Re: Thousands of weapon containers entered Karachi in tenure of MQM's minister
its 1900 not 19000
and when DG Rangers say that, he should know that former ports and shipping minister and his party was fully supported by his former big-boss mush
army was hands in gloves with MQM in this crime, since its birth
Re: Thousands of weapon containers entered Karachi in tenure of MQM's minister
A valid point. This CJ should not retire, till he gets to bottom of this case. Babur Ghauri was Federal minister of Shiping since 2004, in Mush's peak rule. Container were missing then bringing NATO supplies. MZ, former home minister Sindh in his press conference referred to this theft publicly and said that he had proof that these were vanished during Babur Ghauri's ministership. CJ should call him with proof now. Babur Ghauri should also be called by CJ to clarify missing/stolen 19000 containers full of arms and ammunition.
Re: Thousands of weapon containers entered Karachi in tenure of MQM's minister
Some questions that I have in this regard.
Does the ministry of shipping have any record of the containers reaching the port and how many actually each their destination? If these weapons were actually meant for NATO then I am sure They would have made a big deal out of it as its a big issue. If the answer is no to both questions then its very scary.
According to Babar Ghauri, he does have record of every container reaching and leaving the port. They were then transferred to customs and further to other agencies. Whether they reached their destination or not, was not in the control of ministry of shipping. Their job was done when containers were handed over.
Whether they were meant for NATO or for Pakistan Army, either one of them should have made huge hue and cry about so much quantity of advanced weapons gone missing. But nobody did.
Also, everyone remained for years. The silence was broken only when MQM and Karachiites demanded action against extortionist and kidnappers supported by Sindh PPP. That tells a lot.
Similar pathetic childish tactic as coming up with the idea of Muhajir Republican Army right at the same time. Talk about little brains.
Re: Thousands of weapon containers entered Karachi in tenure of MQM’s minister
… well… all this broha about some Muhajir Liberation Army … its amusing ..
I think … naming the Militant group of MQM as Mohajir Liberation Army is a part of some sort of preemptive strategy … to deal with the situation…
knowledgeable sources say..the situation is not simple…and it has International implications …so they have to or should tread the road …very very carefully…
… a very conservative estimate of the Militant wing of MQM is around 2 lacs…Period… this is the number of volunteers Altaf Hussain has offered to the army in fighting terrorism …earlier he had already offered one lac volunteers to the Traders of Karachi to fight the Bhatta menace or rather ..fight the competition …provided they pay for its upkeep… period.
…Also Altaf Hussain in 2001 has already threatened …to launch an armed struggle.
Re: Thousands of weapon containers entered Karachi in tenure of MQM’s minister
It does have international implications. This concocted story by Urdu haters is being picked up by haters of Pakistan all over the world. This is being presented as the failure and incompetence of Pakistan to be ignorant of thousands of thousands of weapon containers gone missing, and then these weapons ending up all across the country in the hands of terrorists and criminals.
Does anyone remember Dana Rorabacher? He is a known Indian sympathizer who has maligned Pakistan previously as well. Here is his tweet:
19,000 shipping containers with arms go missing in Pakistan. While US funds the PK Army, it’s terrorists who benefit.
One more tweet from the same place:
19000 missing containers of AK47 and lethal weapons! Is Pakistan serious in curbing terror?
Re: Thousands of weapon containers entered Karachi in tenure of MQM's minister
LOL
Burnol anyone ..?/
well didn't Mr Altaf Hussain offered One Lac Volunteers to the traders of Karachi , against the bhatta mafia .?? ... provided they pay for their services..?/
and just recently didn't he again offered the services of two lac volunteers to the Army in the fight against terrorism..??
..doesn't this amount to the acknowledgment of the presence of 2 lac trained personals...!!..and about the threats ....
as recently as these elections he demanded Karachi ko alag ker deyna chahiyee....didn't he said that...!!
