Top 10 excuses by women who don’t wear the Hijab

Re: Top 10 excuses by women who don’t wear the Hijab

Sherafghan:

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JazakAllahu Khairun.
I hate to say this but you've misunderstood what I said.
Like I said, this is a rule from our Shariah and I didn't make this up myself. Scholars will tell you the same thing.

For the actions being halal until specifically made haraam, you can look at how halal and haraam in food works. In the Quran, Allah only tells us which foods are haraam and anything which doesn't fall into haraam is halaal.
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Well, your above statement is wrong. Quran tells of both Halal and Haram:

You wrote:

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In the Quran, Allah only tells us which foods are haraam and anything which doesn't fall into haraam is halaal.
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Who told you that? (please do not quote Quran without at least trying to read Quran yourself. Quran mentions Halal and Haram regarding foods at many places).

Actually, Quran mentions both halal and haram.

Read the following Ayahs: [Lawful = halal and forbidden = haram)

Quran:
Surah 5: ayah 1
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! fulfil (all) obligations. Lawful unto you (for food) are all four-footed animals, with the exceptions named: But animals of the chase are forbidden while ye are in the sacred precincts or in pilgrim garb: for Allah doth command according to His will and plan.

Surah 5: ayah 3
YUSUFALI: **Forbidden to you (for food) are: **dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah; that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows: that is impiety. This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear Me. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination to transgression, Allah is indeed Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

[Though by default, it is not regarding only food but regarding everything, is that, whatever is not clearly mentioned in Islam as forbidden (that includes Quran and Hadith) are allowed]

Regarding act of worship (Ibadah):

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With regards to acts of worship, first is you are thinking that fard and nafil are different acts of worship. I can do fard Salah or nafil Salah, they are both the same act of worship which is Salah.
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Obviously, they are different. One is obligatory and other is not :).

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A side note, fasting all year round is haraam. The most one is allowed to fast is every other day, ie. Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays, Sundays, and so on. We know this from the hadith narrated by Abdulluah bin Amr radiAllahuanhu where Muhammad salAllahualaihiwasallam told him to fast like Dawud alaihisalaam which was every other day. The same hadith talks about reading the Quran in 3 days or less is not allowed and so on.
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I do not know where you are learning Islam? Who told you that fasting continuously is haram and who told you that reading Quran in 3 days or less is not allowed? Anyone who told you that is only misguiding you. Only thing regarding fasting is that one should not put too much pressure on oneself beyond one can bare, thus it is recommended that instead of fasting continuously for too long, it is best to fast in short numbers. Fasting is only haram on few days, that is on Eid days (one day of Eid-ul-Azha and three days of Eid-ul-Zuha) and on doubtful day (that is 30th of Shabaan), that is all. As for Quran, there is nothing wrong in reading Quran within 3 days.

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So, by act of worship what is meant is something that was legislated in the Quran or Sunnah. These acts include salah, sawm, zakah, sadaqa, hajj, umra, dhikr, dua, etc. I cannot create a new act of worship. Going to the example of the people of Nuh alaihisalaam, they created idols of the righteous amongst them so that it would remind them of doing good deeds, some would say this was a good practise or a good innovation. A while later, possibly a few generations, this practise turned into idol worship. Even though this was done initially with good intentions and for the sake of Allah and it was a good practise, this in long run lead to shirk. My source on this is "Stories of the Prophets" by ibn Kathir.
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It seems that you are getting misguided by *edited* acting as Muslims, but their only purpose is to misguide innocent Muslims into kufr. I advice you that not to mix worshiping non-Muslims [like people of Nuh (AS)] and try to impose that on Muslims. People of Nuh (AS) was doing Shrik, and as long as a person is not involved in Shrik so do not compare them with Muslims.

Shrik is state of Iman (intention) where one believes that someone or something (be they dead or alive, idol or object) has its own power and can do a thing regardless of the will of Allah. No Muslim believes that any thing or object can do a thing without the will of Allah. To even think or accuse someone of shrik or compare them (who are Muslim and are not doing shrik) with mushrik, is kufr and make that accuser a Kafir.

Regardless, what you mentioned of acts that are mentioned in Quran and Sunnah, you should know that it is not necessary that all that is sunnah (used to be practiced by Prophet (SAW) and Sahabas) is recorded, rather most of it is coming to present day Muslims from generation to generation. Regardless, still even if it was recorded (though it was not), there is nothing wrong of an act as act of worship even if it was not practiced during the time of Prophet (SAW).

