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Stop your defamatory campaign again the Allama immediately. Consider this your cease and desist notification. 
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Awe hai.. ya are so ryte.. we should be thankful to hv such characters :bummer:
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You must stop your profanities such as ‘Awe hai’. 
BTW, it is ‘Haw hai’. At least get your painDoo Punjaabi right.
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Awe hai.. when is mod sending the msg, "stick to the topic" ;)
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so where have inqilaab reached so far? yesterday i heard he ranaway from a press conference, friends say, ussay bari zor ka inqilaab aya howa tha iss liya bhaag gaya...
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so where have inqilaab reached so far? yesterday i heard he ranaway from a press conference, friends say, ussay bari zor ka inqilaab aya howa tha iss liya bhaag gaya...
I have already said, he should have been deported to Canada in the next plane from Islamabad. Diverting the flight was absolutely a stupid idea.
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He is nothing more than a stooge for the military trying to derail the process.
Lets agree on that for a second. If so, why doesn't the 'democratically elected govt with the ever so heavy mandate and the power of the people behind it' take the military to task for employing such a stooge? Why are our democratic leaders so gutless on the issue? Is it because they too are someone's stooges?
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I have already said, he should have been deported to Canada in the next plane from Islamabad. Diverting the flight was absolutely a stupid idea.
How do you deport someone from the country of his birth? He hasnt renounced his Pak citizenship, so he has every right to be here, as much as one may disagree with his politics.
And its funny watching PMLN and PPP joke about TUQ, when their own leaders fled the country, and slipped back on the heels of deals and pardons and NROs. At least the guy is not convicted in any case (though PMLN is trying to cook something up in that regard as well, considering that they own FIA now)
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Reminds me of AP 
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Lets agree on that for a second. If so, why doesn't the 'democratically elected govt with the ever so heavy mandate and the power of the people behind it' take the military to task for employing such a stooge? Why are our democratic leaders so gutless on the issue? Is it because they too are someone's stooges?
So you want 5th Marshal Law in Pakistan?
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Very true! Just ask Egyptians or Syrians if they are better off today or they were better off pre-revolutions.
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Very true! Just ask Egyptians or Syrians if they are better off today or they were better off pre-revolutions.
I was in Jordan few days ago, Syrians who might have been big shots in their own country are forced to sell their daughters or beg for money in order to have food for a day.. this was happened with Syrian who wanted CHANGE... And i have been to Syria many times before this Arab Spring thing started, it was not filthy rich, people were friendly and life was on a move... and then came the famous call of change... i wonder where is the leader of that Change now.. because syrians want his head...
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Please don’t call the Allama, ‘Saamri Jaadoogar’ or ‘agent of chaos’. 
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So you want 5th Marshal Law in Pakistan?
Only a hollow mandate would live in fear of that.
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Only a hollow mandate would live in fear of that.
Those that impose the coups do not care about the mandate of the people. They are trashing the constitution, do you really think they care who you and I voted for?
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Those that impose the coups do not care about the mandate of the people. They are trashing the constitution, do you really think they care who you and I voted for?
Maybe yes, maybe no. But a true mandate certainly gives a democratic ruler the moral courage and psychological edge to be able to take on anyone, without any threat of blackmail. Our history bears witness to that.
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Only a hollow mandate would live in fear of that.
Hollow mandate? In a country where Father of nation was put on the road while taken to hospital, where sister of quaid-e-azam was murdered, where 2 PMs were thrown out of their govts and one was hanged and other was sent in exile, where army have ruled directly for more than 35 years, where stooges like Shk Rasheed ( a one man party ) openly call for army rule, where a non entity like Tahir ul qadri blocks ISB for 3 days, where cheeni and cement chorus like ch brothers are considered to be the founders of revolution, any govt can feel the heat....
More over, can u tell me, why IK want to create anarchy while our army is busy in war which is going to decide our fate?
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Maybe yes, maybe no. But a true mandate certainly gives a democratic ruler the moral courage and psychological edge to be able to take on anyone, without any threat of blackmail. Our history bears witness to that.
True leader, our history? Can u name any?
Plus how many brigades just a politician control and what should happen when army takeover PM house? Should PM make his own army to protect him from the army?
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True leader, our history? Can u name any?
Plus how many brigades just a politician control and what should happen when army takeover PM house? Should PM make his own army to protect him from the army?
1970 elections are widely believed to be the only fair elections in the history of Pakistan, even though the way PPP came to power by sidelining Awami league was questionable, and a whole other debate. Bhutto fired the army and airforce chiefs, and there was no blowback, becuase he had plenty of public support behind him. Fast forward to 1977, when Bhutto conducted sham elections, and he was promptly thrown out, because he was guilty of moral turpitude, among other things.
PM doesnt need his own army to protect his premiership. All he needs is honesty and moral courage.