tragedies/hardships around the world

While I completely understand the feeling of “my nation suffered more simply based on the notion that this affected me more directly and thus I am right”, must we have threads like this every single year? I mean its getting old. I think i have stated at least 3 times, where I was or what i was doing on Sept 11.

I would love to see a thread about in memory of any other nation on GS that has suffered far more than the US. Sadly you won’t see that because “hey my nation suffered more only because this directly affects me more”.

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You are free to open those threads.

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I have and they get no traction. The suffering in Darfur, Congo is not relevant to those who post here. So it gets ignored. Going back to my original point of "This is only relevant as it affected me in some way and thus deserves a thread every year."

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The attack on the twin towers was a single moment in time as opposed to an ongoing war or conflict and people can, practically speaking, track back where they were when it happened or when they found out about it.

Almost like the assassination of JFK or the falling of the Berlin Wall - it's a moment in history that changed or affected the course of geopolitical affairs, and for Muslims affected how we saw ourselves and how others saw us. The actions of a few on a single day continue to resonate to present and we are still affected by the events of that day.

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Sehrysh tell that to a woman whose entire village in Darfur was wiped out by the Janjaweed, lost her kids and her husband. The sentiments you express in your post above would get you slapped in a few seconds.

That moment in time for her is more relevant than the twin towers falling.

Again reiterates my point "hey my nation suffered more only because this directly affects me more".

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I think its more like media thing.
To pakis(living in amreeka) its like a chance to be a "good" human guilt free, and with no chance of getting A$@ kicked from amreeka. poor you.
I think its all come down to $$ after all, you guys are impotent to pakistan because you send money back.

Remember kashmir earthquake ? it wiped out a complete one generation. Had that happen in amreeka, my pakis would be going out on streets crying every years to share the pain with a$# kicking amreekans.

But god forbade if you share pain of such an non-decent state(pak) ..

Re: 10 years ago today

If you read my post in response to Monk's, I was clear about not minimizing ANY person's tragedy or circumstances - each of us has our own crosses to bear. But the media coverage of the WTC attacks, the international impact and subsequent response to the attack and our own ability to relate the attacks on WTC to ourselves, is why it continues to be discussed.

Unfortunately I don't know that woman in Darfur who lost her family, nor do I know the millions who have been displaced or killed or maimed - that doesn't mean I don't feel compassion for her, rather it does mean that their plight does not get the attention is deserves.

You are correct in saying that we should discuss these people and their circumstances, and not just talk about them, but focus our attention and our efforts to change their situation. But to shine attention on their plight does not mean that we need to ignore another tragedy.

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How many Pakistani humanitarian aid workers go from their homes to help in disasters all over the world? How many of those humanitarian workers are American? How many American humanitarian workers helped during all those disasters? I've never met a Pakistani person who will give up the comfort of their homes and families to work with their own hands to help those in need. I have met several Americans who would do it in a second.

Re: 10 years ago today

:D where were you made ??
Like in Cinderella city or some thing ??

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Born and raised in the shadows of the capital. :snooty:

Re: 10 years ago today

:lifey:
enjoy the world where there not many things going on. :smiley:

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I personally don't know of any who can afford to fly all over the world to lend a helping hand in cases of disasters but I know of plenty who have done more than they were capable of in their own homeland, not only in cases of disasters but I know of many for whom humanitarian aid is an ongoing process. For example a group of doctors, including my khalu, leaving the comfort of their homes once every year to help out the needy in the underprivileged villages of Pakistan.

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There are a lot of humanitarians in South Asia region but you don't see them in news, you see all white people rescuing and stuff. :p

Re: 10 years ago today

You only see them in the news when they get threatened/kidnapped/killed by the talibans! :no:

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I have a friend in Islamabad who is all over the place, wherever needed, to help out in whatever way she can. She's an amazing young lady with so much passion for people. I also know people here in the US, a couple of physicians and a lady and her dad who set off to different parts of the world to help people struck by natural disasters. They have other jobs but do have the flexibility and resources to be able to do that. There are good people every where. However, I think many people back home want to to stuff but cannot due to lack of resources, safety factors, etc...

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Humanitarians would go anywhere in the world without the preference of race and religion so it’s not a surprise that American activists helped those outside America, regarding the works of Pakistani humanitarians,

Some of the notable Pakistani humanitarians for international aid work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taseer_Bashirhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Sattar_Edhi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhtar_Hameed_Khan
Also, I don’t think we should compare developing countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh etc with UK and US when it comes to aid and resources.

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These. Wahan adhi se zyada population tau khud madad mangti hai wo kisi ko kya madad dein ge.

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:lifey: kehty heen ek eent ukharo to ek saint milta hay. I am not making this up.. we have equal amount of shaa’etans and saints.
There is reason that society is still holding. Certainly its not Govt which is taking care of all. Trust me. There are good ppl
with out any one knowing any thing. That too at every level.

Re: tragedies/hardships around the world

are we remembering random tragedies around the world? in addition to so many other tragic events in various countries, i also feel great grief for the 3000-5000 kurd muslims(men, women, children) that were killed and 7,000 that were injured by their own country's military in iraq during the Halabja Poison Gas Attack.

it's sad that other countries didn't come to their rescue and it still remains the largest chemical weapons attack directed against a civilian-populated area in history.

Re: tragedies/hardships around the world

My post was in response to Monk's suggestion that Americans care nothing for world events/tragedies.