..now go on and spin doctor explanations about it ..
Re: Thousands of weapon containers entered Karachi in tenure of MQM's minister
Are you sure?
I am sure. After knowing who smuggled arms from stolen containers, this CJ will never decide as usual. He remembers and he will always remember till he is alive 12 May 2007, how criminals welcome him in Karachi. yeh apna pechwarha dekha kar, daffa ho jaaiyga. haram ka maal jo kamaya hay usay kharch bhi to karana hay retirement ke baad zindha rah kar
Re: Thousands of weapon containers entered Karachi in tenure of MQM's minister
LOL
Burnol anyone ..?/
well didn't Mr Altaf Hussain offered One Lac Volunteers to the traders of Karachi , against the bhatta mafia .?? ... provided they pay for their services..?/
and just recently didn't he again offered the services of two lac volunteers to the Army in the fight against terrorism..??
..doesn't this amount to the acknowledgment of the presence of 2 lac trained personals...!!..and about the threats ....
as recently as these elections he demanded Karachi ko alag ker deyna chahiyee....didn't he said that...!!
..now go on and spin doctor explanations about it ..
MQM is bigger threat than Taliban. "Muhajir Republican Army" is part of his threats. Babur Ghauri ko jail main thorha chitrol karen, woh sub kuch buk de ga.
Re: Thousands of weapon containers entered Karachi in tenure of MQM's minister
Nabeel Gabol replying to this allegation:
khoji agar yeh hi jawab Canada ya America ka Shipping Minister de, to usay FBI aor Home Land Security, uskay ghar se nikal kar seedha jail main pohancha denge
So what is the responsibility of Federal Shipping minister? maal banana aor hathyaron se bharay containers ghaib karna oar "Muhajir Republican Army" ko puhchana.
Re: Thousands of weapon containers entered Karachi in tenure of MQM's minister
MQM is bigger threat than Taliban. "Muhajir Republican Army" is part of his threats. Babur Ghauri ko jail main thorha chitrol karen, woh sub kuch buk de ga.
BS. Muhajir Republican Army is concoction of Sindhi racists in PPP Sindh. And one who needs chhitrol is that scumbag Mirza who distributed thousands of weapons among Lyari gangsters.
Now you can continue to spew your allegations based on ethnic hatred of Urdu speaking people. I know your ilk.
Re: Thousands of weapon containers entered Karachi in tenure of MQM's minister
khoji agar yeh hi jawab Canada ya America ka Shipping Minister de, to usay uskay ghar se nikal kar seedha jail main pohanchaian.
So what is the responsibility of Federal Shipping minister, maal banana aor hathyaron se bharay container ghaib karna oar "Muhajir Republican Army" ko puhchana.
That will be the same response given by any shipping minister. The responsibility for moving containers to their destination is not that of shipping ministry. And if there is any truth in this allegation then** why didn't Pakistan Army or NATO say anything when those thousands and thousands of sophisticated weapons supposedly went missing?** Can you answer this question?
And about "maal banana". It is ironic to see this coming from you.
Re: Thousands of weapon containers entered Karachi in tenure of MQM's minister
Can't understand when the city is burning, everyone is raising fingers at each other. playing dirty ethnic cards will not resolve matters. Shame on those who support black sheep in their rows. na hi MQM wale farishte hain na hi PPP wale. Sick of these retards and their supporters. call spade a spade if you are real man. There should be an end to this 'tera kutta kutta, mera kutta tommy' attitude and terminologies like biggest terrorist and small terrorists. A terrorist is simply a terrorist.
We criticize other parties and conveniently ignored the parties who support or have soft feelings. I'm yet to see people accepting wrong doings of the parties they support. No one can deny militant wings of MQM, ANP or PPP's backing of Amn Committee. At least, we as a public should start opening our eyes and telling truth leaving our bias away.