Actually, there are hundred of examples of action of ibadah (worship), that is present day act, never existed at the time of prophet (SAW), still they are act of worship to Allah (ibadah).

I will use few examples that even a layperson could understand those acts and would confirm that it is ibadah (because it is an act done for the sake of Allah).

Example: A medical surgeon doing necessary surgery free to needy, for the sake of Allah. His action of surgery is Ibadah. Anyone that thinks that it is not ibadah because such act was not even known during the time of Prophet (SAW) are misguided. What you think? Is his act of doing Surgery for sake of Allah, Ibadah or not?

[Note: I heard of a heart specialist (and heart surgeon) that goes to Pakistan (from USA) every now-and-then and does free surgery there for the sake of Allah (there are people in Karachi, who arranges everything for him before he gets there). All his visits are unpaid rather he takes medicine and other materials what he needs with him that he provides to the patient free. He considers that Ibadah, as his act is all dedicated to Allah. And, obviously his act is Ibadah and those who do not consider it Ibadah, is misguided]

A person opens an orphanage for sake of Allah. Is that ibadah or not? There is no mention of opening and orphanage during the time of prophet (SAW) or even later. During those days orphan were taken care by close relatives or someone volunteering adopting the orphans. Regardless, there is no mention of opening an orphanage in Quran or Hadith (where orphans are raised having no association of relationship with anyone looking after them). Anyhow, is opening an orphanage for sake of Allah, not ibadah (good deeds)?

Well, using internet to propagate Islam, if that is done with good intention and for the sake of Allah (and Islam) alone, is worship (ibadah). Now was this act of using internet to propagate Islam, an act that is mentioned in Quran or Hadith and if not, are this act not Ibadah?

Well, if you will go to real Ulema (not Ulema of **edited), they will tell you that anything good that one does for the sake of Allah (intention is to do a thing for Allah alone) than whatever that action be, that action is Ibadah (worship of Allah) regardless of that particular action was ever done by anyone before or not.**

Re: Top 10 excuses by women who don’t wear the Hijab

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Well, your above statement is wrong. Quran tells of both Halal and Haram:

You wrote:

Who told you that? (please do not quote Quran without at least trying to read Quran yourself. Quran mentions Halal and Haram regarding foods at many places).

Actually, Quran mentions both halal and haram.

Read the following Ayahs: [Lawful = halal and forbidden = haram)

Quran:
Surah 5: ayah 1
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! fulfil (all) obligations. Lawful unto you (for food) are all four-footed animals, with the exceptions named: But animals of the chase are forbidden while ye are in the sacred precincts or in pilgrim garb: for Allah doth command according to His will and plan.

Surah 5: ayah 3
YUSUFALI: **Forbidden to you (for food) are: **dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah; that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows: that is impiety. This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear Me. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination to transgression, Allah is indeed Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

[Though by default, it is not regarding only food but regarding everything, is that, whatever is not clearly mentioned in Islam as forbidden (that includes Quran and Hadith) are allowed]

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Can you please elaborate the same point on Apples, Mangoes, etc that would suffice Shers arguments.
Regarding act of worship (Ibadah):

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I do not know where you are learning Islam? Who told you that fasting continuously is haram and who told you that reading Quran in 3 days or less is not allowed? Anyone who told you that is only misguiding you. Only thing regarding fasting is that one should not put too much pressure on oneself beyond one can bare, thus it is recommended that instead of fasting continuously for too long, it is best to fast in short numbers. Fasting is only haram on few days, that is on Eid days (one day of Eid-ul-Azha and three days of Eid-ul-Zuha) and on doubtful day (that is 30th of Shabaan), that is all. As for Quran, there is nothing wrong in reading Quran within 3 days.

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You need to study the Hadith I am sorry and not sher, only Dawood alayhi salam fasted the most thats every alternate day. Well there is a hadith regarding this I exactly dont remember 3 men walked in and Hazrath Ayesha radiaAllaahuanhu was there one of them commented i will fast all days of the year which was disallowed by Prophet.
About the Quran its 3 days with out any doubt son of Amr bin Aas used to finish the Quran in 1 day or less so Prophet summoned him and after told him to finish it in 3 days coz you can better understand the Quran in 3 days.

