Truth in allegations of Jinnahpur uncovered

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@hermit

hmmm interesting.. I just saw their canadian website… apparently it seems that Canadian court can declare an organization as terrorist & then allow them to operate, induct members , place no restrictions on their activities even allow them to hold Annual Conventions the most recent of which just ended on 2nd Aug 2009..,

Lets be honest the verdict you are referring to was a verdict on the immigration appeal of someone associated with MQM in Federal immigration appeals board- the same premise led hundreds of their activist to get asylum in Canada based on their association with MQM & for some it was turned down but the canadian penal court has no jurisdiction nor any business with MQM & therefore has never passed any verdict.

Now, I am actually not an MQM supporter.., infact some people may find this hilarious but if Imran Khan stood for election from my constituency I would probably vote for him- I think he is a decent guy but unfortunately there is no room for decent guys in our politics.

The point that I am constantly (& perhaps not doing it right it seems) trying to cross is that millions of people vote for MQM.., some may vote for them because of coercion some because of ethinic homogenity(just like the bradari vote) but the vast majority votes for other reasons some because they believe MQM has delivered positively towards development in their constituency( you may find it very hard to believe but a lot of people in Karachi have been impressed by the likes of Mustafa Kamal), some because of their secular agenda & some because they are attracted to the fact that even though they have a militant element to which we in Karachi have now become accustomed to , as it is an attribute of all parties here- but they give their party ticket to middle class, young , educated political activists…,
I see no difference b/w these & the reasons for voting a particular party in rest of Pakistan

Add to this that a large section of their political base primarily believe in the point that I have been constantly re-iterating(they are no worse then the rest of the parties),
-You talk about cases - The sharif brothers have been convicted , to which they even did not file an appeal they just got away with a presidential pardon
Probably a single person with largest set of cases against him including murder & all kind of massive financial fraud is our sitting president & there are many many such cases against politicians from all parties ; you talk about perpetrating killings…, why must then the be a differentiation b/w responsibles of Pakka Qila , the military operation of the 90’s & MQM , while you would not endorse them neither do I endorse the militant aspect of MQM the fundamental point of difference b/w us is that you are willing to differentiate b/w politicians & their political institution (although in most of these cases there is no political institution just a club of influential & powerful individuals..), you are willing to let them do their politics & take-on responsibilities of public representation as long as the public is willing to trust them; for all parties except MQM, while my argument is on all dimensions the premise on the basis of which you want a distinct national response towards MQM is not just uniquely applicable to them, for that you consider me blinded by ethnicity

I consider you blinded by you rethnicity because you have throughout tried every tricky word to downplay the ethnically motivated terrorism of MQM which no other mainstream political party does. Within 2 years of its inception it managed it turn Karachi into a bloodbath. You have conviniently ignored countless racially motivated murders, torture cells, extortion, bhatta collection, attacks and murder of policemen, training for terrorism in India, into merely a militant side of MQM.

May i remind you that Mustafa Kamal has arrived on the scene only 2-3 years ago, MQM’s victory in elections precedes much longer. SO its not him that gets votes for MQM but other factors. WHich are co-ercion and racism.

Okay lets talk about the cases, yes Zardari has cases agianst him, for which he should never have been pardoned. However, Zaradri might have murdered for his personal gains, in his personal capacity for which he shud be tried, but, what he has NOT done is to raise an urban militia to rampage the whole city. Zardari has not shot down tens of opposition demonstrators in cold blood. His party has not been firing rocket launchers at police and army.

Sharifs might be corrupt, but, cases against them were politically motivated, they too have not comitted any acts of terorism or racial killings.

Miltary operation against MQM was the right thing to do. You may be happy with torture cells, barricades and killings of punjabis and hazaris, but, it only ended because of military operation. I am not much aware about pakka qila, but, i will look into its details. Perhaps you can tell me who was behind it.

The difference between other parties and MQM is teh same as teh difference between Qazi Hussain and Baitullah Mahsood. The former shud always be kept under watch and investigated, the later a terrorist that needs taken care of.