To the Directors

Gupshup is a wonderful place to come GS with one exception - The Religion forum. I think you should seriously consider putting out a poll in General to see for yourselves the overwhelming dissatisfaction with that forum:

“Do you avoid the Religion forum due to its single-mindedness?”

It is actually a very unpleasant place to go and its very rare that one can have a mature discussion without being accused of lying and/or “making generalizations” (negative ones) when YOUR view isnt in agreement with the MODS view.

There should be TWO forums, one for discussion of religions of the world and one for hardcore Islaamists.

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That does sound like a possible solution. Might work.

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ya nailed it mama!

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Mamaji,

what are “hardcore Islaamists”?

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just think of the outrage when trying to define what exactly "hardcore Islamist is" and who they actually are

who's going to do it...will there be a committee?

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What’s the meaning of your is is?

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ok, lets clarify and tone it down:

Forum 1 Religions of the World
Forum 2 Islaam Only

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Quick question Mamof3: What are you are going to discuss in religions of the world in that forum 1 and with whom? Will you have enough audience and participants from gupshup membership?

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i think the religious forum should be there.. and guys you can still continue to post ur views,, negative or positive.. afterall rwelogion is an intyegral part of our lives.. but we all perieve it differently

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^^^you have a spelling problem ...like meeeee...

LI...I duddent put that IS there...ist snucked in

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How about if we ask the esteemed GS directors to create forums for all religions...you know...Christianity, Judiasim, Islam, Buddhism, etc etc...Will that be ok to please one and all. Here is a simple truth...if people can learn to not engage in name calling and degrading others (myself included ---albeit reluctantly) we can live with the religion forum as is.

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Whatever happened to the moratorium?

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MO3..I am guessing you don't post in World or PA :p...in life don't expect only sane conversations on religion, sports and politics..

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yes lazu i have a spelling problem, aur boss sai chup kar chatting karna bhee problem.

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Kaleem, I respectfully disagree with you. If there were a "religions of the world" forum, the posters would likely be the more mature posters who are looking for discussion and exploration of different beliefs. While the Islaam ONLY forum would contain the immature and intolerant posters who make the current Religion forum such a distasteful place to visit.

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Splitting may be ok but will be an admission that the administration prefers to isolate and reduce the problem of partiality and conflicted moderation (a complaint I see expressed a few times) rather than dealing with it fully.

Is a religion forum really necessary?

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So when the members' views aren't in accord with the Religion forum moderators, Religion forum moderators accuse them of being liars and/or pass nasty comments about how the members are generalizing too much?

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Sadyah and Mughal are The best pair we ever have... let them do the right work!
No need of any physical changes!

There is nothing called hardcore shardcore...

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OK the idea of creating two sub forum under religion is not bad at all. But let me ask you guys a question, what kind of Islaam would you be discussion in the Islaam forum? Let see what choices do we have:

Islam does not have nearly as many sects and divisions as does Christianity, but there are a few and it is worth knowing something about them. The two biggest are the Sunnis and the Shi'ites, with the Sunnis being the largest of all and representing the vast majority of Muslims. Shi'ites are a minority everywhere except Iran.

After them, the two most influential sects are the Sufis and the Wahhabis. The Sufis represent a mystical tradition in Islam, whereas the Wahhabis are a strict traditionalist tradition which is dominant on the Arabian peninsula, but has little support elsewhere.

Unlike churches, mosques are not denominational. Despite the differences among Muslims, traditional Friday prayer services are largely similar and Muslims of any background are welcome to attend services at any mosque.

Sunnis are Muslims who are considered the more "orthodox" believers. Sunnis follow all of the most traditional beliefs and actions.

The term Shi'a is a shortened form of Shi'at Ali, which means "the party of Ali" - and at the time of Ali's death in 661, that is probably all it was: a party or tendency of people who supported Ali's claims to the caliphate. Over time, they became the largest non-Sunni sect in Islam.

Sufism is important to the development of Islam because it is in this tradition that the more spiritual and mystical aspects were preserved. This stands in contrast to the mainstream of Islam which, through its first centuries, was more concerned with the expansion and organization of the general community.

Kahrijites! In Arabic, their label means "to go out" - they were, in effect, the first Mulism dissidents and rebels, being present almost from the dawn of Islam. Like later dissidents, they chose to separate themselves from the main body of believers, feeling that the majority of Muslims had lost the "true path."

Wahhabis, Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab could be considered the first modern Islamic fundamentalist. He made the central point of his reform movement the idea that absolutely every idea added to Islam after the third century of the Mulsim era was false and should be eliminated.

Ismailis, an early Shi'a sect which split from the main group because of a dispute over who should be considered the next Imam.

Zaidis, formed by Zaid, a grandson of Husain, the Zaidis have believed that the true Imam must publicly assert his claim to the title and seek to overthrow the corrupt regime run by unacceptable rulers.

Fatimids, the Fatimids are a successor movement to the Isma'ilis and are descendants of Fatima and Ali through the line of Isma'il. In the tenth century, those descendants asserted themselves as caliphs in North Africa, and ruled Egypt from 969 to 1171.

Nizari, this sect is actually very well known around the world, but under a different name: the Assassins.

Alawis, also known as Nusayris, the Alawis are a branch of Isma'ilism which has gone so far along its own path that many Muslims no longer even regard it as a form of Islam. The term Alawis actually just means "followers of Ali," which is used in some countries to refer to all Shi'a in general. Some think that they worship Ali as God, but that isn't entirely accurate.

Druze, The Druze comprise another sect which is not widely regarded as being "truly" Muslim. This group diverged from mainstream Islam in the eleventh century when some Isma'ilis started to believe that God became manifest in the personality of a prophet or imam.

Baha'i, is another movement which is descended from Islam, but which most Muslims today no longer regard as authentically Islamic.

SO MY QUESTION IS, WHICH TYPE OF MUSLIM ARE YOU AND WHAT KIND OF ISLAAM DO YOU BELIEVE IN?

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Its oh so hobvious that things are going down the proverbial bin when you look at the new Mod recruits. Who in their right mind would have Armmie as a mod? Not to mention that of the Religion forum?