to guys!!

Lately i’ve been reading a lot of threads on here about rishta horror stories where mostly the gal’s side is the ‘victim’ or has to deal with the insults n all.

Most of these guys whose rishta goes to ‘materialy suitable’ girls are quite well educated from prestigious institutions with recognized degrees and hold stable high paying jobs. All of these things (degree, job, pay) would normally qualify any person to be sensible enough to distinguish the right from wrong.

Why, then, do these guys not put a stop to the insults, rude comments, greediness, material demands and many other things (whoever they come from be it mom, chaachi, daadi, daada, baap, etc) showered upon a respectable gal’s family?

I want to hear guys’ side of the story.

P.S. i know this is not only always done by guy’s side but could be from gal’s side and i also know tat not all rishta stories are horror stores (some are beautiful). i am only talking about horror stories and tat too initiated by guys’ side.

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Mods, could you please change the title to "To Guys.."

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Not many have the courage to stand up against culture or their elders or maybe they think it too trivial to worry about.

The specific guys tat i'm talking about would be a guy who would have a say in marriage i.e. who to marry n who not to but he would be going thru arranged marriage process. So if a guy can have his say i think he can also stand up for right or wrong. What gets to me is why doesn't he? Maybe he thinks it too trivial..

Guys help me out!!

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yes maybe he thinks its not important & not worth his fighting or arguing for it.
or maybe he is with hus parents/chachi/mami etc on this too .

1) Because it's easier said than done to stand up to the people that have raised you. Some desi guys would never even dream of their moms being anything but angels let alone question their actions.

2) Much of this chalaki happens behind the guy's back. It's hard to decide who is wrong and who is right when you weren't there to witness the drama and one or both parties are shedding tears. It's human nature for us to believe that our immediate family members (mother, sister, brother, father) will always tell the truth. And few guys want to be stuck between the woman that brought them into this world and the one they share their beds with.

3) It's not only the women, but fathers also have the responsibility of demonstrating to their sons how a man should treat a woman. If the father himself has joined the Amma in abusing the bahu, then he's teaching the son that such behavior is an acceptable norm. And in some cases, the father is a very weak and passive person who dares not raise his zuban in front of his wife. So the abuse is carried out and nobody questions it.

4) Perhaps there is a lack of awareness about psychology. A mother has a respected place in her child's life, but that doesn't mean she's incapable of making mistakes. ALL HUMAN beings can be plagued by jealousy and insecurity at some point or the other and can allow these negative emotions to get the better of them.

5) Deep rooted societal beliefs. Our culture upholds unislamic ideas that invalidate women. These double standards have been in our society for generations. And you have two types of people. The first type of people believe that change should start with ourselves at the individual level. These type of people strive to do the right thing. The second type of people will always follow the erroneous ways of society without questioning because it's more convenient.

6) The grandmothers, mothers, chachis, khalas, phoopis have all been through their fair share of hardships in marriages. They should have some understanding and compassion and should make an effort to make things easier and better for the next generation of women. Before abusing their bahus and making unreasonable demands and having double standards, they should think that their OWN DAUGHTERS can be treated in the same way. Such a simple thought should humble them.

7) I'm not sure how much influence the media has. I enjoy Pakistani drams for the most part. But many Indian dramas, especially, still portray women in a very subservient, pati-worshipping, crap-enduring roles. Naturally, this sends out the wrong message with the wrong expectations.

Things have to change from various angles. It's a battle against human nature, family ties, and ancient societal beliefs. It's not only up to the men to change their ways. The women are to blame as well. Should be a united effort. And I believe it starts with the family unit.

Re: to guys!!

A guy with evg. exposure to life is not going to be all the man he is-- till he connects with the girl.
See, how luv marriage make dudes act like men. At-least at the start.

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:hmmm:

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^exactly.

socha ziada karo..

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:smack2: haan ab ye subkey barey mai bhi soochna pareyga :hinna:

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jee
is ko kehty heen bara hona... believe it or not sab ko kerna perta hy

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oye :smilestar:
stop scaring me…

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**sawaal phir se repeat karnaa tab tak maiN jawaab likh rakkhuN ;)

chaachii, need translation [tarjumalation]?**

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Not all men do that. I have a hard time explaining it, because the guys in my family - I haven't seen those sort of family fights much except with my parents. And with my parents, usually my Dad does a good job of keeping his family off my mom. But then again, he has a whole ocean to help him out. They live in Pakistan, and we live here. Overall, he does small things that make a big difference.

  1. She goes to Pakistan - she stays with her family. We see the daadi's side like 1x per week. This is because the first time she did stay with them, they gave her hell. He put them in their place, and said, fine, "If you don't respect my wife, she and the child are not staying with you when she visits".

  2. Nearly any time they do anything, she tells him, and he listens and he quells her down. Then if what they've done is pretty bad, he talks to them. Otherwise, he's like, ok, ignore them. Either way, he listens supportively and apologizes on their behalf.

  3. The minute anything is said or done, and we're there in Pakistan, he gets on the phone with his family and speaks to them.

  4. If my mom is out of line, I'll just tell my dad and be like "well, that's not how it happened...". So he usually gets a fair picture of what happened, and doesn't only rely on his wife's side of the story.

His family in Pakistan despises him for it, but at the end of the day, he makes sure no one disrespects his wife. He wouldn't want his daughters treated like crap in their susraal, so he makes sure his wife doesn't get treated like crap.

He'll say some dumb stuff once in a while, and I have to glove up and intervene.

Do, most guys do this? No. I don't know why.

My male cousin just got married though - first boy in my generation to get married, so let's see what they put that girl through. I already told her, let me know if he or his dumb mom messes with her, and I'll put them straight.

shrugs Some guy's families are supportive and some are not. Most guys - you cannot count on them to be fair.

Guys, thanks for the input.

I am not specifically talking about after marriage. i am mostly referring to insults which are inflicted during the "rishta hunt" process. u know the guy's family asking ?s or other stuff which they shudnt. so y don't the guys realize that it's rude.

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Chaachi - too many words written here by you and the replies - :yawn: - feeling sleepy but I shall be back… :yawn: interesting topic - but need some sleep badly

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In my opinion, men who ask or expect their wives to bring jehez with them are lower then pondscum.

But this is sad fact, no one want to go and ask rishta from poor families. There is lady is going after us for my daughters, the fact is that they never meet us or my daughters (because we do not live in Pakistan).

But because we are suppose to be from so called rich family they are chasing us such a shameless manner i do not know what to do.

I do not want to rude with them, and telling them politely wouldn't work.

Anyway this is life....

Wohh... that's a new one to my dictionary.

But rightly said... families like these are an epidemic.

looks like materialism from both sides innit?

the guy is basically pursued because of the factors you listed prestigious institution, high paying jobs etc etc. if the guy is going to be seen as a checking account by the girls family, the girls family can be seen as making an investment in this future annuity ;)

not to say either it right, both are wrong. That is however how parts of society operate and it appears that only one ill gets covered..but then there is no such thing as hazrat digest to beat this to death.