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Jawan Khud Kush bambar…
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Waheed Murad? Jawan maut?
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I think Afghanistan has suffered from this trauma (of loosing its youth in war)more than any other country during recent times. This has given a particular shape to the Afghan society and adjacent areas.
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Death of a loved one or any human being in general is an extremely sad event and a very traumatic experience but young deaths are simply too hard to forget. Even in English culture, young and unexpected death is also considered a great tragedy. When a person dies as an elderly, parts of you acknowledges and find consolation in the fact that the deceased lived his/her life before leaving this world. He/she experienced all the highs and lows of life, built relationships, created memories, achieved milestones etc and psychologically, you see an old death as completion of human life span.
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Yes that is the fact. As far as accomplishments are concerned, I once said to Babloo ‘Muhammad Bin Qasim ne 17 saal ki age main Sindh Fateh kar liya tha.. tum 28 ke ho kar abtak maa baap se jaib kharch lete ho. how sad?’ 
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I think Afghanistan has suffered from this trauma (of loosing its youth in war)more than any other country during recent times. This has given a particular shape to the Afghan society and adjacent areas.
^You're quite right about this. An effect this has on society, that I have noticed, is the change in people's perceptions regarding age. Back home (and to some extent even among people living abroad), people are considered "old" at a much younger age (late 20s and anything after 30) than in most other places. I think the reason for this is that, given the chaos of the past 30 years, many people who grew up back home faced greater hardships and responsibilities at a younger age than people living elsewhere.
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^You're quite right about this. An effect this has on society, that I have noticed, is the change in people's perceptions regarding age. Back home (and to some extent even among people living abroad), people are considered "old" at a much younger age (late 20s and anything after 30) than in most other places.
In sub-continent (areas which now forms part of India and Pakistan) has a link with this young age death (life expectancy) and marriages at young age. Marriages at young age (12-13 years) was acceptable norm, because in most cases ladies died in 40s across sub-continent. It was, therefore, considered unsuitable to remain unmarried even after 20s. Education and increase average span of life has not changed the perception in many areas todate.
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In sub-continent (areas which now forms part of India and Pakistan) has a link with this young age death (life expectancy) and marriages at young age. Marriages at young age (12-13 years) was acceptable norm, because in most cases ladies died in 40s across sub-continent. It was, therefore, considered unsuitable to remain unmarried even after 20s. Education and increase average span of life has not changed the perception in many areas todate.
^The rather tragic irony in the case of Afghanistan is that we seem to have gone backwards, in the opposite direction. My parents' older siblings and other adults of that generation (the 1960s) seem to have had rather normal lives and married at relatively normal ages (around 25-28). I find it quite sad that people of my generation are considered "old" in their late 20s and often marry at 17-18 (both sexes, not just women) as result of the decreased life expectancy. My grandparents often state that this wasn't the case when they were growing up.
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This is strange custom, I've seen in some Sindhi families. If a guy dies without marriage, his dead body is decorated like a groom. sometimes, they apply mehndi on his hands and put sehra (locally known as MoR) over his face. I thought its done because they (parents) want to fulfill their wishes of seeing their son as groom, but lately I know that it was common custom in Hindus and they used to do this with dead bodies of young unmarried girls.
Death at young age not only a cause of unfulfilled wishes of those who dies, but of those as well who remain behind.
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^Muqawwee,
I know this is rather off topic (and I apologise) but reading this thread rather reminded of me something I wanted to show you (a couple of vintage photographs) a couple of days ago but forgot about until now. Apparently though, the pm thingy is telling me that I cannot message you as you have exceeded your stored private messages quota. Pm when you get a chance. :)
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^Muqawwee,
I know this is rather off topic but reading this thread rather reminded of me something I wanted to show you (a couple of vintage photographs) a couple of days ago but forgot about until now. Apparently though, the pm thingy is telling me that I cannot message you as you have exceeded your stored private messages quota. Pm when you get a chance. :)
Do share. I just clean up my inbox.
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^I shall do that. :)
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^I shall do that. :)
You can also send me CC....
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You can also send me CC....
I just did. :)
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This is strange custom, I've seen in some Sindhi families. If a guy dies without marriage, his dead body is decorated like a groom. sometimes, they apply mehndi on his hands and put sehra (locally known as MoR) over his face. I thought its done because they (parents) want to fulfill their wishes of seeing their son as groom, but lately I know that it was common custom in Hindus and they used to do this with dead bodies of young unmarried girls. .
This practice was followed in rural Punjab as well.
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Aa Kisi Roz Kisi Dukh Pe IkhathaY Royen
Jiss Tarah Marg-e-Jawan Saal Pe Dehaton Main..
Boorhiyan RotaY hue Bain Kiya karti Hain..
Jiss Tarah eK Siyah Posh ParindaY Ke Kaheen girnaY Se.
Daar Ke daar zamenon Pe utar Atay Hain..
Every death is followed by bain... but for young ones unfulfilled wishes intensify the process.
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This is strange custom, I've seen in some Sindhi families. If a guy dies without marriage, his dead body is decorated like a groom. sometimes, they apply mehndi on his hands and put sehra (locally known as MoR) over his face. I thought its done because they (parents) want to fulfill their wishes of seeing their son as groom, but lately I know that it was common custom in Hindus and they used to do this with dead bodies of young unmarried girls.
Death at young age not only a cause of unfulfilled wishes of those who dies, but of those as well who remain behind.
I was thinking about this. In times past, a person's wedding attire was probably the fanciest that they would get to wear in their lifetime. Could this custom have more to do with dressing up the deceased in their finest finery rather than dressing them up as a bride/groom specifically?
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'Uski umr thi jaane ki'. This line is quite common when someone dies before 60-70s in our part of the world.
is this also common among other cultures? I mean fixing of certain age for death? Whats considered reasonable age to die?
Abi Jaam e umar bhara na tha k, kaffe dast e saaqi chalak para ...
Rahi dil ki dil hi main hasratain .... K nishaan qaza nay mita diya ....