The problem is Muslims are protesting against other Indians for illegal immigrants . Why are they not just protesting loss of life ? Why are they not protesting the massacre of tribals by the illegal immigrants ? Protesting against loss of life is the right thing to do but not if the protest is in support of one group of people (who had no business being there) only because they share the same religion. I condem any loss of life and hope the Govt can reach a solution and the illegal immigrants can be deported without any loss of life. Atrocities were committed by both tribals and illegal muslims and I stand with my fellow citizens irrespective of religion for a peaceful solution and not for the intimidation of my brothers and sisters.
They're protesting "against other Indians"? Says who? They are simply protesting against the killings in Burma and Assam. Various Hindu organizations in India held protests against the persecution of Hindus in Pakistan just 2 days ago. Where were you and Dronacharya then? Did you question them why they weren't protesting against the loss of life in general, or for oppression of people worldwide, or for education, jobs and other issues in their own country instead of protesting against something in another country? I guess they were also going against other Indians? Jeez, I hope you can see the fallacy in your argument.
And Dronacharya, tell me who justified the violence by the protesters? I guess you chose not to read the bit where I called it pathetic and ninja agreed with me? You have zero credibility with all that bias in you so not even worth discussing anything with you. Happy posting.
Gotta love the double standards. One live conversion in Pakistan apparently gives the minorities every reason to fear the worst of the worst repercussions. But in this case, the Muslims have absolutely no reason to be protesting or fleeing. It's all a big conspiracy.
I believe we all have our biases. Your continuing to trivialize the Hindu conversion on TV is a reflection of your bias. Your defending the abominable behavior - defacing amar jawan in post 3 attacking Buddha statue etc - is a reflection of your bias.
These are Thugs. That is my opinion - and maybe a reflection of my bias.
Ninja let me ask you a simple question. Can you point out one post of yours where you have been objective wrt to religion? Call a spade a spade. There is no need to reflexively take one side all the time.
I believe we all have our biases. Your continuing to trivialize the Hindu conversion on TV is a reflection of your bias. Your defending the abominable behavior - defacing amar jawan in post 3 attacking Buddha statue etc - is a reflection of your bias.
These are Thugs. That is my opinion - and maybe a reflection of my bias.
I am defending all that and I don't even know. Just like I was defending the discrimination of minorities in Pakistan, right?
They're protesting "against other Indians"? Says who? They are simply protesting against the killings in Burma and Assam.
They are not protesting against all killings in Assam. They are not protesting against killing of tribals. They are not protesting against illegal immigration which is changing the demographics of the region. They are not protesting for jobs and education. They are not protesting against the economic hardships the people of Assam are facing due to illegal immigration. They are not protesting for deportment of illegal immigrants . Heck they are not even protesting for peaceful resolution of the crisis. What they are protesting is the killing of illegal Bangla muslims by bodo tribals. Why are they not protesting against the killing of Bodo tribals by illegal muslim immigrants. Why are they threatening legal Indian Citizens of NE India and asking them to leave a part of India which they don't have a right to do so in the first place ? What is a Bodo-illegal immigrant dispute has been changed into a bodo- muslim dispute by them. They are only protesting against the killings of illegal immigrants only because these illegal immigrants are muslims. Have they ever protested outside the chinese embassies against the treatment of Tibetan refugees who are legitimately allowed in India ? Have they protested against the displacement of minority pundits from their homeland by their Kashmir Muslim brothers ? No !
So. Yes ! The muslims of India are protesting against the rest of India in sympathy for only the illegal immigrants who were killed for the only reason that they share a common religion and not out of the kindness out of their heart towards suppressed minorities.
Everything about this particular case is very much about religion. Muslims in the rest of India are threatening fellow Indians from the North-east in the rest of India because tribals and illegal muslim Bangladesh settlers killed each other. So Indian muslims are threatening NE Indians to leave that part of India before Ramzan and such stuff. Already some tibetians who atleast have a legitimate reason to be in India were beaten up because they looked like NE Indians. The result is mass exodus and fear which we see. Just who is going to stand up for the tribals who also lost their lives at the hands of illegal muslim Bangla settlers ? The rest of India ? What will be the result of this ? More communal violence where muslims will be the losers.
