Times have changed!/Inzimam as captain. (Merged)

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Once upon a time we had a great captain like Imran Khan leading the side by example.
And even these days you have world class captains like Waugh, Ganguly, Ponting, Fleming make smart decisions to guide their teams to victory.
But we have this man, who has already made huge blunders during this test series but should thank guys like Shoaib, Shabbir, Youhana, and Yasir that he is still the captain of the team.
His walking off the field leaving 28 runs off 30 minute = 8 overs.
Which could have been easily accomplished concerning the wickets intact and the punishing form Youhana was in.

How can we make this guy the captain of the national team?
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blunders at its highest..

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Inzamam as captain...

After watching this test match series, I have serious doubts in Inzamam's abilities as the captain of the Pakistan cricket team. Although we played some good cricket and hats off to the team, but I am very surprised at the total lack of common sense on inzamam's part. Also of interest is the fact that miandad, as coach, obviously did not intervene in all this. The way inzamam just stands there waiting for things to happen and not try and change things around by changing field and bowlers around, and his and miandad's totally negative and defensive approach when we were in a very very strong position was very mind boggling considering the decades of experience these two people have in cricketing matters.

I simply think, despite the win and the results, it was totally appalling to watch the way this guy led the team.

For those who say that hes maturing as a captain, I reckon a school kid with even a bit of cricketing sense would have done a better job than him. OK we dont expect you to be as great as waugh or Imran, but please,,, you totally suck, how much time do you intend to take before you mature up?

not happy at all...

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Array kaka.... we all are pissed right now.. but Pakistani team doesnt ahve any other option naa,, he is the senior most player right now ( other than Moin)... We have to survive with him,as there is no one else present for this Job. We all know Shoaib's behaviour and fitness, you cannot make him captain, like wise, Razzak,Youhana etc, they dont fit in the column as well.. So only Inzimam is left.

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I am not talking about other options, I just cant seem to understand the theory him and miandad have in mind... It was wasnt bad,, it was VERY bad. It was shocking, and I just want to ask why no one like miandad sitting outside intervened and gave him some suggestions and advice??? It just means that miandad was fine with whatever was going on in the field... and I wont be surprised if it was miandad's strategy in the first place.

I reckon they write down on a piece of paper that this this guy is gonna bowl this and this over, and this is gonna be our field,, and then they go out and do exactly that,,, they dont care if the world is turned upside down,,, they just keep bowling one poor bowler for 15 20 overs straight without any field changes and thus without any effect,,, whats up with that?? We need someone to be observing whatever is happening on the field and even off the field and then make appropriate decisions and changes at appropriate times.... we totally lacked that.

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There have been lapses by Inzi in his captaincy but overall he has delivered what is required of a captain --- a win. We beat SA in the test series and now Inshallah today we will beat NZ in a series. That is the bottom line. So lets not be too critical. He has made mistakes and I agree he should improve but he has led the team to victories both inside and outside Paksitan (NZ today). Thsi is much better than the great tactians we had recently who were losing all the matches everywhere. Lets give teh guy a chance and not lynch him. Point out his shortcomings by all means but also keep in mind his achievements.

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I donot think that in these wins, any credit goes to inzi,,, NZ let us off the hook,,, but teams like australia dont give a second chance,,, or require a second a chance,,, they kill you on the first chance they get,, thats the difference between a good team and a great team. And todays win,, was a very very unlikely one,, we could very well have lost and were busy dissing the captain... we shouldnt forget the blunders made by this bozzo just cos we won a game,, and mind you it was a very very unlikely win,,, thanx to shoaib... more like a bonus... we all but lost this match. I,m not criticizing just for the sake of criticizing,, but this guy needs to wake up. This was NZ, if it was Aus or SA,, they dont forgive you for such blunders,,, all they need is a little opening and they are all over you,, thats whats required here too,, a killer instinct, not a head in the sand approach. and the funny thing is,, this guy prefers to put his head in the sand even when we have the upper hand.

I,m sorry I just need to vent my anger here.

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No need to be sorry. That is what discussion is all about. I agree that his captaincy is poor but at the end of the day he has delivered the goods. Even though in the process he has, at times, displayed inept captaincy. As for your example of SA, he did beat them. Our strength is our bowling and even though he didnt use them well in the first innings he deployed them with devastating effect in the second innings.

Let's hope he has learned his lessons and will display better judgement come the series with India. We will need him to be on his very best in that series, both as a batsmen and as a captain.

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You can't blamme Inzi alone, if u know Javid's past record he is the guy who has always tried to play safe. He was a great batsmen but not an attacker.

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i agree fanta stick , mian tidd(stomach) has a loser mentality.. and that probably explains inzi'z loser approach.

