To those who are ashamed of being Pakistanis or related to Pakistan or Muslims...

[diwana]

Re: To those who are ashamed of being Pakistanis or related to Pakistan or Muslims…

@Balthier

The premises you set for your question are based on the perception you have of the issue. Since I am of opinion that your perception is incorrect, you can not expect me to provide an answer based on those premises. You have to realize that the premise you put forth, is not an undeniable fact, but rather a subjective opinion.

If you read my earlier replies, you will see that I have already answered your question. And I am being consistent.

Some things aren’t meant to be interpreted literally. If someone says “we must stop preaching hatred against non-muslims in our societies, because that’s leading to feelings of resentment against non-muslims”, it does not mean said person is actually preaching hatred. It simple means that said person is acknowledging that this is occurring in a society he feels a part of. And he acknowledges that this is something the society has to deal with as a collective.

If an America citizen says “we must stop bombing innocent people in Pakistan”, it does not mean he is actually participating in the bombing. He just wants the society to deal with the issue as a collective, because that’s the only way you can deal with the issue.

Like I said, a discussion on semantics is rarely productive. I also consider this discussion to have been brought to a conclusion on my part, since I don’t see the need to repeat my views.

In red part. You made wrong conclusion from what I have been saying all along.

I never said people who say ‘we’, ‘us’ or ‘our own’ are ‘preaching’ criminal behavior or hatred.

You gave wrong example of an American saying what you wrote.

If a country citizen says that for a country’s govt. act that person is a citizen of that country.

if an individual says terrorists somehow have relationship to all of those who that person belongs to, then that individual is plain and simple wrong.

Meaning, that person does not have any right to include everyone who he claims to be, i.e. a Pakistani or a Muslim.

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Saying ‘we’, ‘us’ or ‘our’ own gives more ammunition to anti-Pakistanis and anti-Muslims since then, they will say to an otherwise peaceful person: Look Look! your ‘own’ people are saying criminals/terrorists belong to you".

ISIS is not a country, Boko haram do not represent a country, mob who kill a non-Muslim, and terrorists cannot be considered equivalent to a country’s act. Hence, your example about an American was wrong.