hindus could migrate, what was the problem with muslims:confused:.

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You need to get your history lessons retaken and corrected. The two-nation theory was presented by Sir Syed Ahmed Khan the very first time. And no, Quaid did not use that theory the second time. It was well supported by Allama Iqbal and because of Iqbal and Quaid's experience with All India Congress, he was fully convinced that the theory holds water.

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In original agreement there should have been no migration. People living in each part should have remained where they were living. Therefore question of huge population's migration does not arise. You are wrong regarding stopping of migration, people came from India till seventies when Bangladesh became reality after that the inflow of traffic was declined.

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You have to go back to 1940s to learn that.

When and who wrote that agreement? Muslims all over India supported separate state so why would they not go to state which they supported? People kept coming to Pakistan till late 60s, yes, does that mean everyone was able to afford to migrate? No. Does that mean everybody was ready to move? No. Does that mean everybody wanted to move? No. Does that mean Muslims were harassed in different part of India with same intensity as in 1947? No.

Anymore questions?

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This is factually not correct most of the migration took place from the areas which were divided like Punjab and Bengal. The proportion of Muslims in undivided punjab before partition was around 60% and even now if you see the population of Pakistani Punjab is about 60 % of the current undivided Punjab. The difference is that there are no Hindus and Sikhs on our side and no Muslims on your side.

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:D dil khush ho gaya yeh jan kar mubarak ho ek indian ko moderator banaya gaya hai.

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somebody removed my many qaumi nazariya

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A nation can have people from many religions .

for example Sindhis , have Muslims , hindus, chiristians, and Parsis among them , also a few Sikhs as well.

same is true for any other nation , even Afghans have Sikhs among them .

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A religion can have people from many Nations .

for example , take Christanity , it has , Germans, English, Japanese, Indians, British , Americans, Italians....etc.etc.etc.... People from many nations .

same is true of Islam or any other religion

so TNT was a construct , based on false premiss and ulterior motives to actually safe guard the interests of a select FEW , and they in turn hoodwinked , using massive propaganda and then later using FUD [Fear , Uncertainty and Deception ] strategy to achieve the objective of safe guarding their Interests only .

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^ Bro do you know the population of Sindh in 1941 and then in 1951, including the effects of migration (the demographic changes).

All that I have been able to dig is that 750000 people migrated from Indian Gujarat, Junagadh, Delhi, UP, Assam etc and about 800000 Hindus left towards India and then almost 100000 muslims per year kept migrating to Sindh till mid 60's I guess. Hence the balance of Muslims/Non Muslims in sindh changed dramatically.

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yes I very well know .

and also the impact of that migrations , some forced , some willingly , and some for some other reasons .

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Can you elaborate on that please? Punjab is an easy case and there's a lot of information, on Sindh its not easy to find on the internet.