Truth in allegations of Jinnahpur uncovered

People of urban Sindh knew this along of course. “Jinnahpur” being the brainchild of right wing propagandists in the ISI to justify an East Pakistan like extermination campaign on mohajirs.

Truth in allegations of Jinnahpur uncovered

Truth in allegations of Jinnahpur uncovered
Updated at: 0500 PST, Monday, August 24, 2009
KARACHI: Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) Rabta Committee said the confessional statements by Brig (rtd) Imriaz and Gen (rtd) Naseer Akhtar have unfolded the truth in accusations on MQM regarding Jinnahpur.

According to statement issued here, **Brig (rtd) Imtiaz said the map of Jinnahpur was nothing more than a drama and no map was recovered from any MQM office.
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Meantime, former Core Commander Karachi Gen (rtd) Naseer Ahmed Khan also confessed he had no knowledge of Jinnahpur map.

The statements by these two pivotal characters involved in the operation against MQM, proved that the operation, which was launched against the party, was absolutely wrong, as MQM was innocent.

According to the statement, today the truth prevailed eventually, on which the party chief Altaf Hussain congratulates the whole nation.

^^^ ...It was shameful and horrendous how Nawaz Mardood victimised MQM and people of Karachi on trump-up charges for Nawaz own political goals. Racist, selfish, and Tassubi Politicians of Nawaz type can only bring misery to the people, creates hate for each other amongst different groups of Pakistanis, and harm unity of the country ... In the news it was told that Nawaz knew the charges were trump-up but he intentionally kept Karachi operation going because of this untrue charges, causing death to thousands of innocent Karachiets. In my opinion, such high treason by Nawaz deserve him severe punishment or death sentence, else this intentional act by him going unpunished could cause undue damage to unity of Pakistan in future (especially when fact has come out that Nawaz as prime Minister ordered Karachi operation knowing the facts that charges are fake). I do not know what people of Karachi must be thinking after knowing how they were killed like dogs and cats by Nawaz Mardood as if they were second class citizen. I am also wondering how people of minority provinces must be feeling knowing how Nawaz Mardood from majority province can use state forces to kill people of minority province even when they are innocent.

Actually, this revelation of fake Jinnahpur (that I saw in news) means that now if a new map comes out alleging that PMLN is trying to create an independent state ‘Shareef-Nagar’ with the help of India that includes Lahore, Raiwand and Sialkot, and taking that as excuse, Pakistan army arrests, tortures, and then executes 25,000 to 30,000 PMLN young members and sympathisers from Lahore and Nawaz Mardood along with Shahbaz Mardood is put in jail on charges of high treason, than that would be justifiably similar act.

Hahaha... came too soon. Were these army officials bribed or (more realistically) threatened to say it?

Interestingly, MQM was in government with Nawaz Sharif in Sindh Assembly in 1993 after the alleged killing of 'innocent' karachites in 1992. Why was killing of 'sympathisers' (read terrorists) ignored at that time?

And Saleem bhai, your language is the same as Taliban.

As for the 'innocent sympathisers', this is only a 'jhalak':

*The APMSO bought its first weapons from the IJT and the National Students Federation (NSF) while the MQM built a part of its armoury by trading cars for guns with the Pakistan People's Party (PPP)49. ........These boys have not only taken over the local distribution network, but also bring in their own supplies through regular visits to the tribal areas. They travel in small groups, always by train, and return to Karachi with their bags brimming with metal”51. The Mohajir students who resorted to that trade were initially apprehensive, thinking that the Pathan gunsmiths would refuse to sell them weapons because they would be turned against their brethren in Karachi. But ethnic prejudices were set aside by the Pathans when striking deals with Mohajirs. ......

In this environment, a culture of ultra-violence developed among Karachi's and Hyderabad's youths56 and firearms became a “fetish” for a whole generation, i.e. objects which cease to be purely functional to take on “an abstract power, an autonomous agency”57. These deadly weapons were no longer the attributes of the “uncouth and tribal Pathan”: they became “glamorous” to all and many young Mohajir males started carrying arms as an ornament. The possession of arms also provided these frustrated youths with a feeling of empowerment. “There is no greater feeling than having a well-oiled, loaded kalashnikov in your hotel room cupboard, with the whole hostel knowing about it” declared a Mohajir student to the magazine Newsline in October 1989. .......

**MQM members settled abroad are generally more loquacious, on this delicate issue, than those who remain based in Pakistan:

[INDENT]When the majority wants a separate state and we get the support of other countries, then we can do it . . . based on violence . . . because we will have to use violence. (. . .) I'm not saying MQM should do that, create that kind of environment where people suffer . . . but in my opinion, if I was the MQM leader, I would tell them to create that environment where we can make that state . . . It's pretty harsh but when you have to do it, one way or another, either you shut your mouth or you do it all the way . . . Even if you have to kill a few people . . . If you want to gain something then you have to loose something . . . . . .]
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Source:

Guns, Slums, and “Yellow Devils”: A Genealogy of Urban Conflicts in Karachi, Pakistan
LAURENT GAYER
Modern Asian Studies (2007), 41: 515-544 Cambridge University Press

I think that you have short memory just like Lanati Nawaz who do not even care that he is lying from holy cities of Hijaz, places from where even a person with little Imaan and respect of Prophet (SAW) would never lie (unlike Lanati Nawaz). It is true that MQM was in government with traitor and lanati Nawaz who back stabbed MQM in 1992, and in protest MQM not only came out of government but boycotted the election in 1993.

