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Zaid, Umar, Bakar.
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Tom, Daaniyal, Hrithik :)
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I suggest we all do an expressive dance to let our feelings out. :) On a more serious note, in conclusion, we can gather that DESPITE what youtube leads us to believe most pakistani people are not up for dancing in mixed gatherings..YES?
Yes most people are not surely. However, we dance in our weddings and make sure to invite only whom we know. But yayyy to mixed gathering dance.
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No. I don't think girls look elegant dancing on bolly/lollywood style so that's why I'm saying no to OP's question. I like traditional luddi and daandiya though.
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Yup in my family girls do dance in mixed gatherings.
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We dance all out when its just us ladies, but theres some girls who really wanna dance then their mums give them this 'eye' and they sit down which annoys me so much because we're only girls.
When theres men around i persoanlly wouldn't feel comfortable infront of my dad uncles etc, but want to dance at my wedding, would love too
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Well whatever, Islam is not just a religion it’s a way of life, and as Muslims we are told not to follow the customs/traditions of Pagans/Hindus, if people don’t take that advice, that’s their loss. You don’t abandon Islam when you plan a wedding, you have to keep it in mind.
I’m not the only one who says this, I’ve heard this so many times from highly educated born and bred in the U.S, Pakistani Muslim men and women.
Not all weddings are the same, I’ve been to some Pakistani weddings right here in Texas, where Islamic customs were followed, many people are starting to realize that some Pakistani customs are just plain stupid and unIslamic. Many young people don’t want that kind of marriage.
Islam encourages a simple marriage, not one where you are trying to show of to your friends, going into debt, mixed dancing, alcohol etc..and at the end after doing all the haram things you put the Quran over the guy and girl as they walk out to their car, what a shame.
I see more and more people in my age group right here in Houston, who are getting married but don’t want all that traditional insanity and non Islamic “Rasams” with their marriage, and their telling their parents this.
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First of all, I would argue that it’s pretty diverse, 2nd I didn’t say anyone following their religion was shameful, I said it’s shameful for Muslims to pick up and imitate Hindu/Pagan practices.
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Rasam is good - especialy when hot and a bit spicy
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Rasam is good - especialy when hot and a bit spicy
Sounds smelly, LOL, no really isn't that the word for like a ritual or something?
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Well whatever, Islam is not just a religion it's a way of life, and as Muslims we are told not to follow the customs/traditions of Pagans/Hindus, if people don't take that advice, that's their loss. You don't abandon Islam when you plan a wedding, you have to keep it in mind. I'm not the only one who says this, I've heard this so many times from highly educated born and bred in the U.S, Pakistani Muslim men and women.
Not all weddings are the same, I've been to some Pakistani weddings right here in Texas, where Islamic customs were followed, many people are starting to realize that some Pakistani customs are just plain stupid and unIslamic. Many young people don't want that kind of marriage.
Islam encourages a simple marriage, not one where you are trying to show of to your friends, going into debt, mixed dancing, alcohol etc..and at the end after doing all the haram things you put the Quran over the guy and girl as they walk out to their car, what a shame.
I see more and more people in my age group right here in Houston, who are getting married but don't want all that traditional insanity and non Islamic "Rasams" with their marriage, and their telling their parents this.
First of all, I would argue that it's pretty diverse, 2nd I didn't say anyone following their religion was shameful, I said it's shameful for Muslims to pick up and imitate Hindu/Pagan practices.
Islam may be a way of life to you, but to the Pakistanis/Indians living in their own countries, desi rasams and traditions outweigh religion sometimes, intentionally or unintentionally. You may be religious but it still gives you NO right to say "hindu crap" yet claim to be religious yourself. Islam encourages a lot more things than simple marriages. Islam doesn't allow disrespect of other people's religion, now does it?
And why is it "shameful" if ANYONE picks up any religion? They can do whatever the heck they want. In fact, you and your friends are in a minority because weddings back home, in Pakistan and India, ALWAYS have elements of desi culture. There are far worse things to find shameful, traditions and diversity/acceptance of other religion is NOT one of them.
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^Xtron likes m_was_here post...
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^At times I wish I could shorten my name to just MWH, yawrrr.
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Xtron was going to find a very good gs name for you.
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Islam may be a way of life to you, but to the Pakistanis/Indians living in their own countries, desi rasams and traditions outweigh religion sometimes, intentionally or unintentionally. You may be religious but it still gives you NO right to say "hindu crap" yet claim to be religious yourself. Islam encourages a lot more things than simple marriages. Islam doesn't allow disrespect of other people's religion, now does it?
