Bush is contemplating not blessing China with his presence over China’s Tibet occupation. Someone please make sense out of this for me and explain what moral ground this man uses to complain about China occupying Tibet by force.
If hypocrisy was a pool full of horse crap, this nation’s president would be neck deep swimming in it.
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Dubya has done a lot of seriously dumb things. Boycotting Beijing would be a small redemption. All world leaders should boycot; so should major country teams
These chinese trash have gone and mercilessly shot and killed dozens of monks and civilians in Tibet
The world should NOT reward this behavior by letting China feel as if they are gracious Olympic centre which they clearly are not
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Its because it is China. They need the next evil empire after the Soviet Union. Thus you have China. Its amazing that people protest so much over Tibet, while places that are much worse off like Chechnya, East Timor, Palestine, Liberia, DRC are completely ignored.
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:k:
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Will the US forces in Iraq be held to the same standard Stircrasy? Or Indian troops in Kashmir? Or EU forces in Serbia?
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Will the US forces in Iraq be held to the same standard Stircrasy? Or Indian troops in Kashmir? Or EU forces in Serbia?
Irrelevant. What the chinese are doing in Tibet has got nothing to do with what Us is doing in Iraq. Would have expected someone who is working in the UN to understand that, but anyway......
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Ah but there is the rub. The situation is 3 times as bad in Iraq as it is in Darfur, Sudan. The US government as killed innocent men, women and children. It has tortured innocent men. It has committed War Crimes in Iraq, by the standard of the Geneva Conventions (Which Bush has deemed irrelevant) and by the standard of the ICC.
If you are going to denounce the Chinese regarding Tibet, the actions of the US in Iraq should be equally denounced.
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Politics should be kept out of it, as much as I support Tibet's freedom and rights, I do think that they've taken advantage of the situation and are giving China an unnecessary headache.
Stircrasy, Tibet is hugely better off than Kashmir, and please India has killed plenty of its own civilians too, in the 1980s at the Golden temple, in Kashmir etc. China has what India doesn't have, and India has what China doesn't have, but China wins though on grounds of economics, compare Lhasa with Srinagar lol (I know not a fair, but still).
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Ah but there is the rub. The situation is 3 times as bad in Iraq as it is in Darfur, Sudan. The US government as killed innocent men, women and children. It has tortured innocent men. It has committed War Crimes in Iraq, by the standard of the Geneva Conventions (Which Bush has deemed irrelevant) and by the standard of the ICC.
If you are going to denounce the Chinese regarding Tibet, the actions of the US in Iraq should be equally denounced.
Yeah, they should be. but this is not the right thread to do it.
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Tibet is hugely better off than Kashmir
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How many mosques have Indians demolished?
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The Tibetan rioters attacked the Muslim quarter of Lhasa including the main mosque in Lhasa last month. I’ve lost all sympathy for them and now fervently hope the Communist party can restore order swiftly so that our brothers in Islam in Tibet can live in peace.
The Tibetans targetted Muslims during these riots - I honestly hope that on a single Muslim on this forum has any sympathy for the Tibetans now that theyhave crossed this line. Go China!!!
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-03/16/content_7802771.htm
ying in a hospital bed, Ma Xiaolong, a survivor from Friday’s turmoil in Lhasa, capital of the Tibet Autonomous Region, groans in pain.
Even his family members were unable to recognize him as the 24-year-old was burnt and scarred around his face, chest and legs.
"Why did they do this to me and my family?" Ma asked, in tears.
A Muslim from the neighboring Gansu Province, the young man opened a restaurant with his family on Baijiao Street, one of the worst-hit areas in the riot.
"The streets became chaotic and I closed the restaurant at around 3 p.m. that day after coming back from doing services at the mosque in the street with my brother and sister-in-law."
Soon, while staying on the second-floor of the building, the family found their restaurant besieged by a dozen young men and women shouting and trying to break the restaurant door with rocks.
The mob finally broke through the metal shutter nearly one hour later and began to spray gasoline around and set fire to the building.
"We were hiding in the toilet upstairs, but we could hear big noises outside," Ma said. "My sister-in-law was so scared and began to cry. Her husband covered her mouth with his hand, asking her to shut up."
The toilet was soon no longer safe as flames engulfed the wooden door and the smoke penetrated in.
"We could barely breathe and had to get out."
With no other choice, they jumped off the building and fell onto the ground of the yard in the neighboring mosque. There, more than 50 Muslims were busy putting out fires.
"Firebrand and rocks were raining down. We hid in the mosque with many other Muslims."
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http://kjct8.com/Global/story.asp?S=8082493
China is allowing foreign diplomats, including an American, to visit Tibet’s capital today and tomorrow.
The trip to Lhasa comes even as police close off the Muslim quarter. The action comes two weeks after Tibetan rioters burned down the city’s mosque amid the largest anti-Chinese protests in nearly two decades.
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Most of the Chinese and Hui Muslim places were targeted, many Hui Muslim beef shops were burnt, also stationery shops, banks, a wholesale market at Tsomtsikhang (one of the most important Tibetan markets, where many shops are owned by Chinese and Hui Muslims).
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^^ WOW, You are actually quoting Chinese newspapers. LOL!
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The Tibetans targetted Muslims during these riots - I honestly hope that on a single Muslim on this forum has any sympathy for the Tibetans now that theyhave crossed this line. Go China!!!
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Because of their ethnicity, not religion.
BTW,
Bhod Gyal Lo!
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^^ WOW, You are actually quoting Chinese newspapers. LOL!
Because of their ethnicity, not religion.**
So what of the cause? The fact remains that the only power in Tibet actively defending the Muslim community from attack (for whatever reason) is the Communist Party and it agents.
Therefore, because the best interests of our Brothers and Sisters there should be dearer to us than the interest of anyone else in Tibet, we should offer our moral support to whoever defends them - including Communists, for now.
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Yeah, they should be. but this is not the right thread to do it.
Pathetic. Morality is not limited to threads. Equality is not limited to threads. Protecting people's rights and their freedoms is not limited to threads. Truly pathetic ummm.
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Pathetic. Morality is not limited to threads. Equality is not limited to threads. Protecting people's rights and their freedoms is not limited to threads. Truly pathetic ummm.
LOL. No comments
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Because you can not. You are simply jumping on the China bandwagon because you are a drone. Unable to think for yourself.
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Because you don't have the basic sense to understand where what must be discussed. By all means, continue to throw your insults at me. I will not be dragged down to your level.
You justify China's acts in Tibet by comparing it with what US has/hasn't done in Iraq. Now that's called logic. And all this croc tears abt Iraq comes from some1 who supports stoning as a punishment for adultery.
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So what of the cause? The fact remains that the only power in Tibet actively defending the Muslim community from attack (for whatever reason) is the Communist Party and it agents.
Therefore, because the best interests of our Brothers and Sisters there should be dearer to us than the interest of anyone else in Tibet, we should offer our moral support to whoever defends them - including Communists, for now.
Ofcourse, only the muslims matter, others don't
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Still no condemnation. Truly Pathetic. While I have condemned the stoning, the FGM and so much more you can’t even hold the same standard to others.
This is why Muslims are better. We will accept our faults. We will accept that certain practices are wrong and we will do what we can stop them.
You on the other hand can’t not even condemn the killing of innocent people. What a pathetic excuse for a human being.
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^^You enter my Ignore List.
Let me repeat, your justification of China's action based on Iraq is absurd, and outrageous. This is not the thread to condemn US and I am not going to do that just to disprove your stereotyping of muslims and non-muslims.
Enough Said.