thats wht American media might tell its audience that usually have fairly short term memory…Iran today is bolder than it has ever been in 40 years of mullahcracy…its operating directly or indirectly (with success) in half a dozen or so countries…its proxies (Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jehad) have given Israel hard time for the first time in Israel’s existence…etc etc…
btw coming to negotiation table is weakness of Iran or USA?..Iran from day one of Khomeini has demanded negotiations on equal grounds and tht is what they are getting right now…US on other hand - despite inflicting world’s greatest known war on Iran (via saddam), direct invasion (operation eagle claw), sabotage (hafte tire bombings that killed dozens of Iranian MPs in one hit), sanctions (u know em), assasinations (Iranians scientists) -has failed to accomplish its objective which was to bring down the mullah regime…
what u r describing here is Saudi mode of operation tht is rigid, hardly progressive and even regressive at times…Iran works along ideological grounds (tht are in line with its national interests of course) rather than sectarian grounds…it works just fine with hamas (sunni), Islamic Jihad (Sunni), and even Taliban of late in Afgh…
I completely agree. Pakistan need to stay out of this war. Especially this Saudi and Iran proxy. It disgusts me completely how our hukmaraans are selling our soldiers to the war..we have no business. These fricking Saudis and Iranis..need to fight their own battle..stop using proxies in the region and flaming another war.
Problem with Saudi Arabia is their record and mixing of their Wahabi puritan ideology and petrodollars. Vast majority of jihadi global terrorists from all over the world have direct or indirect link with Saudi Arabia…but problem with Saudis, and most Arabs, is they are incapable of fighting wars. We have seen them seeking outside help and getting beat up by Israel countless times. As for Iran, I have no doubts that Iran’s Ayotullahs are equally evil (as house of Saud), but if you look at Iran it has been victim most of the times. Also, Iran is lot less Shia ideology driven & more see itself as Muslim powers who must protect muslim interest. For example, Iran was the only country supplying weapons to muslims in Bosnia & has been backing Palestinians who are mostly sunnis, unlike other sunni arabs.
Pak gov is beyond pathetic. Saudi dictators asks it to jump; it will ask how high? No self respect what so ever.
Last time saudis suffered heavy loss via ARIEL bombing against houthis with the latest jets. This time they decided they will send pak army for sacrifice… Afterall cheap life, better fighters.. ..Win win for saudis! Wish our gov was as smart.
This could also easily spill over into pakistan where both shia/sunni genocide is already in full swing by the wahabi scum.
Secondly; houthis are yemenis; they have the support of the wider population; the army/airforce and other significant representative of yemen who all opposed the non elected hadi for not meeting thier demands despite promising to do so; who then resigned and hence no longer a legit. leader. Houthis still wish for an inclusive gov for all.
Iran was as much involved as it is in bahrain.. the saudis and gulf arabs are using it as an excuse to invade yemen as they did in bahrain. Just like israel sees hamas in hospitals and UN schools before it flattens the buildings; similiarly saudi and gulf arabs see iran under every stone.
It doesnt so much as squeak when israel bombs gaza/lebanon to smitherens… But very quickly lines up its forces against the unarmed protesters in bahrain and houthi rebels. What is that saying; even a mouse is a lion in its own backyard.
Then there is the complete irony of 15 foriegn dictators supposedly rushing to the aid of a supposed ‘legit’ leader who btw had resigned and hiding out in its embassy before leaving the country…what gives?
One thing is clear.. Saudi, gulf arab isis al qaeda israel US are pretty much on one side. Things have lined up as expected. Game. set. match.
Its the same with Iranis, they cant sell their petrol but can smuggle to war torn areas in abundance and fuel wars. To say that Iran is less driven by shia ideology is laughable. Backing of Palestinians has mostly been posture nothing substantial. Iran since days of Khomeni took up the role of instigating shia populations over the globe to rise politically against sunnis in their areas.
^ I have little time to grace you with reply but wht u r saying is actually laughable…so Iran’s support for Palestinians is “posture and nothing substantial”…then I wud get u to guess which country makes “fajr missile” tht Hamas and Islamic jihad fire upon Israel and for which israel had to use iron dome system to protect itself from Palestinians for the first time in history…guess who provides military training to Palestinian resistance groups? guess where Hamas headquarter has been before its recent relocation?..Mahmoud Abbas, leader of fatah which is opposition group to hamas, says “almost all of hamas budget comes from Iranian donations”…and finally here is a vdo for u…
examples? can u quote me a single Shia scholar tht asks for standing up to “Sunni” rulers on the basis of their sect or allows for the killing of Sunnis, even Wahabhis? Houthis stood up against Ali Abdullah Saleh who was a Zaydi Shia just like them, why did they?
I can quote you dozens of Wahabhi leaders and scholars who preach that Shia (& Sunnis that stand in their way) need to be marginalized, killed, mustnt have any share in the government regardless of their presence and population, and any person/group that speaks from them or speak for them is an agent of Iran and is working for Persian empire purposes…how sustainable do you think this attitude is and how long can this wahabhi ideology carry on in the world of today?
(Reuters) - Yemen’s Houthi militiamen and allied army units shelled Aden overnight while Saudi-led coalition jets bombed their positions near the airport, killing at least 36 people, officials and witnesses said on Tuesday.
Iran-allied Houthis are pushing on the outskirts of the city, the last bastion of Yemeni President Abd-Rabbu Mansour Hadi, despite six days of Saudi-led air strikes meant to stem their advance.
Artillery fire on the Khor Maksar district of Aden killed 26 people overnight, a health ministry official said. …
(Reuters) - Members of the Saudi-led coalition conducting air strikes in Yemen are preventing a Red Cross plane from delivering medical supplies in Sanaa, an ICRC spokeswoman said on Tuesday.
In a statement, the independent aid agency “called for the urgent removal of obstacles to the delivery to Yemen of vital medical supplies needed to treat casualties from a week of deadly clashes and air strikes”.
“We still don’t have the permission from coalition members,” ICRC spokeswoman Sitara Jabeen told Reuters in Geneva, declining to specify which coalition authorities were responsible for the hold-up…
If you bothered to look at things without your sectarian glasses, you will know that Ali Abdulla Saleh only faught houthis as long as he was allowed to rule the whole Yemen, NOW armed forces loyal to him are fighting with the houthis against ordinary people of Yemen.
And what has Iranian rockets achieved for Palestinians - nothing. Rather Israel is happy keeping Hamas and Hezbullah that pose no threat to Israel as. Propaganda tool to maintain its agressive policies.
^There are reports that both Iran and Israel have supported Hamas in the past. There are reports that Iran and US cooperated in Afghanistan and in Iraq. The point is, everyone sees whats their benefit in a particular situation. And there is no doubt that Iranis are involved in Houthi uprising but they don’t want other countries to be involved in countering houthis.
the houthis are not fighting the ordinary people; they ARE the ordinary people defending thier rights. The oppostion to hadi were several political parties not just houthi. He had broken his promises and over run his term. They gave him plenty if chancee to redeem himself but he refused cause he knew had saudi /west have his back.
if iran was arming/instigating houthis you would know about it.. As you do in iraq; syria; and lebanon etc. you can easily tell when iran is involved. Houthis are a warring tribe; theyve been fighting for thier rights for a long long time. It was saudi that was suppressing them first via saleh smd then via hadi. They rose in popularity and success during the arab spring.
3.What did iranian support achieve for hizbullah/hamas? Seriously? The only reason israel is crying daily about attacking iran.. Is because iran is supporting hamas and hizbullah. The only reason syria is in a state right now was israels/west/saudi aim to break the link between hamas and hezbullah.
Do you really think they care that asad is a dictator..or that the rebels that they funded and trained are mostly foriegn al qaeda/al nusra /daesh types?
Iran has always supported the oppressed regardless of sect; and they are paying through their nose for it. If they stopped support for hamas/hizbullah; israel will drop their opposition asap. Infact that would be the easier option; but obv the immoral one. Perhaps they realise unlike the saudis; that they have a God to answer to tomorrow
Even in syria where they had a strategic ties; they were looking for a diplomatic way to resolve the issue…until they saw that every foreigner and thier grandma was involved, it became a survival matter. EVERYONE involved except the syrians themselves..and in hindsight.. They were correct. Assad over daish/israel everytime.
even under current circumstances the Saudi foreign minister speaks at the emergency Arab league meeting under the influence of dodgy sharbat…what a joke these guys are!
Here is the picture of this war so far. Today BBC reported that an ordinary yemeni is really suffering in hell. They are so poor that even in Peace they dont know if they’ll get the next meal or no. And they are in the middle of a forced war:
Saudi foreign Minister sounds drunk. As i said, this is proxy and sectarian war..between Arabs Vs Iran. I also agree, bombing Houthi targets wouldn’t achieve anything. Rather this will add fuel to the fire in the region.
With all said above, Iran needs to stop playing games in Arab world. Say for example, Bahrain uprising.
With it’s prevalent Shia population there, Iran wanted to help bring “uprising” in kingdom of Bahrain.
I hope Pakistan remains neutral and try to bring Iran and Saudia Arabia together and play constructive role rather than taking sides.