How many Pakistani humanitarian aid workers go from their homes to help in disasters all over the world? How many of those humanitarian workers are American? How many American humanitarian workers helped during all those disasters? I've never met a Pakistani person who will give up the comfort of their homes and families to work with their own hands to help those in need. I have met several Americans who would do it in a second.
You are looking at one. At least I have the decency to stay in the country for a couple of years and do some real good, instead of a 2 week stint to pad a CV.
Well then. A simple point. Pakistanis have been over represented in the UN for the past 20 years with a good portion of them in the field working in places like Darfur, Congo, Sierra Leone etc. So if its a comparison on real humanitarian work, Pakistanis on average spend more time in the field doing Human Rights and Political work than Americans do.
How many Pakistani humanitarian aid workers go from their homes to help in disasters all over the world? How many of those humanitarian workers are American? How many American humanitarian workers helped during all those disasters? I've never met a Pakistani person who will give up the comfort of their homes and families to work with their own hands to help those in need. I have met several Americans who would do it in a second.
Because when you have a big mess up at your own home & country you dont go around helping others. Its same as .. if a family member was sick and a neighbour is sick, you definitely attend to your family member first.
So when the 2005 Earthquake took place, literally more than a million Pakistanis from the entire country went as volunteers to the North to help people. If you're in Pakistan, you would definitely know many people in your circle who did go all the way up specially those who were doctors & celebrities to help others. My own mamoon took trucks full of groceries and items 4 times all the way after traveling 24 hours to give to some random strangers who were in pain.
Same way when the floods took place last year, so much of aid was collected and people personally went to Sindh and areas to give to people in need.
The difference is: These acts are not highlighted, neither does our media cover it, neither do our people appreciate it enough other wise lots of people around us help others a lot.
Let alone the floods & earth quakes, the amount of charity we give our maids & those under privileged living near us is in not comparable to the gora class. Our religion teaches us about zakat, fitrana, sadqa and all such forms of helping others. We are just not proud of and we as a whole don't flaunt about of what we have or what we do, neither does our media give any attention!
That's one of the fundamental differences between the USA media...which promotes patriotism and highlights every little act of it's citizens, and the media back home that only covers sensationalism and world affairs.Here, they know how to instill passion in a little child...my 5 year old knew the pledge of allegiance by heart at age 4, with no mistakes, and recites it with pride toward the flag. I wish we could work on the same passion back home...but how can you amidst so much mess. May Allah protect the people.
That's one of the fundamental differences between the USA media...which promotes patriotism and highlights every little act of it's citizens, and the media back home that only covers sensationalism and world affairs.Here, they know how to instill passion in a little child...my 5 year old knew the pledge of allegiance by heart at age 4, with no mistakes, and recites it with pride toward the flag. I wish we could work on the same passion back home...but how can you amidst so much mess. May Allah protect the people.
Totally agree! Our media just has those national songs played on 14th August as a token of appreciation ONLY -
I think its more like media thing.
To pakis(living in amreeka) its like a chance to be a "good" human guilt free, and with no chance of getting A$@ kicked from amreeka. poor you.
I think its all come down to $$ after all, you guys are impotent to pakistan because you send money back.
Remember kashmir earthquake ? it wiped out a complete one generation. Had that happen in amreeka, my pakis would be going out on streets crying every years to share the pain with a$# kicking amreekans.
But god forbade if you share pain of such an non-decent state(pak) ..
I agree it's a media thing, baqi sara kuch kehnay ki khas zaroorat nahi thi. Pakistani government can start highlighting the past events/disasters through media to get the same responses.
Because when you have a big mess up at your own home & country you dont go around helping others. Its same as .. if a family member was sick and a neighbour is sick, you definitely attend to your family member first.
So when the 2005 Earthquake took place, literally more than a million Pakistanis from the entire country went as volunteers to the North to help people. If you're in Pakistan, you would definitely know many people in your circle who did go all the way up specially those who were doctors & celebrities to help others. My own mamoon took trucks full of groceries and items 4 times all the way after traveling 24 hours to give to some random strangers who were in pain.
Same way when the floods took place last year, so much of aid was collected and people personally went to Sindh and areas to give to people in need.
The difference is: These acts are not highlighted, neither does our media cover it, neither do our people appreciate it enough other wise lots of people around us help others a lot.
Let alone the floods & earth quakes, the amount of charity we give our maids & those under privileged living near us is in not comparable to the gora class. Our religion teaches us about zakat, fitrana, sadqa and all such forms of helping others. We are just not proud of and we as a whole don't flaunt about of what we have or what we do, neither does our media give any attention!
I know plenty of Pakistanis who are doing work to help their own country.
My point was to address Monk's that Americans give no thoughts to tragedies around the world, which is simply not true. It IS true that we are removed from a lot of the world's tragedies. And yet still I meet Americans who go all over the world to not just give time and money, but also work with their hands and help people.
It's really too easy to say, "Americans have no problems at home, that's why they can help everyone else." That is just plain false. The point is that there are plenty of Americans who have nothing in common with people they are helping, except that they are fellow humans, and they will go out of their way to aid their survival and improve their lives. That kind of dedication and sacrifice should not be trivialized or simply ignored because people like to equate American people with the American government, or because people like to vilify America because it's so easy.
I know plenty of Pakistanis who are doing work to help their own country.
