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You will have to wait forever. The Indian muslims don't seen to care because Pundits are Hindus. OTH if you were an illegal Bangla muslim, there will be many to stand up for you. Atleast it looks like that right now.
Indian muslims even dont care about kashmiri muslims...have you ever seen protest in india against killings of innocent muslims in kashmir in fake encounters....
now i know you will not appreciate that................:D
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Killing anybody is reprehensible . Some of those killed were not bengali muslims. They were illegal Bangladesh foreigners who had sneaked in to settle in India. Rest of the casualities were bodo tribals. So where is your sympathies for the tribals whose land was usurped by these aliens who had no right to be there? Please call a spade a spade and do the right thing.
Are bangladesh infiltrators doing with use of force?
or those are bodos who own the AK-47 in assam?
now dont try to portray those illegal immigrants as invaders...who use force to invade a land
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Nope. Not at all. I hate all types of killings. If the muslims had protested the killings of all people, I would have stood up to support it. But what happened is that muslim groups are protesting the killings of just one section of the rioters who are illegal immigrants **only because they are muslims **and have started intimidating Indians in other parts of the country. Where is their protest for the tribals who lost their lives ? The tribals are minority elements of the society too ? Who will speak up for this section of the society? They are even more smaller in number than the muslims. This fact is not tolerable. By doing that they pit themselves against the rest of India on the basis of religion which is a reprehensible and foolish thing to do. Double standards should not be tolerated or accepted by any one anywhere.
Have you ever seen large assemblies of hindus protesting against killings of hindus and muslims both the communities...:D
then why demand it from muslims....
those muslims of mumbai are not supporting illegal infiltration of india by bangladeshis...
but protesting killings of muslims...and every community have that right....
you are using illegal immigration as an excuse for killings of bengali muslims
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Indian muslims even dont care about kashmiri muslims...have you ever seen protest in india against killings of innocent muslims in kashmir in fake encounters....
now i know you will not appreciate that................:D
Afzal guru,the cheif conspirator of parliament attack is Kashmiri and muslims have protested for him umpteen times at jantar mantar in delhi.
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^
:ast:
Don’t you know, he is just a innocent “boy” from a simple Muslim family, framed by the evil brahman-baniya-(shuddar?) police and Supreme Court kaanspiracy.
Mashallah, he even wears a Keffiyah !
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^^ noone beleives that others have right to live in their homes too unless you deny theirs:), last time Gilani appealed pandits to return back home and I was amazed by the statement alone
"Sach poocho to shar mein hi basti hai deepti vinay ki"
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Afzal guru,the cheif conspirator of parliament attack is Kashmiri and muslims have protested for him umpteen times at jantar mantar in delhi.
mam link please as i had hard time finding one.....
i never saw any protest in any part of india by muslims in support of afzal guru or any kashmiri weather pundit or muslim
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may be he does not have wisdom of thousand years behind him…
which is way of life…
like this lady
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Pak Hindus have officially asked for asylum because of atrocities against them by the Pak muslims. These immigrants are sneaking in to settle without permission. They have neither asked nor have been considered for asylum. The buddhist Tibetans requested and were granted political asylum. So the cases are vastly different. I am not sure but I remember reading that the Indo-Bangla border is marshy in stretches which makes it difficult to mine and patrol but makes it easy for people sneak in. Why isin't Bangladesh rioting in support of its muslim illegals ?
So Jammu and Kashmir border is easy to mine as compared to the Bangladesh border? The matter of fact remains that there is a pro-India government (and somewhat anti Pakistan) in Bangladesh and they dont want to damage/discredit it.
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He is a she? :eek:
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Gotta love the double standards. One live conversion in Pakistan apparently gives the minorities every reason to fear the worst of the worst repercussions. But in this case, the Muslims have absolutely no reason to be protesting or fleeing. It's all a big conspiracy.
The flippant, patronizing tone is unnecessary. It's one thing to be oblivious of a situation, another to flaunt it. I suggest you re-visit the thread in question and consider my response to you. Your opinions on the publicized Hindu conversion reflected surprising ignorance and bias regarding Pakistani minorities. I'm quoting you here : "And isn't it self-explanatory why other religions don't enjoy the same status in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan as much as Islam does?" Remarkable that you not only acknowledge but justify a disparity in the status and treatment of citizens based on their faith. To state the morally obvious, no, it isn't 'self-explanatory' in a pluralistic, democratic society. Favoring or disfavoring groups based on their religion is called discrimination.
