You do.
Mind giving us the website?
Also here is a hadith:
Mohammad(SAW) said: *“Whoever hangs up an amulet is guilty of shirk.” *
(Reported by Ahmad, 4/156; see also Silsilat al-Saheehah, no. 492).
I think X-comm has a lot in commen with Watcher as both DONT GET the spirituality of Islam!!!
By the way X-comm are you really watcher?
Here is another one:
Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As:
*I heard the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) say: If I drink an antidote, or tie an amulet, or compose poetry, I am the type who does not care what he does. * (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 28: 3860)
haha shah jahan...dont worry, i dont follow coolguy/azam's footsteps.....calm down adn relax...no watcher here.
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Originally posted by X_Communist:
**Here is another one:
Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As:
*I heard the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) say: If I drink an antidote, or tie an amulet, or compose poetry, I am the type who does not care what he does. * (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 28: 3860)
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As for the sahihs we have already seen the wrong filled in them.
*Is not the Quran full of Poetry?
*So we should not cure ourselves coz drinking Antidotes are haram
*Now to tying Amultes. Seeking nearness to Allah is not a bad thing and If we seek nearness to Allah thruogh somthing tied around our necks so what is wrong in that!
Quran is great and holds alot that we dont precive!
shah buddy, how can i make this simple.....I've posted up Quranic AYAHS regarding this issue...they were interpreted by different people in different VIEWS....
now if i post up a hadith, its from my belief...no one is asking you (as a shia') to believe it because you wont,,,you already have your al-kafi, rite?...ok
as for the sunni muslims, they believe in teh sahah sattah....therefore they do not regard the sahih bukhari as "wrongly filled" , clear?...good....
lastly the antitodes and the medicine stuff, has more hadiths on them but i dont want to bother posting them up for you because u'll just regard them as 'wrongly filled' again...making my work...hmm..worthless...
Where are you going?? this is your topic:
Topic: (())To those who oppose, It is Permissible to say Ya Muhammad as for what Sahabah did
Don't go left and right! I've had enough with your swinglings! All of you wahabies!! Because you think you understand the Qur'an more than true Scholars did!! YOu think Sahabah are not qualified when your leader opposes!! Allahu Akbar. What is that verse you mentioned? Please do not post any verses unless you tell everyone its interpertation by Abdullah Bi ^Abbas or any other true interepeter for Al Qur'an, because you sound so straight saying verses from Al Qur'an using them in the wrong place just like you want. Quick Copy Ayah Paste Ayah, what does it mean? let me see.!!! What does it mean? go learn from the scholars what it means. No you can't understand Al Qur'an nor can I without learing it's meanings from the scholars.
I have mentioned the eveidence in the books that every Muslim person knows about, and now you are not accepting them!! Be reasonable for the sake of Allah will you!
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Originally posted by Shah Jahan:
**A.G I have always respected your posts as they are filled(brimfull) with truth and amazing sense of grammer(and now i know you can also Cut people down to size)
Moving on to the topic!
This has been very interesting as We use the word INTERCADE for blessings from Allah. We do not ask from them BUT we do ask through them! **
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Brother, Thanx. it's clear enough only for those who fear Allah and are knowledgable enough to distinguish between truth and falsehood.
ahmad i go left and right because the people you say “subhanallah” to lead me that way…
moreover…im wondering who brought the topic of wahabis in here any way!!
http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/rolleyes.gif
as far as you providing solid proofs…plz check and TRY to read my posts as i TRY to read yours…
as far as..wahabies…what is wrong with their beliefs???i dont find anything wrong!(and im not one)
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It’s not how fast you were GOING, It’s how fast you STOPPED!**
You tell me what's wrong with this.
Look how Wahhabies and jews are related to beliefs.
The Jews say in their book "safar Youhanna al Is-hah" (4) number (9) jews say: "and praise to the one who is sitting on his throne al Haiyy.." So they believe Allah is in the sky sitting wal ^iyathoubillah.
Wahhabies say in their book "Majmoo^ Al Fatawah" 4th book, p/374 for ibn taymiah and he is their imam as they call him the master of Islam!! they say: "Allah seats Muhammad the on the chair with Him"!!! Which is clear Kufur to say such. That is not Islam.
Jews say in the same book number 26-27: "God said, we will make human on our look and format".. Look like God!!
Wahhabies say in the book called “Ahl Al Iman fi khalq adam”.. Authored by Hamood bin ^abdillah at-Tuwayjariyy.. Page 40: Wahhabies say: "Allah created humans looking like him (^ala Surati wajhihi)" A^outhubillah!! Allah said in Al Qur'an: [Nothing resembles Allah]..
