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[quote]
Originally posted by The Watcher:
** Hey Ahmad G, I checked your pathetic hadiths, they are all fake, fabricated. Its ramazan man, shame on you. You couldn't stop your self from lying in this holy and glorious month? Its sad to see, how people like you lie and deceive others.
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Brothers and sisters, allow me to answer.
Wacher, you are a lier. You are a kathib and I swear to Allah that You lied and that you have not checked the references. I'm certain, that's why I swore. By the name of Allah I swear, that you did not check the references to these sayings and Ahadiths because you are a lier. You are a huge wahhabi lier.

I seek refuge from Allah for your insult. You are fasting stop the stuborness and lies.

How could they be fabricated while I GOT THEM FROM THE BOOKS THAT ARE REFERENCES TO THESE SCHOLARS!! YOU ARE A HUGE LIER, YOU WILL NEVER PUT IT LOW BECAUSE ALLAH MADE YOUR HEART LIKE THAT. But out of pitty I ask Allah to guide you.

Allahumma Inny Sa'im, Inny Sa'im.
O Allah I'm fasting, I'm fasting.
On the day of judgment you will be the loser as you are now.

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watcher is really making a fool of himself infront of everyone...ahmed g u r right..wahabis r really a virus..he can fool the innocent and gullible people but not the people with some knowledge of their religion

Watcher is a BS artist..thats all he is..his signature is full of BS..he has got nothing better to do then BS..God, please show such morons the path to the truth

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agreed

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narae risalat
ya rasool Allah

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feel sorry for the wahabis who consider reciting “naat (praise of Prophet s.a.w.w)” haram. Naat and qawwali are the true feelings of one’s inner soul and love for Prophet (s.aw)!

ya rasool Allah!

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[quote]
Originally posted by Cool Guy:
**feel sorry for the wahabis who consider reciting "naat (praise of Prophet s.a.w.w)" haram. Naat and qawwali are the true feelings of one's inner soul and love for Prophet (s.aw)!

ya rasool Allah!

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I feel sorry for wahhabies being wahhabies period.

Ya Rasoolallahh Ya Habiballah Ya Muhammad. Madadd Ya Allah.

Brothers thank you all.

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Masha-Allah brother Ahmed G. subhanAllah for your sweet words of love for our dear Prophet (s.a.w.)!

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Brothers and sisters, and friends, and everyone, to show how much Muslims do love the Prophet and the Na^at, or Madeeh or Islamic chants are lawful Praising Allah Praising the Prophet and Praising Alul-Bayt and sahabah, this is the best radio station that has the bigest collection of Islamic Multimedia, go and check it and come back and tell who ever says Na^at is haram, how much Na^at is lawful and sweet to the ears.
http://www.2mcr.com/html/madih.html

Everyone check it out now and distribute it, because Muslims are hungry to hear the praises of the Prophet. And tell us what you think.

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masha-Allah a very good site. I just checked it

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[quote]
Originally posted by Ahmad G:
**
...Sayf from Bishr bin Al Fadeel from Jubayr bin Sakhr bin ^Assim bin ^Umar Bin Al Khattab may Allah be please with him that a man from Muzyanah in the year of Ar-Ramad, ...

...^Umar and said

....the saying of Al Miziyy and he is Bilal Bin Al Harith…

...the saying of Bilal Bin Al Harith: “Ya Muhammadah” and no one opposed him or objected to him,

... Imam ^Umar

... know that according the many Islamic contexts and proves that Prophets ..

... And one of the proves to that... what was mentioned by Prophet Muhammad sallallahu ^alyhi wassallam what means: “The Prophets are alive in their graves praying” ...

....Imam Al Bayhaqiyy said that this is a Sahih hadith in Juz’ “the life of the Prophets” ....

...and was it was reported by Al-Hafith ibn Hajar that this hadith is thabit

...in the book “Fath Al Bary” and this

...a second hadith related by Al Bayhaqiyy and Al Hakim that the Prophet said what means: “Allah forbade for earth to decay the bodies of the Prophets” ...

...Al Hafith Abdil-Haq Al Ishbily said that it was a sahih hadith as mentioned in “Al Ithaf” book for Al Zabidy...

...it has been mentioned from Ibn ^abass said: “Prophet Ibrahim ^layhis-Salam ..

...Ibn Hajar said it is a Sahih Hadith mentioned in “Fath Al Bari”...

....even though Ibn Hajar who’s worthy, said that it is sahih...

..And know that every thing that does not comply with the Qur’an and the Sunnah of the Prophet Sallallahu ^alayhi wassallam is not accepted even if it was thousands of things. So be aware brothers and sisters and be cautious for what benefits you, for, the truth is best to be followed...