Dronacharya's desperate siege mentality aside, your own double-standards were reflected here : "I think this issue is being blown out of proportion. Let me put it this way… let’s say Indian muslims protested against persecution, that would make complete sense." So it makes 'complete sense' when the persecuted is Muslim, not so much when it's a Hindu. You both share the reflex to paint your co-religionists as unassuming victims. So much so, you assumed the 'fleeing' group could only be Muslim, when in fact they were Hindus fleeing in fear of retaliation by Muslims for recent violence in Assam. It helps to read the news before reacting.
Note to self : A post simultaneously 'liked' by bao bihari, diwana, Faris Udeen and ninja hattori likely contains some element of patriotic and/or religious chauvinism. Very unfortunate.
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What a mess.
I love the NE people in Delhi. They are a lot of fun.
The government needs to smack the sh*t out of voilent protestors in the big cities and the trouble making Bodos in Assam. The illegal immigrants need to be rounded up and trucked back to BD.
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which is way of life........
like this lady
What exactly is your point? The lady in question is under prison awaiting trial, unlike Ms. Afia Siddique who is a heroine in her country. She isn't being fated by high government officials for her deeds, is she? Why are you comparing her with Afzal Guru, who was sentenced to be hanged by the Supreme Court ten years ago ? Why is the government in power dragging its feet to execute him ? Obviously, it believes that it if it does carry out its constitutional obligation, it may result in the alienation of its vote bank from certain community. Why ? Is this scumbag considered a hero by that community ?
Your posts have been interesting in this thread. Like any sensible Indian [including Muslims], you could have said that the goons who participated in such "protests" are not representative of the vast majority of Indians who are peaceful citizens,and that these constitute only the fringe minority. But it almost seems that your are implying that such behavior is normal for Indian Muslims and moreover that they are justified in behaving in such a shameful manner. You have done this by :
1.Appeal to fellow Muslims' sympathy by feigning false victim hood: Standard "all muslims are considered terrorists" straw man, when nobody mentioned the t-word in the first place.
3.By misrepresenting the post of another member when he suggested that like normal Hindus, Muslims should also mind their own business and work for their family's success rather crusading for Muslims in a country, who they wouldn't be able to point out on a map.
Frankly I am rather confused by your posts. Are you one of those loonies who believes that living in *Dar-ul-Harb, *its his obligation to defend worst Muslim against best kaffir ? I hope you are not.
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Now discuss the glorious cause which inspired such a mob frenzy that resulted in the desecration of religious as well as national monuments and threats to fellow Indian citizens. You have argued that such actions are justifiable because these foreigners are Muslims. Okay. I presume that it is the Ummah concept which inspires such zealous concern for perceived or real persecution of Muslims from other countries.
Let us ignore the wider "Muslim World" where the situation is even more pathetic and concentrate on our immediate neighborhood. Bangladesh has categorically refused to give any assistance to Rohingya refugees. Pakistan has dithered over accepting stranded Bihari Bangladeshis over the years and we are hearing talks of deportation of all Afghan refugees. OTOH, you can find many Rohingyas in Indian refugee camps. So, why destroy your own country's property, when Ummah countries are behaving in much worse manner ?
What you wanted to discuss when you said he is another innocent muslim and he is also wearing kefiyeh!
Though the behavior of muslim protesters was wrong still it did not match bodo brutality.
Now say we must defend our worst countrymen who are on rampage against particular community.
Salute to your jingoism!
And sir I want link to the news where four north eastern people killed in banglore by muslims:hehe:
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To state the morally obvious, no, it isn't 'self-explanatory' in a pluralistic, democratic society. Favoring or disfavoring groups based on their religion is called discrimination.