And why is it "shameful" if ANYONE picks up any religion? They can do whatever the heck they want. In fact, you and your friends are in a minority because weddings back home, in Pakistan and India, ALWAYS have elements of desi culture. There are far worse things to find shameful, traditions and diversity/acceptance of other religion is NOT one of them.
Like I said what's wrong is wrong, if anyone wants to follow it or not it's up to them. Yes Islam forbids you to go up to a Non Muslim and diss their faith and make fun of their religion etc..this isn't allowed. However, among Muslims (and I assume most people on this site are Pakistani Muslims), there is nothing wrong with pointing out the Jahiliya(ie crap) practices of another religion, and discouraging Muslims from following them.
I'm not some crazy Taliban guy with a beard , I'm just saying I find it really disgusting and abhorrent when people who are Muslims do those things at their weddings, and I chose not to participate, and I do speak up about it. Sometimes it even works, I spoke up about some stuff at a female cousins wedding plans and my uncle and aunt agreed and adjusted things accordingly, even my female cousin agreed I was right, so it doesn't hurt to try.
Among Muslims we are supposed to only SPEAK OUT when we see people doing something UnIslamic, if people want to listen to that or not, it's totally up to them, but Muslims are encouraged to invite to good and discourage wrong things.
On the day of judgement all the Hindu practices/rasams and Bollywood/Hollywood dancing isn't going to help you in the least, and I will continue to remind Muslims about that.
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"I'm not some crazy Taliban guy with a beard"
OK
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I encourage Muslims to check out these videos, this guy is great and he’s from Houston too.
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We have taken many bad things from some other religions/cultures and that needs to be acknowledged and not so vehemently supported.
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I have recently attended a mehndi that was apparently segregated but the cousins aged 18-20 were considered “bachay” by the family and the friends of bride danced like anything…moreover, fathers of those bachay came inside to watch their Bachay dancing…
The gals there were holding phones in their hands recording videos, the movie maker was also present there…
Hence… 
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Islam may be a way of life to you, but to the Pakistanis/Indians living in their own countries, desi rasams and traditions outweigh religion sometimes, intentionally or unintentionally. You may be religious but it still gives you NO right to say "hindu crap" yet claim to be religious yourself. Islam encourages a lot more things than simple marriages. Islam doesn't allow disrespect of other people's religion, now does it?
And why is it "shameful" if ANYONE picks up any religion? They can do whatever the heck they want. In fact, you and your friends are in a minority because weddings back home, in Pakistan and India, ALWAYS have elements of desi culture. There are far worse things to find shameful, traditions and diversity/acceptance of other religion is NOT one of them.
Heathen! How dare ye think for thyself?!
Like I said what's wrong is wrong, if anyone wants to follow it or not it's up to them. Yes Islam forbids you to go up to a Non Muslim and diss their faith and make fun of their religion etc..this isn't allowed. However, among Muslims (and I assume most people on this site are Pakistani Muslims), there is nothing wrong with pointing out the Jahiliya(ie crap) practices of another religion, and discouraging Muslims from following them.
*I'm not some crazy Taliban guy with a beard *, I'm just saying I find it really disgusting and abhorrent when people who are Muslims do those things at their weddings, and I chose not to participate, and I do speak up about it. Sometimes it even works, I spoke up about some stuff at a female cousins wedding plans and my uncle and aunt agreed and adjusted things accordingly, even my female cousin agreed I was right, so it doesn't hurt to try.
Among Muslims we are supposed to only SPEAK OUT when we see people doing something UnIslamic, if people want to listen to that or not, it's totally up to them, but Muslims are encouraged to invite to good and discourage wrong things.
On the day of judgement all the Hindu practices/rasams and Bollywood/Hollywood dancing isn't going to help you in the least, and I will continue to remind Muslims about that.
I should hope not, I thought you were a girl. I suppose it all depends on the manner in which you speak out. I suppose it's the fault of the medium (online forum) but you do come across as a bit judgmental. You can disagree with the culture but it is what it is. A lot of Christians disagree with a lot of things in American culture. I guess the difference is that Pakistan still pays lip service to the "Islamic" in its official name.
I guess a lot of you come from more more conservative circles than myself. For most of my life, the only weddings I had attended had been in Pakistan and they were all mixed and had dances. I've only attended segregated weddings here in Canada.