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Regardless, what you mentioned of acts that are mentioned in Quran and Sunnah, you should know that it is not necessary that all that is sunnah (used to be practiced by Prophet (SAW) and Sahabas) is recorded, rather most of it is coming to present day Muslims from generation to generation. Regardless, still even if it was recorded (though it was not), there is nothing wrong of an act as act of worship even if it was not practiced during the time of Prophet (SAW).

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Well you can go ahead with it I pity our dear Prophet who has thought us everything before he died and Quran it states in 5:3 our religion is perfected 1400 years back. With your comments seems like Prophet had a deficiency that his Ummah wants to innovate worshipping.
Actually, there are hundred of examples of action of ibadah (worship), that is present day act, never existed at the time of prophet (SAW), still they are act of worship to Allah (ibadah).

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I will use few examples that even a layperson could understand those acts and would confirm that it is ibadah (because it is an act done for the sake of Allah).

Example: A medical surgeon doing necessary surgery free to needy, for the sake of Allah. His action of surgery is Ibadah. Anyone that thinks that it is not ibadah because such act was not even known during the time of Prophet (SAW) are misguided. What you think? Is his act of doing Surgery for sake of Allah, Ibadah or not?

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I hope you know waht you are talkign about prove it with Quran and Hadith, they are numerous e.g u can provide of the Sahabas.

Re: Top 10 excuses by women who don’t wear the Hijab

JazakAllahu Khairun SlaveofAllah.

Sa1eem why don’t you go talk to scholars before saying that I follow edited.
Don’t blame me for your lack of knowledge of fiqh, open up a book of fiqh and you’ll see the same thing. Read a book.
I can only guess that you are involved in some practise which goes against what I have stated and that’s why you are attacking me in such a way.

So like SlaveofAllah mentioned, where does it say in the Quran or Hadith that apples, oranges, mangoes are Halal or Haram?
And yes Halal and Haram is clear because we know clearly what is Haram, so everything else is Halal.
We know from Ahadith that wearing gold, silver, and silk for men is Haram, what about other things like cotton, polyester, or other clothes. How do we know that these other fabrics are Halal?
No matter how hard you search, you will not be able to find an Ayaah or a Hadith stating these things specifically.

My Prophet Muhammad salAllahualaihiwasallam said that fasting all year round is haram and that reading all of Quran in 3 days is haram. My Prophet was not an extremist, he followed the middle way even in acts of worship. He didn’t observe fast continuously, he didn’t pray all night continuously.
What you are referring to is monasticism, in arabic it’s called Rahbaniyyah and it’s been made haram for this ummah.
Some of the ahadith relating to this topic can be found here

This is a link to Riyadh us Saliheen, and the title of the chapter is “Moderation in Worship”.
Read it, it will definitely be of benefit to you inshaAllah. The ahadith I was referring to are quoted here as well.

Sa1eem, your questions about Ibadah are not relating to Ibadah.
Propagating Islam is called Da’wah, and that is Ibadah. And to do Da’wah in Halal ways will be rewarded by Allah inshaAllah.
(Auozobillah) What if I said that I am going to go to a strip club and do da’wah to the strippers, do you think Allah will reward me for that?
Absolutely not, even if I am sincere, Allah will not reward me for this because I would be doing Da’wah in a haram setting.

The Deen of Allah is far better than what you are associating with it. It is complete, 100%. The Prophet told us every detail, he told us how to use the toilet and how to clean ourselves, he told us how to have relations with our spouses. This should be indication enough that the Prophet didn’t leave anything out.
It is an insult to think that Muhammad salAllahualaihiwasallam didn’t tell us all the ways of worshipping Allah. This is an insult to the Prophet, to the Deen, and to Allah.
Do you think that you know some Ibadah that the Prophet did not know?
Are you getting Wahee that the Prophet did not get (Auozobillah)?

Think about what you say before you say it.
And yes, those people who have invented new ways of Ibadah are wrong, and they are sinners.

Re: Top 10 excuses by women who don’t wear the Hijab

SlaveofALlah and Sherafghan:
First you both read my mail (what I wrote) carefully, understand it and ponder before commenting :)

It would be much better that if you both comment, comment after reading and understanding what is written as commenting without reading, understanding or knowing what a person has written is ignornace:D

Actually, if you will read carefully and intelligently, you will find that what you both written are appropriately answered already in my previous posts.