Anyhow after seeing the program ‘Sawal yea hay’ on TV, it is first time I realised that when Jinnahpur and Torture cells were fake and used as propaganda to kill innocent Karachiets, then anything people like you would say and anything published anywhere must be lies and propaganda. Program also confirms with certainty that Pakistan is full of Mardood and Lanati people like Nawaz and his cronies who lie continuously to victimise innocent people, and that whatever comes from Pakistan, especially from Liar Nawaz and his supporters is nothing but lies, especially against MQM.

Here is program: See it 100 times and cry on lies you and people like you fed the world for propaganda and victimisation. … and you should do tauba as whatever lies you ever said to victimise, demonise, and kill innocent Karachiets, you will be answerable on judgment day.

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Re: Truth in allegations of Jinnahpur uncovered

hahaha... now you guys starting to believe ex-ISI people too?

MQM back-stabbed its so called 'martyrs' when it formed governments with IJI, then PPP and now again PPP. Paisey key pujari. Pushtoons and Sindhis would have been wiped out of Karachi if MQM terrorism was not reduced through force.

Its not a propaganda, everyone knows.

Re: Truth in allegations of Jinnahpur uncovered

Mashallah, Mashallah

This the same sa1eem bhai who few months ago used to deny any MQM inclination, but, thats besides the point, see sa1eem bhai, when army started this operation against MQM terrorrist, it had to exterminate anyone who has harbouring, funding or hiding these MQM terrorists, trained in India, like Javed Langra who is hiding in india and Altaf piglet who is hiding in London. So no need to sympathise with those who were supporting these terrorists.

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yeah i watched this program last night....it was good debate...but i am sure everything will again be burried and forgotten...no one will answer.

And lannati MQM and its lannati pig leader kala altaf hussain then formed YET another Govt with the PML[N] in 1996-97! LOL

Do you mean "by our ancestors" that Urdu speaking people from UP, Bihar, Bengal, and Hyderabad?

Then the answer is no they didn't lose 2 million lives in 1947. Not even half a million. At the most few hundreds may be.

Most of the lives lost during 1947 were from the East Punjab and West Punjab. And perhaps Total lives lost for Muslims, Sikhs, and Hindus were not more than a million.

Estimates greatly vary on this subject and you are more than welcome to pick up the work by many authors.

Re: Truth in allegations of Jinnahpur uncovered

But there were massive killings in Delhi and Bihar as well I think.

Re: Truth in allegations of Jinnahpur uncovered

Good to know that… now can anyone file a case against that administration and get some “justice”? :halo:

Do you even know how many is 2 million? :D

I must say, MQM is extremely good at exaggerations... we even had more than a 100% voter turnout in some ares of Karachi during the last elections!

how about a suo moto action by the esteemed CJ?

[quote="Sa1eem, post:84, topic:206170"]

I think that you have short memory just like Lanati Nawaz who do not even care that he is lying from holy cities of Hijaz, places from where even a person with little Imaan and respect of Prophet (SAW) would never lie (unlike Lanati Nawaz). It is true that MQM was in government with traitor and lanati Nawaz who back stabbed MQM in 1992, and in protest MQM not only came out of government but boycotted the election in 1995]

Is not it shameful to use such language LIKE lanti. Are not you exposing yourself by using the words like LANTI for one of the most respectful leaders of Pakistan and for whom ....For the biggest mafia of pakistan, the terrorist organisation MQM.................... For a person who said that the creation of Pakistan is the greatest greatest blunder in the history of mankind.

Sure, why not... but why wait for mota-action?

Khehkeshan

You can not win your argument about mqm here. All mqm threads had a good lashing from majority in this forum. Why? Becuase mqm is based on fake principles and its leaders are criminals. Spritiual leader is afriad to come to Pakistan. So don't expect much sympathy or agreement on this too.

Re: Truth in allegations of Jinnahpur uncovered

Truth in allegations of Jinnahpur uncovered

Zia kay ha..mi bachay aapis main lar paray

How come no one is talking about PPP and Nasirullah Babar's actions in Karachi?

Is that because this thread (and the quoted ARY program) is supposed to be increasing hatred between us and Punjabis?

If that's the case, it should be made clear by KK.

Perhaps he plans to open a separate thread for flaming hatred between us and Sindhis/Pakhtuns.

Cuz MQM is in govt with PPP in Sindh these days? Seems they might actually have some traces of conscience after all.