Tracking Yemen war: Torn Yemen bleeds in Saudi-Iran proxy war

Another country pays price for thanks to shia/sunni conflict between Iran & Saudi Arabia.

Torn Yemen bleeds in Saudi-Iran proxy war - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

DUBAI: Torn between a north controlled by Shia rebels and a south dominated by the embattled president’s allies, Yemen is mired in a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia, analysts say.

The struggle threatens to push the impoverished Arabian peninsula state further towards the abyss as the Sunni-Shia sectarian divide grows wider.

Amid the chaos, Al Qaeda militants are closing ranks with tribes of fellow Sunni Muslims to counter the expansion of the Shia Huthi rebels.

Take a look: UN calls for immediate ceasefire in Yemen

In an unprecedented show of force, the Iran-backed Huthis, who overran the capital Sanaa unopposed in September, last week staged military exercises near the border with Sunni-heavyweight Saudi Arabia.

“In the face of Iran’s Shia expansionism, Sunni solidarity is building, led by Saudi Arabia,” said one diplomat who requested anonymity.

The kingdom to the north has always played a prominent role in Yemeni politics.

It hosted negotiations that helped end a year of deadly nationwide protests and led to a deal that eased out president Ali Abdullah Saleh in 2012.

And following a request by President Abed Rabbo Mansour Hadi, Riyadh is again poised to broker talks aimed at ending Yemen’s latest political impasse.

When Hadi fled Huthi-imposed house arrest in Sanaa in February and resurfaced in Aden, Saudi Arabia was the first country to transfer its embassy there, in an open display of support for the beleaguered leader.

Tehran warning

Tehran has openly denounced moves to make the southern port Yemen’s temporary capital.

“Sanaa is the official and historical capital of Yemen and those in Aden who back disintegration or civil war are responsible for the consequences,” Iran’s deputy foreign minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian said last week.

He charged that Hadi, who once he reached Aden retracted a resignation tendered under duress in Sanaa, “would have done better to stay in Sanaa and keep to his resignation letter and not lead the country into crisis”.

April Longley Alley, Yemen specialist at the International Crisis Group, argues that Tehran has received a “huge political return for very little investment”.

“As Saudi Arabia hardens its stance against the Huthis and seeks to roll back their gains, the Huthis are likely to seek closer ties with countries like Iran,” she said.

This Tehran-Riyadh struggle is “both complicating and amplifying conflict in Yemen”, she said.

Saudi Arabia fears that the Huthis, who swept down from the north and expanded the area they control to the shores of the Red Sea, now have their sights set on the strategic Bab al-Mandab strait.

This would give Iran proxy control over the key waterway to and from the Suez Canal, adding to its already strong presence in the Gulf’s Strait of Hormuz through which much of the world’s oil passes.

Saudi switch

Fearing the rise of extremist Sunni Islamists, especially the Muslim Brotherhood, Riyadh stopped backing Yemen’s Al-Islah (Reform) party, thus giving the Huthis the upper hand, according to Lina Khatib, director of the Carnegie Middle East Centre.

“At one point Saudi Arabia favoured a Huthi domination [along the border] instead of the Muslim Brotherhood. Its role in Yemen then diminished, encouraging the Huthis to advance” south and seize large amounts of territory within weeks, she said.

The Huthi-run Saba news agency reported on Thursday that Iran will provide Yemen with crude oil for one year, and also establish a 165-megawatt power plant.

The agreement was made during a Huthi visit to the Islamic republic after an Iranian commercial flight landed in Sanaa on March 1 — the first in many years and the fruit of an aviation accord with Tehran.

The Huthis insist that Iran does not meddle in Yemeni affairs. “We’ve said it clearly: we reject all interference in our internal affairs, whether from Saudi Arabia, Iran or the United States,” said Huthi spokesman Mohammed Abdulsalam.

He accused Saudi Arabia of seeking to “create chaos” in Yemen.

“The risk of civil war or partition in Yemen” is increasingly raised in political circles, Khatib said.

Mohammad Sadeh Sadqian, head of the Centre for Arab Studies in Tehran, warned that the Saudi-Iran struggle for influence, already clear in Iraq and Syria, could have consequences elsewhere.