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They are scores of individuals who come, and try to innovate things into the religion, yes thanks for praising yourself as intelligent. Well its good to know your intelligent and I ask Allaah to increase your knowledge ten folds Ameen.

Yes we are ignorant with any individuals who wants to innovate his own understanding, into the religion we dont mind reading what you have written, but problem is when you want to put your beliefs down to our throat.

Well if it was the Quran or Hadith i will accept it though it goes against my desire and, well you have explained stuff in great detail i would be happy if you cud back it up with Quran and Sunnah:D

Well you commented about new way of Ibadah, I agree and you says its not innovation, Well you say we can fast everyday or otherway round if you are capable enough you can fast clearly disregarding Hadith of the Prophet. You stated Quran can be finished in less than 3 days again contradicting the Hadith of the Prophet.

Well you expect us to sift, well we have done it and replied. But for sure we are ignorant against any Propehtic tradition which is a clear cut bida'h. Alhamdullillaah that Allaah is raised you above us in status of Intelligence.

*Hypothetical situation, if there was an accident and If a man dies and if the Prophet says it wasnt an accident but was Murder, I will believe the Prophet though I have seen the accident in front of my eyes. *

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This is what we call blind faith.

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This is what is called blind faith and I dont mind accepting it. This blind faith was only achieved after 2 years analysis, research and logical reasoning. Well I have believed in the Quran which was revealed to Prophet, so is it a big wonder which comes anyting after that.

1) I achieved Islam is a true religion

2) I was an agnostic, I reasoned out myself, I had set my own benchmark but now Ihave all my answers I dont mind loving the Prophet more then myself after I have concluded through rational reasoning, truth arrives and falsehood perishes.

Well thanks, i am happy you called me it was blind faith, but I was only successful to achieve this blind faith after my own reasoning. Well can anyone believe through reasoning an individual is awarded blind faith. But its only blind faith towards Quran and Prophetic saying, not anyone else on earth how sad:(

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And part and parcel of Islam too...

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No, blind faith is not part and parcel of Islam.

Logically, if you blindly believe, you technically do not believe. Because if you don't understand what you claim you "believe", then how can you "believe" it to be true?

Personally knowing something to be true = belief
If you have no criterion for separating truth from falsity, you don't have grounds for a belief.

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oh my god :rotfl: :rotfl: this thread is so funny sab non hijabans ko AAG lag rahi hea i mean comon stop defending ur self its not like the guy who made this thread will be able to force u wear one :omg: just chill out. plz dont eat me i have thoghtand i would like to share it everyone is why do girls bother to cover their head wen they go 2 musjid if u think u are not ready then why u force urself to wear 1 while going musjid i mean go to musjid bare head i think allha:swt: will understand this cos he loves us alot
1 more thing covring head is an order wheras keeping beard is a sunha

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covering up some mouths should be fardh instead.

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^I like this......good timely discussion.

Ramadhan Mubarak.

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:cb: I agree PyariCgudia.
Personally I think a woman’s modestly lies within her.God does not regard the outward appearance.

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:cb: No wonder why they go astray with outer beauty :wink:

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Outer beauty isnt dictated by women alone, men are as much a part of what qualifies as "beauty" as women!

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:biggthumb

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Please refrain from derailing the thread any further.

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lol, in pakistan if u where a hijab the boys will look more deeper to watch whats inside the hijab :p any way that was a yoke and something i really saw...

Once again, Allah (subhana wa'tala) first looks at our hearts, there are many girls who wear hijab, but wear very tight clothes, or dont pray or do bad things, or look like theyre very holy but inside them hides something else.. ... I dont wear hijab, but have respect for the girls who do, i guess girls who wear hijab they also must accept seeing a girl who doesnt wear hijab... cause u cant force someone to wear, the person has to be prepared to wear one,

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Thks for sharing, someof these excuses are very true (in the way that women answer the same thing)
And in my point of view, the main reason is that we are too far about our religion, we don't really know what is our religion. When I read the 6 th excuse about the attention from guys I'm choked that it's logical that women don't have to get attention from guys !

Well if someone can get the right path it's a good thing

May Allah show us the right way to achieve our faith. Ameen

Re: Top 10 excuses by women who don’t wear the Hijab

With the signature image you have, I guess you are not worried about hijab or niqab anyway … :rotfl: