Re: Thousands-strong mob attacks police station, burns man to death for alleged blasp
Your predictable. I knew you would complain about the links. Point here is that POLICE are allowed to use lethal force. There is no question about that. Its only under what circumstances. If the police feel that there is an imminent threat, that cannot be put down through non lethal means, then they are allowed to use lethal force. This is common knowledge. That you refuse to acknowledge this just tells me your argument is not based on facts but your own ego’s inability to admit your wrong. its ok. ![]()
The Article says that at any point where the police feel they are threatened, or there is a threat to another person or persons, they are allowed to use lethal force IF NO OTHER MEANS TO SUBDUE THE ASSAILANT OR ASSAILANTS IS AVAILABLE OR VIABLE. The mob in question could not be controlled through non lethal means, hence the Police are allowed to use lethal force. Simple as that. but I’m sure you ego is working over time to find some lame loop hole.
Your third point is mental. FIRST of all, the police are trained to spot a threat such as this, second when a mob is rabid as those sob’s were, the police can be pretty damn sure they are going to kill the person. your logic is so beyond ridiculous, I can’t imagine how you actually sat there and came up with something like this. By your logic, Police in India were by no means guilty of allowing insane mobs to butcher Muslims because they couldn’t have known for certain that the Muslims were going to be butchered.
Your fourth point is also lame. Although I didn’t have to waste my time actually researching a point that is beyond contention, I actually did for the sake of humoring you. The point was to demonstrate that LETHAL force IS permissible under certain circumstances. The use of force is not a default gesture, its a necessity. Are you going to tell me that the police should simply step aside and allow a mob to murder a person or persons? Are you out of your mind? The police are allowed to use all means at their disposal, which includes lethal force, as long as its a last resort.
The police in our scenario DID have Machine guns. However, could they have used these guns successfully i can’t say, but they are authorized to use these weapons (Or are they there just for decoration?)
And THE MOB WASNT EVEN AFTER THE POLICE!
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Do you even know what the job of a police officer is?!?!?! What reality are u living in? The duty of the Police is to protect and uphold the law. Controlling the mob, whether they are attacking the police or someone else, is the job of the POLICE!
I see what your problem is. You don’t have any clue as to the basic functions of police or I’m guessing, any other servant of the state.
The Police are NOT ONLY responsible for their own live, but also the lives of others. That means that if someone else’s life is in imminent danger, and there are no means of protecting the person or persons without resorting to lethal means, then lethal means are authorized. For example, a number of plane highjackings and hostage situations have ended in the death of the hostage takers, even though they did not pose a threat to Police. So there goes another of your arguments.
Condoning MASS murder by vigilante’s and mobs is of course condemnable. But, when the Police are forced to use lethal force, its not considered murder because they are authorized as circumstances warrant. Police use of lethal force is only questioned in terms of whether or not it was justified, however, that they have the authority to use such force is unquestionable. The state gives authority to Police to use force, with the understanding that they will use this force only when justified and with due prudence.
Also, the police aren’t a mob themselves. Their use of lethal force is only up to a point where the assailant or assailants are subdued. If the mob disperses, the police can’t simply continue shooting at them. Even then there is a limit.
The Police have to assume the worst. Many people have died because even though their intention was not to do harm, their actions portrayed a threat and so they were put down. Either way, the police can’t simply hope the mob will be nice and cooperate. Are you so naive as to think that the mob was going to glare at the poor victim and let him go?
Lastly, you don’t understand basic human psychology. People aren’t insane. They don’t want to die. People who rush head first in a hail of bulllets do so because they were indoctrinated into it and prepared, or trained for it. Suicide bombers are brainwashed into it, soldiers are trained to do it. Normal human beings naturally take cover when they see the guy ahead of them has been shot. At the very least, they could have stalled the SOB’s while reinforcements arrive.
Regardless, our debate hasn’t been about whether the police had the capacity to use lethal force, or whether or not such means were viable, but rather, whether or not they are authorized to do so and would they be justified. The answer is the Police ARE authorized to fire on the mob as long as all other means are exhausted, AND given what was happening, they would also be 100 percent justified since tear gas had not worked.
Finally, what you consider to be “humane,” I consider cowardly abdication of duty. And to be honest, I’m actualy ashamed for you. You might think abandoning your responsibilities is something of a merit, but I think its pathetic. And as you mentioned THE FAMILY I would be thinking of as I’m running away, according to you, I would add that if self respect, and the respect of my family and peers is something I truly value, facing that family after having abandoned my post and living with that sharum, is a fate worse then death. I’m certain you however, would live long and prosper knowing you saved your own hide. ![]()