Re: Triple Talaq valid?
heaven help me, I like Nomi's posts.
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yeh baat quran main kaha likhi hai k 3 talaq aik baar deni chahiye?
Yeah baat quran main kahan likhi hai ke Fajar kee namaz main 2 rakaat farz hai?
Not every thing is explained in quran in details, we have to look at the hadees and sunnah and life for sahaba for the explanations of many things
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^ TLK, the last time you quoted a hadith about angels cursing, you started armageddon between the feminazis and me.
Please don't quote any hadith now!
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Yeah baat quran main kahan likhi hai ke Fajar kee namaz main 2 rakaat farz hai?
Not every thing is explained in quran in details, we have to look at the hadees and sunnah and life for sahaba for the explanations of many things
i was just sayng that bcoz malka raani was saying quraan main bohat kuch likha hai...jo ham ghor se nahi parhtay........
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^ TLK, the last time you quoted a hadith about angels cursing, you started armageddon between the feminazis and me.
Please don't quote any hadith now!
Lollllz!!!
My parents divorced when I was 15. Prior to the legal divorce (according to
US law) they had separated a total of three times, and ended up getting back together to try and make it work after each separation. this is back in the late '80's, so I don't remember a whole lot of the specific details, but I do remember the Imam of our local masjid, who was a close family friend was heavily involved in the process with counseling and such. So I am assuming that the "just saying talaaq" three times in a row was not the way they were advised to do things.
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yeah ..cat fight 
Oh then actually I was supporting your argument …:k:
sorry for thinking otherwise
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^ you blackguard you!
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i was just sayng that bcoz malka raani was saying quraan main bohat kuch likha hai...jo ham ghor se nahi parhtay........
so is me bura mannay wali kaunsi baat hay Nomica, ofcourse, Quran main aisa bohat kuch hay jo hum ghor se nahin parhtay, aap isko aisay kyun le rahay hain ke hum itnay kam aqal hain? aap isay aisay bhi to lay saktay hain ke Allah ki har baat itni gehri hoti hay ke isay samajhne main yaqeenan bohat aqal require hay!!
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so is me bura mannay wali kaunsi baat hay Nomica, ofcourse, Quran main aisa bohat kuch hay jo hum ghor se nahin parhtay, aap isko aisay kyun le rahay hain ke hum itnay kam aqal hain? aap isay aisay bhi to lay saktay hain ke Allah ki har baat itni gehri hoti hay ke isay samajhne main yaqeenan bohat aqal require hay!!
bb main sirf yeh keh raha tha.......k quran main 3 talaq together denay k baaray main kuch nahi hai (as far as i know)....... thats why i asked the reference from u
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Can people please type in english, or at least space out the urdu a bit :P
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Friggin hate that word!
I'm no expert on the subject but 3 talaqs in one sitting is 1 talaq, thats what I heard from my local maulvi, he's a Hanafi. Makes sense really, its not like launching a rocket. Its a life changing decision, only makes sense if one has sufficient time to calm down and decide with a rational mind instead of blurting it out with a foaming mouth and all.
True that...although in some cases to hasten the process a couple might want to take it to court to get the divorce done in one sitting. That's what I've seen in Western countries, other countries might have different laws.
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So, if quran is the main source of sharia, then we agree that it is perfectly islamic if a woman is dressed like this?
PS Why do people starting talking in urdu while writing in english? It is so annoying!!! :mad:
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This is why random people should not discuss the intricacies of religion without having someone who knows what they are talking about present.
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Quran did not say three talaq at once are invalid.
It only gives command on how to give talaq just to protect a woman's dignity and she does not get blamed wrongly for carrying an illegitimate child while she is totally innocent.
Three talaq at once have been approved by the prophet SAW as mentioned above.
One can deny that completely at one's own discretion. Fine.
Why argue?
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Quran did not say three talaq at once are invalid.
It only gives command on how to give talaq just to protect a woman's dignity and she does not get blamed wrongly for carrying an illegitimate child while she is totally innocent. ** Three talaq at once have been approved by the prophet SAW as mentioned above. ** One can deny that completely at one's own discretion. Fine.
Why argue?
Please show me quote. To my knowledge Prophet SAW banned it, and it was reinstated later in Umar's time.
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Please show me quote. To my knowledge Prophet SAW banned it, and it was reinstated later in Umar's time.
Can you post where the prophet SAW 'banned' three talaq in one sitting to the point that three talaq in one setting is considered one?
I hope you have read hadiths on three talaqs considered final if given in sound mind and judgment.
I know these are hadiths and some may not agree with them.
The topic is complex and it also has to do with which fiqah or sect you follow.
Basically the matter is between the couple and Allah at the end.
Everyone has to search the specific situation and ask whoever they believe to be knowledgeable scholar.
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Can you post where the prophet SAW 'banned' three talaq in one sitting to the point that three talaq in one setting is considered one?
There is a Hadith recorded by Imam Abu Dawud and several other traditionists which can give us guidance in this matter: Rukana ibn Abu Yazid said “talaq” *to his wife three times on a single occasion. Then he was extremely sad at the step he had taken. The Prophet asked him exactly how he had divorced her. He replied that he had said *“talaq” *to her three times in a row. The Prophet then observed,* “All three count as only one. If you want, you may revoke it.”** Fath al-Bari, 9/275
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In the Prophet’s lifetime, then under the Caliphate of Abu Bakr and also during the early period of the Caliphate of ‘Umar, three utterances of talaq on one occasion used to be taken together as only one utterance. Then it occurred to *‘Umar ibn al-Khattab **that in spite of the fact that a system had been laid down which permitted the husband to withdraw his first, or even second *talaq, *men still wanted to rush into divorce. He felt that if they were bent on being hasty, why should not a rule be imposed on them binding them to a final divorce on the utterance of *talaq three times in a row. And he proceeded to impose such a rule.
This act on the part of the second Caliph, apparently against the principles of the Qur’an and Sunnah, did not in any way change the law of the *shari‘ah*. To think that this led to any revision of Islamic law would be to misunderstand the situation: the Caliph’s order **merely constituted an exception to the rule, and was, moreover, of a temporary nature. **This aptly demonstrates how the Islamic *shari‘ah *may make concessions in accordance with circumstances.
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Can you post where the prophet SAW 'banned' three talaq in one sitting to the point that three talaq in one setting is considered one?
Im quoting from Sahih Muslim for you now :
Book 9, Number 3491:
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Ibn 'Abbas (Allah be pleased with them) *reported that the (pronouncement) of three divorces during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger *(may peace be upon him) and that of Abu Bakr and two years of the caliphate of Umar (Allah be pleased with him) **(was treated) as one.
But Umar b. Khattab (Allah be pleased with him) said: Verily the people have begun to hasten in the matter in which they are required to observe respite.So if we had imposed this upon them, and he imposed it upon them.
Book 9, Number 3492:
Abu Sahba' said to Ibn 'Abbas (Allah be pleased with them):
*Do you know that three (divorces) were treated as one during the lifetime of Allah's Apostle *(may peace be upon him), and that of Abu Bakr, and during two (years) of the caliphate of Umar (Allah be pleased with him)?
Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with them) said: Yes.
*Book 9, Number 3493:
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Abu al-Sahba' said to Ibn 'Abbas: Enlighten us with your information whether the three divorces (pronounced at one and the same time) were not **treated as one **during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and Abu Bakr.
He said: It was in fact so, but when during the caliphate of 'Umar (Allah be pleased with him) people began to pronounce divorce frequently, he allowed them to do so (to treat pronouncements of three divorces in a single breath as one).