My point was to address Monk's that Americans give no thoughts to tragedies around the world, which is simply not true. It IS true that we are removed from a lot of the world's tragedies. And yet still I meet Americans who go all over the world to not just give time and money, but also work with their hands and help people.
It's really too easy to say, "Americans have no problems at home, that's why they can help everyone else." That is just plain false. The point is that there are plenty of Americans who have nothing in common with people they are helping, except that they are fellow humans, and they will go out of their way to aid their survival and improve their lives. That kind of dedication and sacrifice should not be trivialized or simply ignored because people like to equate American people with the American government, or because people like to vilify America because it's so easy.
Seriously don't get me started on it!!
Princess is going to end up crying every night before she goes to bed.
^ Yes, I am so unstable that I will be sobbing and sobbing because you can’t get over your own inferiority complexes to acknowledge others’ good deeds.
Monk, let's not turn this thread into an american-bashing thread. We're speaking of the good deeds of the average people in Pakistan and US, and tragedies around the world, not of the dirty ops of the governments.
Monk, let's not turn this thread into an american-bashing thread. We're speaking of the good deeds of the average people in Pakistan and US, and tragedies around the world, not of the dirty ops of the governments.
BBQ I wasn't bashing. I just wanted her to see where her country needs real help.
Where it goes too brutal on ppl and good amreekan need to do real work and play real part in their own country.
So far her country has VERY successfully used good amreekan to give it self a face lift.
Nothing more.
I never denied that Americans have committed atrocities in their own land and all over the world. You’re not presenting any new information here. My initial comments were in response to your post in which you made huge and inaccurate generalizations about Americans. Rather than admit that you were wrong, you are posting things that are only tangentially related. It would be best if you actually point to specific things I said that you disagree with and have a discussion like a mature human being. Or admit your were wrong.
BBQ I wasn't bashing. I just wanted her to see where her country needs real help.
Where it goes too brutal on ppl and good amreekan need to do real work and play real part in their own country.
So far her country has VERY successfully used good amreekan to give it self a face lift.
Nothing more.
Are you saying that be sending Americans off to good works internationally, the American government hopes to mask its own atrocities? I'm not denying they do that. I'm saying that you need to acknowledge and not simply dismiss and ignore those Americans who do sacrifice their time, comfort, loved ones, money, etc to help others.
How many Pakistani humanitarian aid workers go from their homes to help in disasters all over the world? How many of those humanitarian workers are American? How many American humanitarian workers helped during all those disasters? I've never met a Pakistani person who will give up the comfort of their homes and families to work with their own hands to help those in need. I have met several Americans who would do it in a second.
There are many many Pakistani humanitarian aid workers who also contribute a lot and go to different countries to help them in time of aid and need. Our team of doctors as well as alot of private NGO representatives make a lot of effort to work at a national as well as international level.
When a person's own tummy is well fed and is living in a secure safe environment, he's more likely to feel for those people who are deprived of these things. Where as in Pakistan at the moment the situation is so tense that they need to work harder on all the possible issues in their plate before they could embark on humanitarian aid for other countried.
Half the south is under floods and most of Punjab is facing a deadly dengue epidemic. I haven't seen many threads here on GS talking about those so far unfortunately.
I never denied that Americans have committed atrocities in their own land and all over the world. You're not presenting any new information here. My initial comments were in response to your post in which you made huge and inaccurate generalizations about Americans. Rather than admit that you were wrong, you are posting things that are only tangentially related. It would be best if you actually point to specific things I said that you disagree with and have a discussion like a mature human being. Or admit your were wrong.
My initial response was not for emreekan emreekan, it was for paki amreekans.
Now amreekan amreekans, who watch TV 300 hrs a week only know one act of ugliness, sep 11.
How ever you would think paki amreekan, would know more.
When paki amreekan wants to express them self(which they are not really welcome to do) , they only do it when it goes fine with majority.
Because when you have a big mess up at your own home & country you dont go around helping others. Its same as .. if a family member was sick and a neighbour is sick, you definitely attend to your family member first.
So when the 2005 Earthquake took place, literally more than a million Pakistanis from the entire country went as volunteers to the North to help people. If you're in Pakistan, you would definitely know many people in your circle who did go all the way up specially those who were doctors & celebrities to help others. My own mamoon took trucks full of groceries and items 4 times all the way after traveling 24 hours to give to some random strangers who were in pain.
Same way when the floods took place last year, so much of aid was collected and people personally went to Sindh and areas to give to people in need.
The difference is: These acts are not highlighted, neither does our media cover it, neither do our people appreciate it enough other wise lots of people around us help others a lot.
Let alone the floods & earth quakes, the amount of charity we give our maids & those under privileged living near us is in not comparable to the gora class. Our religion teaches us about zakat, fitrana, sadqa and all such forms of helping others. We are just not proud of and we as a whole don't flaunt about of what we have or what we do, neither does our media give any attention!
Completely agree with Daffy. Yesterday I switched on the tv and it was full of reports against the doctors in Govt hospitals. It only covered the negative aspects of hospitals and how people were waiting for reports and nobody would attend to them.
I then later talked to my dad about the whole situation. He said you have no clue how hard everybody is working here. He himself came back from the hospital around midnight and said everybody was around especially junior doctors who volunteered to stay in the emergency dengue wards to treat and monitor those patients. And the picture the media was showing was like the complete opposite just to trigger ripples of despondency around.