Jews say in the same book page 4: "the lord is the father living in the sky"
Wahhabiah say in the book called "Rad al-Darmy ^ala bash-shar Al Mircy" and it is one of the their references p/82: Wahhaby author says: "Yes, He (Allah) is on his throne on top of the creations on the highest place"!! I seek refuge by Allah. Imam ^aliy said: "Allah existed and there was no place and now he exists as he was" that is without a place because Allah does not need the place. Allah does not need any of his creations. He exists without place does not look like any of his creations. Although some translated the Qur'an in some verses alleging their meanings wrongfully saying that Allah sits on the throne, that’s impossible, because Allah existed before the throne and he was without any place.
This is a very few of what Al Wahhabiya say.
Al-Albaniyy (Big leader of the wahhabies, died recently Al Hamdulillah) says: it's Kufur for the Palestinians to stay in Palestine"!! Look at Al-Liwa' Newspaper date 7/7/93 and book: "Fatawi Al Albaniy" p/18... Why did he say that? Ask them.
Also Al wahhabiah say that the believers other than them(!) are Kuffar and they are worthy of being slayed and their property and women and children are halal to be taken even though they praise the people of Shirk and the jews and the Mushriks of Quraysh who faught the Prophet Sallallahu ^alayhi wassallam and opposed him such as Abi Lahb and Abi Jahl, for, they are believers to wahhabies and they claim that they are most pious and sincere to Allah more than the ones who make tawassul and tabarruk to the Awliya’. Not only they had that belief, but they also wrote it and put in a book called “How do we understand Tawheed” Authored by Ahmad Bashmeel and it was distributed in Ridad year 1987.
And they declared blasphemy to the leaders of the four Madahib (As-Shafi^iy, Abu Hanifah, Malik and Ahmad bin Hanmbal) and to the followers of the four Madhahib. Yes they had the guts to say such ugly things. Look in their book “Ad-Deen Al Khalis” p/140 printed in Beirut/Lebanon.!!! Allahu-Akbar. Why? Ask them. Check the reference.
Want more? I don’t, but I shall give you more until you know who wahhabies are.
Al Wahhabiah say that lady eve is Kafirah!! And so they said that all humans are Children of Zina – Adultery!!! look into the same book p/160 Al wahhabiah say: “the truth that Shirk started from Lady eve (Hawwa’ wife of Prophet Adam).. I can not say more!!.
To them if you say “Astaghfirullah” (O Allah Forgive me) is haram!! Look at Magazine “Al Aman issue# 70 year 1980 p/20.!!
And they even went ahead and made takfeer (Blasphemed) a sahabiyy, a companion of the Prophet Aby Ayouub Al Ansaraiyy because he put his face on the grave Prophet Muhammad because he was visiting the grave of the Prophet excitedly to the Prophet. And that wahhabiy who made that takfeer teaches in Jordan. A man once told him why:? Why do you do that?! Al Wahhabiy said: “even if Muhammad (He means Prophet Muhammad the son of ^Abdullah) did that than the Prophet Blasphemed”!!!!! Allahu-Akbar, Allahu-Akbar, Allahu-Akbar. Astaghfiruka Rabiyy wa Atoobu Ilayk. A^outhu Billah.
And they say about Al Asha^irah and Al Maturidiayh (Whom are the Top Scholars of Ahlus-Sunnah) they say: “They are Kuffar.. “…!
If you want to know the truth about Muhammad bin ^abdilwahhab and his people, just read what his father and his brother and the people of his country say about him. His father was a true scholar as well as his brother and his father used to say “this child (about Muhammad bin ^abdilwahhab) will be a great danger to Muslims”..
And His brother Sheikh Sulaiman Bin ^abdilwahhab, may Allah have mercy on them because they were great scholars, Sheikh Sulaiman made a book called “ AL Sawa^iq Al Illahiyyah to refute the wahhabiayh” and in it he said to his brother and his followers: “However you have taken things by your own opinion and thoughts and you have opposed the Ijma^ and declared all of the Ummah of Prophet Muhammad as Kuffar”. Look into that book page 17. They blaspheme everyone who opposes them and they try to kill him. And that’s because of the orders that Muhammad bin Abdilwahhab got from his teacher Hempher the British spy!!.
As Hempher mentions in page 77 that the first bill between the treaties that happened between him and Muhammad bin ^abdilwahhab is: “To Blaspheme all Muslims, and to bid killing them and to take their money and to commit whatever unlawful with their women and to sell them..” Second bill: “to destroy Al Ka^bah claiming that it’s from the signs of the Idols…” Read the Book: “Hempher the British spy”..
And to prove that they are Wahhabies and that the name fits them is what was mentioned in a book they wrote by the name “Muhamad Bin ^abdilwahhab, his Salafi creed” .. it says: “when he met with the wahhabies in Makkah”.. and he says: “but the Wahhaby belief..” and: “They use Islam as a religion on the Wahhaby creed..”..