The struggle “could engulf other countries” if Riyadh and Tehran “do not sit around one table and discuss openly all points of dispute,” he said.

Published in Dawn March 17th , 2015

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Irans aggressive expansionist policies are adding fuel to the fire. Iranian troops are on the ground in Iraq & Syria. They are supporting huthis and destroying any prospects of deal between huthis and rest of political classes in Yemen.

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lol...oh the irony....so iran is the aggressor!

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I think, Bahrain is next.

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Ok you might have the ISIS angle in iraq (qassem sulaymani is there) and being neighbor and all, but what is iran's beef with syrian sunnis and them not getting a democracy where Assad will go just like what they got in iraq for shiites?

Sorry, but the iranian filth stinks like saudia. Only if there was a way that these two countries could eff each other without anyone else being affected.

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IS has claimed responsibility.

142 people dead :frowning:

…and Pentagon loses track of $500 million in weapons, equipment given to Yemen - The Washington Post

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and this is about 9 months ago: Yemen says 500 al Qaeda militants, 40 soldiers killed in campaign | Reuters

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In Yemen it is, huthis are a minority and they want to control the whole Yemen, despite efforts at mediation, they are not willing to relinquish power to civilian government.

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Interesting article which gives us some insight into this conflict, historically shias being a strong minority 42-47 % of Yemen which is growing due to recent conversions were being persecuted in the country. We can see the reaction in the shape of houthis.

Yemen’s Shia dilemma - Al Jazeera English

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and shows how much u know abt Houthis and wht the conflict is all abt.....houthi leader Adul Malik has made tv speech outlining the issues ...houthis do not want to "control whole of yemen" as put out simply by u...get to know what the cobflict is abt first....

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err, to start of with granddaughter of Prophet is buried in Syria and IsIs/Nusra have said it several times tht they want to blow up her shrine and dig out the body.....that is wht makes iranis, Iraqis, Afghan shia flock to damascus....nobody care abt assad as he is recognized as a dictator and a man of no morals when it comes to saving his throne...however show me the educated, organized, civlised opposition to him first....

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just this weekend my brother, 137 Shias are blown up in mosques of yemen....20 in iraq.....a few in Karachi mosque....and a couple of dozen in Syria....now wait for a shia reaction in retaliation on sunni mosque/market (u might have to wait till eternity, because there is hardly any).....if u can't c the diff bw how KSA and Iran operate then I have little time to waste on conversing. ...

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^
A tool of Iranian propaganda.

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Much the same like Altaf Hussein's speeches of we want peace, harmony and end of extortion in Karachi.

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err...ok

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Do Shias consider Bohras as a part of their sect?

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yes, definitely a sub-branch as they believe in the successorship of Ali son of Abu Talib and believe in the first 7 Imams before splitting into their own hierarchy of Imams....this is all besides point....main thing is that there is only one sub-school within Islam at large that not only calls for takfir and not only that but deem blood of anyone tht disagrees from them to be worthy of being slained without mercy and women 'halal' to be taken captive and enjoyed......that is the backward Salafis or Wahabism or Takfirism or whatever you call it or label it......who are Sauds? a badouin tribe tht was not long ago looters by profession......

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Iranian ship unloads 185 tons of weapons for Houthis at Saleef port

An Iranian ship unloaded more than 180 tons of weapons and military equipment at a Houthi-controlled port in western Yemen, Al Arabiya News Channel reported on Friday, quoting security sources…

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**Noam Chomsky on iSIS and who is responsible for its creation, idealogy, and finance; **

DB: The Middle East is engulfed in flames, from Libya to Iraq. There are new jihadi groups. The current focus is on ISIS. What about ISIS and its origins?

NC: There’s an interesting interview that just appeared a couple of days ago with Graham Fuller, a former CIA officer, one of the leading intelligence and mainstream analysts of the Middle East. The title is “The United States Created ISIS.” This is one of the conspiracy theories, the thousands of them that go around the Middle East.

But this is another source: this is right at the heart of the US establishment. He hastens to point out that he doesn’t mean the US decided to put ISIS into existence and then funded it. His point is — and I think it’s accurate — that the US created the background out of which ISIS grew and developed. Part of it was just the standard sledgehammer approach: smash up what you don’t like.

In 2003, the US and Britain invaded Iraq, a major crime. Just this afternoon the British parliament granted the government the authority to bomb Iraq again. The invasion was devastating to Iraq. Iraq had already been virtually destroyed, first of all by the decade-long war with Iran in which, incidentally, Iraq was backed by the US, and then the decade of sanctions.

They were described as “genocidal” by the respected international diplomats who administered them, and both resigned in protest for that reason. They devastated the civilian society, they strengthened the dictator, compelled the population to rely on him for survival. That’s probably the reason he wasn’t sent on the path of a whole stream of other dictators who were overthrown.

Finally, the US just decided to attack the country in 2003. The attack is compared by many Iraqis to the Mongol invasion of a thousand years earlier. Very destructive. Hundreds of thousands of people killed, millions of refugees, millions of other displaced persons, destruction of the archeological richness and wealth of the country back to Sumeria.

One of the effects of the invasion was immediately to institute sectarian divisions. Part of the brilliance of the invasion force and its civilian director, Paul Bremer, was to separate the sects, Sunni, Shi’a, Kurd, from one another, set them at each other’s throats. Within a couple of years, there was a major, brutal sectarian conflict incited by the invasion.

You can see it if you look at Baghdad. If you take a map of Baghdad in, say, 2002, it’s a mixed city: Sunni and Shi’a are living in the same neighborhoods, they’re intermarried. In fact, sometimes they didn’t even know who was Sunni and who was Shi’a. It’s like knowing whether your friends are in one Protestant group or another Protestant group. There were differences but it was not hostile.

In fact, for a couple of years both sides were saying: there will never be Sunni-Shi’a conflicts. We’re too intermingled in the nature of our lives, where we live, and so on. By 2006 there was a raging war. That conflict spread to the whole region. By now, the whole region is being torn apart by Sunni-Shi’a conflicts.

The natural dynamics of a conflict like that is that the most extreme elements begin to take over. They had roots. Their roots are in the major US ally, Saudi Arabia. That’s been the major US ally in the region as long as the US has been seriously involved there, in fact, since the foundation of the Saudi state. It’s kind of a family dictatorship. The reason is it has a huge amount oil.

Britain, before the US, had typically preferred radical Islamism to secular nationalism. And when the US took over, it essentially took the same stand. Radical Islam is centered in Saudi Arabia. It’s the most extremist, radical Islamic state in the world. It makes Iran look like a tolerant, modern country by comparison, and, of course, the secular parts of the Arab Middle East even more so.

It’s not only directed by an extremist version of Islam, the Wahhabi Salafi version, but it’s also a missionary state. So it uses its huge oil resources to promulgate these doctrines throughout the region. It establishes schools, mosques, clerics, all over the place, from Pakistan to North Africa.

An extremist version of Saudi extremism is the doctrine that was picked up by ISIS. So it grew ideologically out of the most extremist form of Islam, the Saudi version, and the conflicts that were engendered by the US sledgehammer that smashed up Iraq and has now spread everywhere. That’s what Fuller means.

Saudi Arabia not only provides the ideological core that led to the ISIS radical extremism, but it also funds them. Not the Saudi government, but wealthy Saudis, wealthy Kuwaitis, and others provide the funding and the ideological support for these jihadi groups that are springing up all over the place. This attack on the region by the US and Britain is the source, where this thing originates. That’s what Fuller meant by saying the United States created ISIS.

You can be pretty confident that as conflicts develop, they will become more extremist. The most brutal, harshest groups will take over. That’s what happens when violence becomes the means of interaction. It’s almost automatic. That’s true in neighborhoods, it’s true in international affairs. The dynamics are perfectly evident. That’s what’s happening. That’s where ISIS comes from. If they manage to destroy ISIS, they will have something more extreme on their hands.

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source of the above: The World of Our Grandchildren: Noam Chomsky discusses ISIS, Israel, climate change, and the kind of world future generations may inherit | Noam Chomsky interviewed by David Barsamian