Re: Thousands of weapon containers entered Karachi in tenure of MQM's minister
Can't understand when the city is burning, everyone is raising fingers at each other. playing dirty ethnic cards will not resolve matters. Shame on those who support black sheep in their rows. na hi MQM wale farishte hain na hi PPP wale. Sick of these retards and their supporters. call spade a spade if you are real man. There should be an end to this 'tera kutta kutta, mera kutta tommy' attitude and terminologies like biggest terrorist and small terrorists. A terrorist is simply a terrorist.
We criticize other parties and conveniently ignored the parties who support or have soft feelings. I'm yet to see people accepting wrong doings of the parties they support. No one can deny militant wings of MQM, ANP or PPP's backing of Amn Committee. At least, we as a public should start opening our eyes and telling truth leaving our bias away.
Topic is not that what you are saying here. This is specific to stealing of containers full of ' maut ka saaman from Karachi Port during MQM's Federal Minister. If this is not decided now, people like you living in Karachi will be the most sufferers. There will be more bloodshed all over Karachi beyond your imagination, if culprits are not caught and all missing arms and ammunition is not recovered and accounted for, missing from these containers. It is really a time for action, not blah blah blah, if you want to live in Karachi peacefully.
Media reported 11,000 containers missing in 2010 but in January 2011 ISAF/NATO clarified that only 14 containers were missing out of 26490. Now they are bringing it up again.
Re: Thousands of weapon containers entered Karachi in tenure of MQM's minister
Topic is not that what you are saying here. This is specific to stealing of containers full of ' maut ka saaman from Karachi Port during MQM's Federal Minister. If this is not decided now, people like you living in Karachi will be the mostly sufferers.
I know this is not topic, but time and again these discussions are leading to racist terms 'Sindhi rule', 'Sindhi racist PPP', 'Urdu speaking haters'. why? because we not only want to support political parties, but also militant wings they have. With this attitude no investigation will bear any fruit. It will be taken as political revenge, because we don't want to find out truth. We just want to see opposite parties in hot waters.
Re: Thousands of weapon containers entered Karachi in tenure of MQM's minister
I am sure. After knowing who smuggled arms from stolen containers, this CJ will never decide as usual. He remembers and he will always remember till he is alive 12 May 2007, how criminals welcome him in Karachi. yeh apna pechwarha dekha kar, daffa ho jaaiyga. haram ka maal jo kamaya hay usay kharch bhi to karana hay retirement ke baad zindha rah kar
Then in that case you should ask for his immediate retirement with hopes that someone functional/competent may become CJ.
Re: Thousands of weapon containers entered Karachi in tenure of MQM's minister
I know this is not topic, but time and again these discussions are leading to racist terms 'Sindhi rule', 'Sindhi racist PPP', 'Urdu speaking haters'. why? because we not only want to support political parties, but also militant wings they have. With this attitude no investigation will bear any fruit. It will be taken as political revenge, because we don't want to find out truth. We just want to see opposite parties in hot waters.
I agree. I have replied to these allegations to one here. He has not responded me yet. You have to understand MQM is a racist party founded on ethnic back ground. Their survival is only through spreading ethnic hatred. It is responsibility of majority to condemn these racists with full force and brought to justice the crimes they have committed. Similarly if there are criminals in PPP, they should also be brought to justice. But PPP is not ethnic based and not founded on ethnic hatred. You have to understand the differentiation between the two.
Re: Thousands of weapon containers entered Karachi in tenure of MQM's minister
I agree. I have replied to that allegation to one here. He has not responded me yet. You have to understand MQM is a racist party founded on ethnic back ground. Their survival is only through spreading ethnic hatred. It is responsibility of majority to condemn these racists with full force and brought to justice the crimes they have committed.
I think same is true for PPP as well. They have been playing Sindh card for decades (without actually being loyal to Sindh. Do I need to explain this?). Can you condemn acts of Amn Committe and Zulfiqar Mirza in absolute terms?