Looks like Tayyep Erdogan has finally found a partner party in the parliamentary opposition that will allow him to change Turkey’s constitution at last to lift all restrictions against hijabs. Mashallah He’s been trying to do this for a while, but now we need to see if the army will overthrow him to stop it.
The governing party in Turkey and a key opposition party have agreed to work together to lift a ban on the Islamic headscarf in universities.
The Islamist-rooted ruling AK Party and the nationalist MHP said it was an issue of human rights and freedoms.
Together the two parties have enough votes in parliament to overturn the constitutional ban on headscarves.
Headscarves were banned in schools and universities in 1980 after a coup by the pro-secular armed forces.
The Turkish army sees itself as the guardian of the secular tradition laid out by Kemal Ataturk, who created the modern Turkish state - secular, but Muslim majority - out of the ruins of the Ottoman empire after World War I.
It regards the public wearing of headscarves as a political statement aimed at undermining secular principles.
However, opinion polls suggest there is strong public support for lifting the ban.
And some women refuse to go to university because of it.
“The issue of the headscarf was evaluated in terms of rights and freedoms,” the two parties said in a statement.
A power struggle last year between secular forces and the governing AK Party ended with the AKP being comprehensively re-elected in July.
It is not yet clear how the secular elite - army generals, judges and university officials - will react to the government’s latest move.
They speak of educating our women, and liberating them from the oppression put upon them by muslims, but here they deny innate human rights, and the ability to get an education.
Subhanallah this is excellent news... I am so happy to hear that our Turkish sisters will now be able to get a university level education while covering up in a manner that pleases Allah SWT.
May Allah SWT bless the ppl invovled in bringing around this change, Amin.
Good, if this is what it takes for women to go to the university, so be it. In modern secular countries like the US, hijabs are totally permitted - it should certainly not be banned in muslim-populated countries.
As long as it doesn't lead to extremist ninja-ism, whatever floats your boat.
Good, if this is what it takes for women to go to the university, so be it. In modern secular countries like the US, hijabs are totally permitted - it should certainly not be banned in muslim-populated countries.
As long as it doesn't lead to extremist ninja-ism, whatever floats your boat.
do u mean to say as long as muslim women choose not to cover their faces with niqab, then its ok?
Good, if this is what it takes for women to go to the university, so be it. In modern secular countries like the US, hijabs are totally permitted - it should certainly not be banned in muslim-populated countries.
As long as it doesn't lead to extremist ninja-ism, whatever floats your boat.
Are you calling the Prophet pbuh's wives extremist ninjas?
No, kiddo. I mean women who make trouble behind the veil, and don't have the guts to show their thopras to the world upon all the trouble they make.
Prophet's wives were also very knowledgeable women of their time who were very active in society. Just curious, but of all the muslim women who fit that character profile, how many of them DO wear full face niqabs and black robes that come down to their toes??
No, kiddo. I mean women *who make trouble behind the veil, and don't have the guts to show their thopras to the world upon all the trouble they make. *
Prophet's wives were also very knowledgeable women of their time who were very active in society. Just curious, but of all the muslim women who fit that character profile, how many of them DO wear full face niqabs and black robes that come down to their toes??
Uh, YEAH. That's your answer.
Salam,
Can you please elaborate the bolded part.
Just because someone doesn't do something the Prophet pbuh instructed or did, doesn't mean its justified. We have tons of ignorant people, who call themselves muslims, yet doesn't mean they're right.
Prophut pbuh instructed something. Muslims dont do it. Doesn't mean its not part of religion. Muslims dont decide whats in religion and whats not, its already been decided, and that mandate has come down to us from the heaven, through the Prophet saw.
HAHA! They were breaking the law, being funded by terrorist money, commiting treason by starting a state within a state, commiting acts of terrorism by abducting civilians instead of filing the proper FIR's against them if suspected of illegal activity, and hoarding a mess of explosives and weapons within a religious compound. You need more, buddy?
Prophut pbuh instructed something. Muslims dont do it. Doesn't mean its not part of religion. Muslims dont decide whats in religion and whats not, its already been decided, and that mandate has come down to us from the heaven, through the Prophet saw.
For the basic broad things, yeah. Like uh....don't kill innocent men, women, and children in warfare - oh guess, what? Your Taliban broke those rules.
Like uh...teach messages of love and peace...pshaw Taliban + love/peace? RIGHT!
Like uh...rules and regulations of physical jihad...all broken time and again.
Like uh...prohibiions ag/suicide. Again, broken.
Like uh...commands to educate women - are you hearing the bombs thrown on girl's schools in NWFP by the Taliban?
Like uh...no destruction of someone else's property...did the mass attacks on CD shops in NWFP escape your notice?
you really should make such statements. honestly, what percentage of sisters who cover their faces make "trouble"... you'd admit very little! so why go out of your way to point out a few? stick with the masses no? Just like every muslim women who doesn't cover her body the way she is meant to (Islamically speaking) shouldn't be referred to as a "bad" women, so shouldn't those who choose to cover their faces be referred to as Ninjas. The Mother of the believers did and that should be reason enough to avoid such terminology.
True, but these women are not getting very educaed, they are not taking leadership positions in society. The women in Turkey are the complete opposite. From what I've read, they want to wear a hijab, not necessarily a niqaab, and they DO want to go to school. The fact that they can't wear hijab is barring them, and hopefully if this legislation piece is successful, it will promote these women from going into education and taking up key leadership roles in the community. A community cannot move forward if all its women have their faces covered and follow the pattern you see clearly today. I'd love to do an actual survey on the topic, and my hypothesis is that those who cover even their faces tend not to work, and tend not to go to great heights with their education. Simple. That kind of mindset is dangerous for a society. Yes, its dangerous for women to take a submissive role in society - women need to be in key posts and roles in society, otherwise its simply not complete.
He’s been trying to do this for a while, but now we need to see if the army will overthrow him to stop it.