O Allah We ask you to grant us the Islamic Knowledge and increase it and we seek refuge from the status of the people of Hellfire.**
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Subhanallah look at the references brothers and sisters in Islam, We have mentioned hadiht, the name of the sahabahiyy (Companion), the name of the scholar, the name of the book and the part of the book and the status of the hadith whether Sahih, Hassan, and Weak and who said that about it's status, Islam is not lost nor changed.

And after all of that, you get a person saying: "All of them are wrong"!! All of them committed shirk?!! All of them inclding the Prophet of Allah!!?! Shame, all except Muhammad Bin ^Abdilwahhab?! And Ibn Taymiah?! the problem is that they are contradictive.

Allahumma Lakalhamd.
And Allah knows best.

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Now is so-called wacher’s new signature is:

V~V~VHe came, He saw, He Lied, He argued, He’s refuted, And defeatedV~V~V

----Priest-OF- Painful Lies----

May Allah Guide Him.

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muahhahahahahahahahahhahaha

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Good one

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Watcher, All we are trying to do here is discuss Islam from Al Qur'an as conveyed by the Prophet Sallallahu ^alayhi wassallm who taught the Sahabah Al Kiram this knowledge, than As-Sahabah delivered that knowledge to the scholars of Islam and they are distinguished and qualified scholars to name a very few of them:

  • The Leaders of the Four Schools (MaDhahib)
  • The owners of the six distinguished books
  • Abu Ja^far At-Tahawiyy
  • Thun-Noon Al Misriyy
  • Al Imam Abul-Hassan Al Ash^ariyy
  • Al Imam Abu Mansur Al Baghdadiyy
  • and many many others. Millions on the same creed and belief...

Every scholar must be qualified for the scholarship by other qualified scholars all the way back to sahabah. And none oppose Qur'an, Sunnah nor Ijma^. And your leaders have oppose Ijma^. For ibn Taymiah, he had opposed Ijma^ in over sixty Islamic Issues, and Islamically it's kufur to oppose Ijma^.

So out of advice and pitty onto yourself, give it up, live that belief that you have that is brought from no where and fix your self. Follow the true role models.

That's all I can say to you because you have been refuted on every single issue you opened and they are several. And Allah is my wittness.

Allah knows best.

[This message has been edited by Ahmad G (edited November 30, 2000).]

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ahmed g is a sunni brother and thats what he has to say about this wahabi fitna

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hey guys how do u like my new signature

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Now is so-called watcher’s new signature is:

                *V~V~V*He came, He saw, He Lied, He argued, He's refuted, And defeated*V~V~V*
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                -_-_-_-Priest_-OF- _Painful Lies-_-_-_-

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[This message has been edited by Sherazz (edited November 30, 2000).]

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Sherazz, The Watcher, Cool Guy,

Change your signature otherwise your posts will be deleted in their entirety.

Sherazz, Ahmad_G,

Comments that only serve the purpose of petty, superficial arguments are not appreciated. That goes for everyone.

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I have GFQ, very long time ago.

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V~V~VHe came, He saw, He conqueredV~V~V**

----*Priest-OF- Painful Truth*----

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Admin, we will insh'llah be under the cooperation. I would like to tell you that there is nothing personal at all, however, it’s very important for us to preserve our creed, that's I’m not tolerating the falsehood.

And so-called watcher, I don't know why you ended up with one sentence in this reply!! Before, when you thought no one here had the time to stop your fabrications, you used to have pages of copy and paste and at the end you would say, I would only do sunnah, tell me where Prophet Muhammad said that, where scholars mentioned.. and when you got it all very very clearly from Al Qur'an and Sunnah and from the books of the qualified scholars, you did not accept it!!!. Than you said: references mostly are wrong!!. but you lied thinking that you are going to fool me and the readers. Than you said, all of the hadiths!!…You lied again and when you found out that I had taken proves from the references mentioned, you were shocked and that's when you kept silent. You lied, you didn't do what you've been promising everyone to do, and that is when there's a proof about something you will follow it, not only you rejected it, but you also, after that tried to belie me
by alleging that references are all wrong.

What you should have done, is say: Brother Ahmad, I see what you have been saying, it is so truthful, but I need to look into that and see and learn from the books of scholars (Not wahhaby books nor Jewish) and than I will tell you what happened how wrong I was, and that I will change and leave falsehood and repent from the wrong creed and return to the true creed of the millions of Muslims. But you went and made a FOOL out of yourself by disrespecting the hadith and by remaining stubborn.

That's all I will say to you, and whenever I see you replying to me or to anyone, with lies and fabrications and things opposing the religion, I will be there to clear your mess out and to remind you of the posts that you ran away defeated from.

I still say may Allah ta^ala guide you because I love what’s best for you, for us all.May Allah guide us all.