It is what it is. I think your comments re the Hindu conversion and this rioters do reveal a bias - and that is OK.
lol southie, try reading my comment in the context of Dronacharya's sarcasm that those who were fleeing their homes had no reason to be fearful. And my point was, if broadcasting a conversion on tv is enough to intimidate the minorities then why shouldn't they be fearful in this case?
calypsodc, you've made your point, I've made mine, I'll let ye carry on the discussion now.
Gotta love the double standards. One live conversion in Pakistan apparently gives the minorities every reason to fear the worst of the worst repercussions. But in this case, the Muslims have absolutely no reason to be protesting or fleeing. It's all a big conspiracy.
lol southie, try reading my comment in the context of Dronacharya's sarcasm that those who were fleeing their homes had no reason to be fearful. And my point was, if broadcasting a conversion on tv is enough to intimidate the minorities then why shouldn't they be fearful in this case?
calypsodc, you've made your point, I've made mine, I'll let ye carry on the discussion now.
What context? Went back and read Drona post. He sarcastically said belligerent majority is fleeing. You turn that around to say there is every reason for Muslims to protest or flee. He was not referring to Muslims fleeing here.
You grouped protesting and fleeing as applicable to Muslims. But the fleeing is by NE folks. Hope it is clear now.
My point re bias stands. Not the end of the world. Ee all have it. Accepting it is 1st step. Hopefully I am also out of this thread.
They are not protesting against all killings in Assam. They are not protesting against killing of tribals. They are not protesting against illegal immigration which is changing the demographics of the region. They are not protesting for jobs and education. They are not protesting against the economic hardships the people of Assam are facing due to illegal immigration. They are not protesting for deportment of illegal immigrants . Heck they are not even protesting for peaceful resolution of the crisis. What they are protesting is the killing of illegal Bangla muslims by bodo tribals. Why are they not protesting against the killing of Bodo tribals by illegal muslim immigrants. Why are they threatening legal Indian Citizens of NE India and asking them to leave a part of India which they don't have a right to do so in the first place ? What is a Bodo-illegal immigrant dispute has been changed into a bodo- muslim dispute by them. They are only protesting against the killings of illegal immigrants only because these illegal immigrants are muslims. Have they ever protested outside the chinese embassies against the treatment of Tibetan refugees who are legitimately allowed in India ? Have they protested against the displacement of minority pundits from their homeland by their Kashmir Muslim brothers ? No !
So. Yes ! The muslims of India are protesting against the rest of India in sympathy for only the illegal immigrants who were killed for the only reason that they share a common religion and not out of the kindness out of their heart towards suppressed minorities.
I am asking this question again, what is Indian government doing against illegal immigration? Why is it such a bad thing now when it was all good in 1971?
I am asking this question again, what is Indian government doing against illegal immigration? Why is it such a bad thing now when it was all good in 1971?
Syed don't know if India welcomed immigratn in 71. Let us say she did. Does not mean India can absorb more immigration now! False premise IMO.
^ well they are welcoming Pakistani hindus/Tamils and Nepalis, arent they?
besides if they can mine Jammu and Kashmir border, cant they mine Bangladesh border and post regular army there instead of BSF? Or talk with Hasina Wajid who already has pro India leanings.
All I wish to see Indian muslim supporting us, the kashmiri pandits, who did the crime of being pandit in the valley, for which we were killed and chased out from the holy land:(
Ninja let me ask you a simple question. Can you point out one post of yours where you have been objective wrt to religion? Call a spade a spade. There is no need to reflexively take one side all the time.
Sir i am waiting for you to call a spade a spade.....
^ well they are welcoming Pakistani hindus/Tamils and Nepalis, arent they?
besides if they can mine Jammu and Kashmir border, cant they mine Bangladesh border and post regular army there instead of BSF? Or talk with Hasina Wajid who already has pro India leanings.
Pak Hindus have officially asked for asylum because of atrocities against them by the Pak muslims. These immigrants are sneaking in to settle without permission. They have neither asked nor have been considered for asylum. The buddhist Tibetans requested and were granted political asylum. So the cases are vastly different. I am not sure but I remember reading that the Indo-Bangla border is marshy in stretches which makes it difficult to mine and patrol but makes it easy for people sneak in. Why isin't Bangladesh rioting in support of its muslim illegals ?