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I have a lot to say on Inzi's captaincy but for this post I am only going to discuss his decision not to avail the 8 extra overs to score the remaining 28 runs on the fourth day of the Wellington test.

The rule states that if a team decides to carry on, there is no turning back. Say a wicket or two fall off in the first of those 8 overs, the team MUST bat through the 8 overs (barring conditions of play remain viable). So lets say if Inzi did decide to continue and a wicket had fallen. Don't you think the pressure would have shifted on Pakistan to play out the remaining 7.5 overs?.

Having said that, the same thing can happen on the fifth day. But, the pressure on batsmen wouldn't be the same as it is in the closing overs of a test day.

The only other factor that can come into mind is the weather. Well, there hasn't been a washed out day in the series so far and chances are they will be able to play at least a session even if it rains tomorrow.

It's a dodgy call. I just hope it is not a wash out tomorrow or the cricketing world will have another story to laugh about on Inzi other than his running abilities.

BTW, the most baffling statement came from Pakistan's team manager Haroon Rasheed. When asked why Pakistan decided to wait until the fifth day to reach the 274-run target, manager Haroon Rashid said: "We were doing fine, so why not come back tomorrow?"

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It will take Inzi some time to adjust. He shouldnt need time as he's played international cricket for over a decade now but if Moin sticks around for a while, im sure he can help Inzi do well. Moin was a good captain n did well as vice-captain under Wasim. So far, inzi has gives the desired results, 1-0 win over South Africa and now Pak on the verge of beating NZ 1-0 as well.

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I hated the way Inzi handled Mark Richardson throughout the series. Mark always had a tough time playing Kaneria in the initial 5 to 7 overs. Yet, Inzi had ONLY two close-in fielders for him. A silly mid off and a slip. No silly mid-on or silly point. That remained true even after Mark played some air-balls in those areas.

Why did he make Razzaq bowl 18 overs on the trot after Kiwis were 150 for 5?. Wasn't that the right time to go all guns blazing and bring back Sami and Shoaib in tandem?.

But a thing I like about Inzi is his care-free laid back attitude. The oppostion does not know what the hell is going throug h his head. And neither do we. But somehow he seems to be delivering the winning results. I give up on this guy.

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theres nothing going on in his head,, hes dumb as a stone.
oh well,, i,ll stop. but he better watch out,, a lot of u are saying he delivered the win,, i would say he did everything he could to lose the match,, if it wasnt for some amazing bowling by shoaib,, we were gone!
I hope wen he returns home, someone knocks a bit of sense in his empty melon.

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Thats Tauqir Zia for you.

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by fantastic1: *
You can't blamme Inzi alone, if u know Javid's past record he is the guy who has always tried to play safe. He was a great batsmen but not an attacker.
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I dont think Miandad had a defsnsive approach if thats waht you mean. He has led us to many victories captaining aggressively.

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Ehsan Bhai, Youhana's captaincy won us that test match agaisnt SA and he was aggressive and innovative which inzimam lacks right now.

Regarding Inzi, I ccould not belive the way he made Razzaq bowl all the tiem against tail enders. I dont know what was he thinking but still his approach was surprisingly weird.
But yes i would give him sometime as his captaincy record is amazing, specially in ODIs...

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I am in very much agreement with Kaka here. If it weren't an amazing performance from Shoaib, we had lost this test. If he had used Shoaib in a better fashion in first inning, we wouldn't have to wait for Shoaib's blasting performance. There are too many ifs so I'll just leave them all alone.

Inzi has to realise that Shoaib is the best gun in bowling we have, and any new batsman on the crease will not be comfortable playing a ball 145+kph, anyone can play/block Razzaq's 125+ balls. The new comer should either be puzzled by good spin or blasted by pace so he doesn't get settled properly, the first choice should be a blasting spell.

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Inzi hasn't done any worth for him to be a good captain, BTW - like Saby mentioned, it was Youhana who won us the test match against South Africa not Inzi and Pakistan simply won this test because of individual efforts from the teams, this by no means a team effort.

Inzimam's mishandling of the bowlers almost cost us the match, after being 171/6 on day 2, NZL went on to score 366.
This is plain bad captaincy and he must be happy that Fleming dropped the catch yesterday, or this would have been another defeat for Pakistan.

Once again, Pakistan has been successfull so far not because of Inzi's captaincy but because of brilliant performance from other team members, and chances given by the opposition.
I would pick Moin, Waqar, Wasim, and Latif over Inzi any day.

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I agree with Kaka on this. Inzamam has really been disapointing as a captain so far. Since Moin is back into the team...why not make him the captain? But for now, as long as Inzamam is delivering the results, lets just stick with him.