Another leader named Muhammad bin jameel, a wahhabiy lecturer in our holy Makkah says: “Wahhabiy from Wahhab, and it’s from the names of Allah..” and there he lied because wahhabiy from Muhammad bin Abdilwahhab the deviator.. Also they named a book called “The wahhabiy movement”
So, Al wahhabiyah are the enemies of Muslims and the lovers of the jews and blasphermers. I can not say more. If any think of what was mentioned above about wahabies to be normal let me know so I can avoid talking to him because there would be no use. You would argue with a jew or a chrestian about prayers! you would argue about beliefs in the true God.!!
Too silent! is anyone ready to defend ^Aqidah of Ahlussunnah? what do you have to say about these quotes!!!
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If you want to know the truth about Muhammad bin ^abdilwahhab and his people, just read what his father and his brother and the people of his country say about him. His father was a true scholar as well as his brother and his father used to say “this child (about Muhammad bin ^abdilwahhab) will be a great danger to Muslims”..
And His brother Sheikh Sulaiman Bin ^abdilwahhab, may Allah have mercy on them because they were great scholars, Sheikh Sulaiman made a book called “ AL Sawa^iq Al Illahiyyah to refute the wahhabiayh” and in it he said to his brother and his followers: “However you have taken things by your own opinion and thoughts and you have opposed the Ijma^ and declared all of the Ummah of Prophet Muhammad as Kuffar”. Look into that book page 17. They blaspheme everyone who opposes them and they try to kill him. And that’s because of the orders that Muhammad bin Abdilwahhab got from his teacher Hempher the British spy!!.
As Hempher mentions in page 77 that the first bill between the treaties that happened between him and Muhammad bin ^abdilwahhab is: “To Blaspheme all Muslims, and to bid killing them and to take their money and to commit whatever unlawful with their women and to sell them..” Second bill: “to destroy Al Ka^bah claiming that it’s from the signs of the Idols…” Read the Book: “Hempher the British spy”..
And to prove that they are Wahhabies and that the name fits them is what was mentioned in a book they wrote by the name “Muhamad Bin ^abdilwahhab, his Salafi creed” .. it says: “when he met with the wahhabies in Makkah”.. and he says: “but the Wahhaby belief..” and: “They use Islam as a religion on the Wahhaby creed..”..
Another leader named Muhammad bin jameel, a wahhabiy lecturer in our holy Makkah says: “Wahhabiy from Wahhab, and it’s from the names of Allah..” and there he lied because wahhabiy from Muhammad bin Abdilwahhab the deviator.. Also they named a book called “The wahhabiy movement”
So, Al wahhabiyah are the enemies of Muslims and the lovers of the jews and blasphermers. I can not say more. If any think of what was mentioned above about wahabies to be normal let me know so I can avoid talking to him because there would be no use. You would argue with a jew or a chrestian about prayers! you would argue about beliefs in the true God.!!
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masha-Allah good research brother Ahmed G and good defense of aqaid-e-ahle sunnah. May Allah keep us all safe from filth of wahabis!
ameen.
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Originally posted by Azam:
** masha-Allah good research brother Ahmed G and good defense of aqaid-e-ahle sunnah. May Allah keep us all safe from filth of wahabis!
ameen.
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Barakallahu feek brother, Al hamdulillah for his mercy on us that he always saved the truth and preserved it by scholars of Islam that remained memorizers of hadiths and facts that can never lie whom than passed to us and remained there to protect us.
I see no one replying, Maybe they are SHOCKED with the references when they checked and saw them.. The truth is out there, right there, Allah is your only guider.
Brother Azam, Barakallahu Feek.
For others, still Waiting!!
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Originally posted by X_Communist:
**as far as..wahabies...what is wrong with their beliefs???i dont find anything wrong!(and im not one)
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I'm still waiting for your falsifications as you claim for my prooves.
After mentioning and posting with references about wahabies fulfilling your request, and I hope that you are still checking the references not being silent, if you say you are not a wahaby and you love the creed of Ahlus-Sunnah and you are not an innovator and that you are willing to stand for the truth no matter how bitter it is, WHY DON'T YOU PROTECT OUR CREED RIGHT NOW? UNLESS YOU ARE AGREEING WITH THESE BELIEFS THAT I QUOTED ABOUT WAHABIES WITH THE QUICK REFERENCES, if you are truly holding the truth, you would stand up clearing Islam from Quotes like these mentioned previously!!. Subhanaka Rabiyy.
jazakAllah brother. We are really fortunate to have you here. You are able to unwrap some bitter facts about Wahabis
how does every thread turn into an anti-wahabi thing???
you guyz need to relax and take a look at the other post by salman...some wahabi thougths in there..check em out..