One of the biggest issue in Pakistan’s governance is the tussle between Prime Minister and President. Both of them treat the other as a “sokan” (the other wife). Our constitution has become a football between the two posts.
So it is time to abolish one of the posts and I suggest PM’s post should be deleted. Anyone (including President Musharraf) who wants to hold the top post of the president should register with one of the parties and seek vote from the general public.
And before he goes to general public, he should be part of primary elections within his own party against other candidates.
No more leg pulling, or drawing room vote baazi. We are sick and tired of the bad blood.
Just elect the president for 5 years and get on with business of building the nation.
Re: Time to abolish Primer Minister's role: President should go to people for vote
^^ well then we have to talk with G. Kiyani for that. Re-write the constitution and make mushi life time President. We can have first dupt pm type post like in Russia. What you think guys?....
Re: Time to abolish Primer Minister's role: President should go to people for vote
Wow,, great suggestions.. Only a new constitution can do this job.
Thank you. Yes it may need constitutional change etc.
^^ well then we have to talk with G. Kiyani for that. Re-write the constitution and make mushi life time President. We can have first dupt pm type post like in Russia. What you think guys?....
Errr! Didn't want it to make a Musharraf thread. There are tonnes of them already.
Prez. for life is not a good idea. Two terms of 5 years should be enough.
And yes a vice prez should be there but an elected via general elections.
Re: Time to abolish Primer Minister's role: President should go to people for vote
Prime minister in Pakistan does not hav emuch of a role anyway. Some have admitted it openly like Jamali, others tried to hide.
As for elections for President, its okay, but our current President will never seek elections from general public. If he does, it will be an achievement if he gets 10% votes.
Re: Time to abolish Primer Minister's role: President should go to people for vote
Prime minister in Pakistan does not hav emuch of a role anyway. Some have admitted it openly like Jamali, others tried to hide.
As for elections for President, its okay, but our current President will never seek elections from general public. If he does, it will be an achievement if he gets 10% votes.
As I said, this thread is not about Musharraf.
And yes it is alright to ask him to go for general election perhaps as Q-League's (or M-league or whatever) candidate.
Once people know there won't be a PM, and president is the main leader, they will think twice before electing Zardari, or NS, or even Imran as the head of the state.
A similar change is in order for provinces too. There should be no "appointed governor". He should be elected directly by the people. And yes it is OK to abolish CM-ship too.
Re: Time to abolish Primer Minister's role: President should go to people for vote
It that case we have to change the parliamentary system of govt to presidential system of the govt, and I'm all for it. I think presidential system is much more stable like here in the US. BTW, I think 5 years thats too long. It should be 4 years for both, and there should be term limits...that way the system filters out the corrupt crooks.
Re: Time to abolish Primer Minister's role: President should go to people for vote
One of the biggest issue in Pakistan's governance is the tussle between Prime Minister and President. Both of them treat the other as a "sokan" (the other wife). Our constitution has become a football between the two posts.
So it is time to abolish one of the posts and I suggest PM's post should be deleted. Anyone (including President Musharraf) who wants to hold the top post of the president should register with one of the parties and seek vote from the general public.
And before he goes to general public, he should be part of primary elections within his own party against other candidates.
No more leg pulling, or drawing room vote baazi. We are sick and tired of the bad blood.
Just elect the president for 5 years and get on with business of building the nation.
Why not.. So long as he's elected and there are checks and balances on his power... The last thing we need is a dictator president.
Re: Time to abolish Primer Minister's role: President should go to people for vote
Sans the MQM supporters Imran is the most popular person in Pakistan.
In his part of Lahore and Mianwali he is popular, not anywhere else in Pakistan. Millions of people in rural Sindh and Balochistan don't even know who he is.
Re: Time to abolish Primer Minister's role: President should go to people for vote
One of the biggest issue in Pakistan's governance is the tussle between Prime Minister and President. Both of them treat the other as a "sokan" (the other wife). Our constitution has become a football between the two posts.
So it is time to abolish one of the posts and I suggest PM's post should be deleted. Anyone (including President Musharraf) who wants to hold the top post of the president should register with one of the parties and seek vote from the general public.