Jee bilkul but Pakistan isn’t exactly a pluralistic, democratic, ideal society, is it? Neither is its constitution. Hence why it’s self-explanatory, which translates to obvious, not to justifiable.
your own double-standards were reflected here : "I think this issue is being blown out of proportion. Let me put it this way… let’s say Indian muslims protested against persecution, that would make complete sense." So it makes 'complete sense' when the persecuted is Muslim, not so much when it's a Hindu.
Not sure if you’re misquoting me here on purpose or you actually didn’t read the full para which basically said muslims protesting against persecution would make complete sense BUT protesting over a bollywood movie scene or a star plus controversy wouldn't. How does that mean it wouldn’t make sense if it was a Hindu?? These are your words, not mine. Yes, it definitely helps to read before reacting. Perhaps you also didn’t read the bit where I said I stand by the Pakistani minorities in speaking up against the persecution and pressurizing the government to put an end to the discrimination.
I was only naïve about telecasting a conversion because I was seeing it from the point of view of a European (hence all those EU/US references), and that point of view later changed when people emphasized the seriousness of the matter in the context of a society like Pakistan. And why I brought it up in this thread? To compare the gravity of the two protest scenarios for Dron.
And yes, I partly misread the news because the article I read was about Muslim leaders asking Assamese people not to flee hence why I hastily assumed they were Muslims. Yeh wakiye meri ghalti hai, my apologies. The question I asked in my first post remains though – amongst all this ethnic tension, what makes the authorities so sure that there would be no clashes in Bangalore? Also, any updates anyone on the evidence which lead them to believe that this is an attempt at cyberwarfare from Pakistan?
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...... Note to self : A post simultaneously 'liked' by bao bihari, diwana, Faris Udeen and ninja hattori likely contains some element of patriotic and/or religious chauvinism. Very unfortunate.
Love the note to self when posting on internet.
You are a riot! :D
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from all the evidence presented, and the stance of indian posters…it seems indian muslims are equally nutcases as pakistani muslims…
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The flippant, patronizing tone is unnecessary. It's one thing to be oblivious of a situation, another to flaunt it. I suggest you re-visit the thread in question and consider my response to you. Your opinions on the publicized Hindu conversion reflected surprising ignorance and bias regarding Pakistani minorities. I'm quoting you here : "And isn't it self-explanatory why other religions don't enjoy the same status in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan as much as Islam does?" Remarkable that you not only acknowledge but justify a disparity in the status and treatment of citizens based on their faith. To state the morally obvious, no, it isn't 'self-explanatory' in a pluralistic, democratic society. Favoring or disfavoring groups based on their religion is called discrimination.
Dronacharya's desperate siege mentality aside, your own double-standards were reflected here : "I think this issue is being blown out of proportion. Let me put it this way… let’s say Indian muslims protested against persecution, that would make complete sense." So it makes 'complete sense' when the persecuted is Muslim, not so much when it's a Hindu. You both share the reflex to paint your co-religionists as unassuming victims. So much so, you assumed the 'fleeing' group could only be Muslim, when in fact they were Hindus fleeing in fear of retaliation by Muslims for recent violence in Assam. It helps to read the news before reacting.
Note to self : A post simultaneously 'liked' by bao bihari, diwana, Faris Udeen and ninja hattori likely contains some element of patriotic and/or religious chauvinism. Very unfortunate.
As I have stated multiple times, your ability to look at a situation from someone else's perspective shows true wisdom and spirituality. Hats off to you.
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Nope. Not at all. I hate all types of killings. If the muslims had protested the killings of all people, I would have stood up to support it. But what happened is that muslim groups are protesting the killings of just one section of the rioters who are illegal immigrants **only because they are muslims **and have started intimidating Indians in other parts of the country. Where is their protest for the tribals who lost their lives ? The tribals are minority elements of the society too ? Who will speak up for this section of the society? They are even more smaller in number than the muslims. This fact is not tolerable. By doing that they pit themselves against the rest of India on the basis of religion which is a reprehensible and foolish thing to do. Double standards should not be tolerated or accepted by any one anywhere.
Not buying your answer here. Basically you are saying that you do not have your own mind to decide who to support and why.
Even if Muslims are only protesting on killing of muslims, what stops you from condemning all killings?
And why bring support for those who you think have to lose their lands compared to all those who lost their lives?
