In the past tribal lifestyle meant independence, self reliant existence.
However the new global realities show that tribals are very susceptible to international crime syndicates.
Lack of modern police structure, courts, and bureaucracy means that when such international criminals infest a tribal area, the locals have no way to defend themselves.
All the laws that may have existed to protect such tribal environment then start working against the very tribal existence.
It is time to abolish all the tribal laws unless the tribes are located in safe, secure, and peaceful environment.
Re: Tribal lifestyle no longer compatible with the contemporary global situation
^ I agree. Tribal laws must be abolished, government should enforce it complete writ, control all these areas just like any other city. Setup schools, no weapons in public (shoot at sight for weapon-carrying-in-public), provide business/job opportunities etc.
Tribal areas have been used a criminal haven in past for example many MQM workers fled to tribal areas during operation cleanup, thousands of stolen vehicles showup in those areas to be sold etc.
Re: Tribal lifestyle no longer compatible with the contemporary global situation
if the trible system worked for thousand years, why cant it work now? the only problem is wrong polices, interfearance in others affairs. Sawat is not a trible area why we have problem their?Karachi is also not a trible area.
if the trible system worked for thousand years, why cant it work now? .
Certain things will survive for 1000s of years, and other will go away and die after their time.
And tribal system is on its death bed now, even though it may have worked for 1000s of years.
Take the case of one very important daily routine of humans aka taking a dump.
Well people took dump in the open fields for 1000s of years, but you can't do that anymore, at least not in a civilized society. We now are blessed with indoor plumbing.
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the only problem is wrong polices, interfearance in others affairs.
perhaps you are right.
But take the case of a buggy windows 95 system. It was great for its time. But we all had to upgrade. We couldn't blame it on users or hackers, we just had to upgrade.
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Karachi is also not a trible area.
Who said Karachi is perfect. But Karachi and other civilized and settled areas do provide and can afford better services. And that's the difference between settled areas and tribal areas. I hope you understand this fine line.
BTW settling and becoming civilized is a continuous struggle. Karachi has to improve too but it must move forward and become more settled and more civilized. We can't say that Karachi system has failed so let's turn it into another FATA. No Siree. That's like going back 100s of years.
Many aspects of tribal customs have now become obsolete and we should only keep them alive in museum or something. Just like Americans have kept old traditions alive in museum or protected areas for Amish or native Indians etc.
Perhaps the government should allow small 50 sq km areas for keeping the tribals traditions. But the rest of the region in FATA or elsewhere must move on by shedding the tribal customs. No iffs and definitely no butts.
Re: Tribal lifestyle no longer compatible with the contemporary global situation
yes and no.
yes because un-islamic ideology can and should be reformed, often the mass bloodshed that occurs between tribes is due to tribal tradition/custom and religion is overridden/forgotten/set aside in resolving the dispute(s). that has to change. all matters should be dealt with according to the local law (be it federal or provincial)
no, because that would be overstepping the liberty for people to maintain a culture and live how they wish. abolishing "tribal" culture is akin to U.S. constitution asking Amish community to modernize or else....
Re: Tribal lifestyle no longer compatible with the contemporary global situation
if the trible system worked for thousand years, why cant it work now? the only problem is wrong polices, interfearance in others affairs. Sawat is not a trible area why we have problem their?Karachi is also not a trible area.
Swat is not a tribal area, they were "occupied" by militants, the problem is not locale. The tribal system, if they want to survive, will have to give-and-take on some issues. For example they should not be allowed to provide refuge to criminals, in past many gangster used to run these areas whenever there was operation in their area, or they'd kill someone and take refuge in that area. Govt will need to enforce full monitoring anyone going in and out because of large number of stolen vehicles are smuggled in those areas. Many more issues why this tribal system either needs completely abolished or reforms (big time)
In the past tribal lifestyle meant independence, self reliant existence.
However the new global realities show that tribals are very susceptible to international crime syndicates.
Lack of modern police structure, courts, and bureaucracy means that when such international criminals infest a tribal area, the locals have no way to defend themselves.
All the laws that may have existed to protect such tribal environment then start working against the very tribal existence.
It is time to abolish all the tribal laws unless the tribes are located in safe, secure, and peaceful environment.
yes indeed many tribal laws are ignorance and against Islamic laws. which lead to extremism some times.
which must be finished and some government laws are also extremism against Islam.
yes indeed many tribal laws are ignorance and against Islamic laws. which lead to extremism some times.
which must be finished and some government laws are also extremism against Islam.
well Islamic laws must be practically enforced.
To be honest. Islamic laws are overhyped.
Islamic laws are no magic stone that will cure the ills of any society let alone the tribals.
Let me ask you a question.
Did you ever try to compare the Islamic laws of 1400 years ago with the "General laws of the Arab lands" back then?
For your information Muslims took the "existing" tribal laws and put a new stamp on them.
For example the Hadood laws were not some Muslim invention, stoning, lashing etc. were being practiced by Kuffar long before the advent of Islamic Sharia.
What Muslims did was to take out few of the tribal practices deemed irrelevant 1400 years ago.
All in all, Islamic sharia is the frozen set of tribal laws being practiced 1000's of years ago.
And if you apply the same tribal laws now, they will turn modern day tribals into much worse tribals.
And you can see that with your own eyes as to how Talibanic brutality has destroyed Afghanistan and FATA + Swat.