And before he goes to general public, he should be part of primary elections within his own party against other candidates.
No more leg pulling, or drawing room vote baazi. We are sick and tired of the bad blood.
Just elect the president for 5 years and get on with business of building the nation.
Re: Time to abolish Primer Minister's role: President should go to people for vote
In his part of Lahore and Mianwali he is popular, not anywhere else in Pakistan. Millions of people in rural Sindh and Balochistan don't even know who he is.
If there is someone who does not know Imran Khan then he won't know Musharraf as well.
Re: Time to abolish Primer Minister's role: President should go to people for vote
In his part of Lahore and Mianwali he is popular, not anywhere else in Pakistan. Millions of people in rural Sindh and Balochistan don't even know who he is.
Well after his weak performance at the end of December, he is no more having much of a support in Lahore. Dont know about Mianwali though. He has lost popularity among Pakistanis due to his decision not interrupt his visit in India, right after BB was declared dead.
Re: Time to abolish Primer Minister's role: President should go to people for vote
Well after his weak performance at the end of December, he is no more having much of a support in Lahore. Dont know about Mianwali though. He has lost popularity among Pakistanis due to his decision not interrupt his visit in India, right after BB was declared dead.
He might be sincere and well spoken what pubic wanted to hear. But he got a ego problem and one-man show. It will sink him, well he is actually sinking right now.
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Guys, maybe an arrogant prick with the right ideas is probably what we need in Pakistan anyways. Someone who can stand eye to eye with the American juggernaut and tell them that they have faltered. Someone who can with confidence and good measure take on the task of securing the border and having good faith of the elders of the waziris and such. He's got our vote of confidence. He can be trusted for fairness in elections, election commission and doing on the right thing. His background is all inclusive. He's a uniter. And he embodies the spirit of Pakistan in him. He is what Jinnah would want the country to lead.
Let's just join PTI and convince who ever we can to do so as well. The Irnoy of democracy is that elites always rule the people, but they derive their power by virtue of afinties they make in a society.
He's a good man, a true man. He's brave and patriotic. With a dashing charismatic personality.
Let's give this upstart his break: our vote of confidence. Especially since he boycotted these election on principle and never wavered.
Re: Time to abolish Primer Minister's role: President should go to people for vote
Guys, maybe an arrogant prick with the right ideas is probably what we need in Pakistan anyways. Someone who can stand eye to eye with the American juggernaut and tell them that they have faltered. Someone who can with confidence and good measure take on the task of securing the border and having good faith of the elders of the waziris and such. He's got our vote of confidence. He can be trusted for fairness in elections, election commission and doing on the right thing. His background is all inclusive. He's a uniter. And he embodies the spirit of Pakistan in him. He is what Jinnah would want the country to lead.
Let's just join PTI and convince who ever we can to do so as well. The Irnoy of democracy is that elites always rule the people, but they derive their power by virtue of afinties they make in a society.
He's a good man, a true man. He's brave and patriotic. With a dashing charismatic personality.
Let's give this upstart his break: our vote of confidence. Especially since he boycotted these election on principle and never wavered.
Countries don't run on democracies their are other things involve too, is their anything special about PTI? coz of Imran out-speaking?. In the last 10 years, he couldn't able to get his party out of Mianwali and you wanna see him in National Politics scenario ? Classy buddy..!
Re: Time to abolish Primer Minister's role: President should go to people for vote
He's a good man, a true man. He's brave and patriotic. With a dashing charismatic personality.
Let's give this upstart his break: our vote of confidence. Especially since he boycotted these election on principle and never wavered.
I remember him as playboy. I will see when a bomb explode under his motorcade, where he will run to. Probably London for the Scott Land yar Protection.
Boycott the election, with how much representation ? 1 seat. He was in Mumbai walking in Chaddi when benazir dead, here goes his patriotism. Country was burning he was enjoying.
Re: Time to abolish Primer Minister's role: President should go to people for vote
It's not easy to make a party and have it become popular overnight especially in the absence of democracy. In 1997, his party after 6 months came in third. But anyways, he has the message, it's up to us to empower him.