Thread splitted from 'Muslim anymore' to Example of Shirk

[lethal_kamikaze]

Peace Pakilarka,

Peace give me one example how ‘shirk’ can be forgiven.

[Pakilarka]

Re: Muslim anymore?

@lethal_kamikaze

Peace Pakilarka,

Peace give me one example how ‘shirk’ can be forgiven.

Hazrat Umar r.a use to worship idols before converting to Islam, When he became Muslim he quit Idol worshiping and his shirk was forgiven.

This was the story of most sahaba’s.

[lethal_kamikaze]

Re: Muslim anymore?

Peace Pakilarka,

Was Hazrat Umar r.a. born as muslim or else?

[Pakilarka]

Re: Muslim anymore?

or else…

Did He r.a perform shirk, while he wasnt Muslim (yes or no plz)

[lethal_kamikaze]

Re: Muslim anymore?

No. I was asking was He born as muslim or non- muslim.

[Pakilarka]

Re: Muslim anymore?

@lethal_kamikaze

No. I was asking was He born as muslim or not mulsim.

yea i said “or else”

he wasnt a born muslim. but u didnt answer my question,

Did he commit shirk before he was muslim ? yes or no ?

[lethal_kamikaze]

Re: Muslim anymore?

My answer is ‘No’.

[Pakilarka]

Re: Muslim anymore?

@lethal_kamikaze

My answer is ‘No’.

Okay, So none of the sahabs commited shirk before converting to Islam ?

[lethal_kamikaze]

Re: Muslim anymore?

No.

[Pakilarka]

Re: Muslim anymore?

@lethal_kamikaze

No. I was asking was He born as muslim or non- muslim.

Bro this is the dumbest argument i ever had

@The_Jinx

If you commit SHIRK and then repent in this life and do not shirk thereafter, you are forgiven. When Allah says that He will not forgive Shirk, it means that He will not forgive this sin if one dies while committing and believing in shirk.

Many of the sahaba were mushrikeen before coming to the fold of Islam. All of them are Razi Allah Anhu.

Here is another folk saying what i said.

@psyah

Peace kb syed

Prayer is only in vain, if your intention is not prayer. Doing a major shirk and not recognising it in this life, will result in it having to be paid for in whatever manner will do it justice in the hereafter, unless if in this life you realised that repented, and never did it again … We ask in du’a that Allah makes us die on Iman and in Islam for a reason … It is because we trust that the most important thing is for us to be in these states upon death … What you did before should be forgiven, inshaAllah ... Most Sahabis were mushrik before they came to Islam now … How can they be the best of the followers if your concerns are true? No, coming back to Islam is a way to clean the slate as long as the intention of leaving and coming back are sincere. And Allah is the Best of Judges, Most Merciful.

And another

[lethal_kamikaze]

Re: Muslim anymore?

Tell me why?

[Pakilarka]

Re: Muslim anymore?

@lethal_kamikaze

Tell me why?

Are you sister or brother ?

[lethal_kamikaze]

Re: Muslim anymore?

^
bhai hoon tera

[Pakilarka]

Re: Muslim anymore?

@lethal_kamikaze

^
bhai hoon tera

Yaar to bahioon ki tarah act karo na…

I gave u an example.

A. look at most sahab’s, they were muhsriks before coming to Islam.
B Being Mushrik means the commited shirk
C. now they r r.a means they were forgiven

No more questions please.

[lethal_kamikaze]

Re: Muslim anymore?

Peace Pakilarka,

One who born with non-muslim faith and never believed in ‘Onnes of God (mean believe in Almighty Allah)’ and was worshipping other than ‘One true God’ how can commit a sin of shirk? Whereas a person who born as muslim’ and very well believer in ‘Onnes of God’, and due to whatever reason started worshipping any other deity, would committed sin of shirt or not?

If you see any person who accepted ‘Islam’ was never before ‘muslim’. Take any example of Sahaba r.a.

[Pakilarka]

Re: Muslim anymore?

@lethal_kamikaze

Peace Pakilarka,

One who born with non-muslim faith and never believed in ‘Onnes of God (mean believe in Almighty Allah)’ and was worshipping other than ‘One true God’ how can commit a sin of shirk? Whereas a person who born as muslim’ and very well believer in ‘Onnes of God’, and due to whatever reason started worshipping any other deity, would committed sin of shirt or not?

If you see any person who accepted ‘Islam’ was never before ‘muslim’. Take any example of Sahaba r.a.

Please loook up the defination of MUSHRIK

[lethal_kamikaze]

Re: Thread splitted from ‘Muslim anymore’ to Example of Shirk

Peace pakilarka,

I prefer to look up first at defination of ‘Shirk’ than ‘Mushrik’. What is definition of ‘Shirk’? What you think?

[Pakilarka]

Re: Thread splitted from ‘Muslim anymore’ to Example of Shirk

@lethal_kamikaze

Peace pakilarka,

I prefer to look up first at defination of ‘Shirk’ than ‘Mushrik’. What is definition of ‘Shirk’? What you think?

Shrik is taking someone as ALLAHs Shareek (Patrner)… Mushrik is one who performs shirk

Shirk can be performed before and after acceptance of Islam. Ypu dont have to be a muslim to perform shirk.
The person performing Shirk is Mushrik

[bao_bihari]

Re: Thread splitted from ‘Muslim anymore’ to Example of Shirk

Brother Lethal, Are hindus Mushrik.?

[lethal_kamikaze]

Re: Thread splitted from ‘Muslim anymore’ to Example of Shirk

@Pakilarka

Shrik is taking someone as ALLAHs Shareek (Patrner)… Mushrik is one who performs shirk

Shirk can be performed before and after acceptance of Islam. Ypu dont have to be a muslim to perform shirk.
The person performing Shirk is Mushrik

Peace Pakilarka,

This is exactly what I am asking from you 'when a person born with non-muslim faith and never known to Almighty Allah how come commit sin of ‘shirk’?