Seriously people? Im not talking about Tattoos that cover a persons face but anywhere else on the body that gets covered with clothing. My cousin is a physician with a tat on his back. My husbands CFO has a tattoo on his arm, he also own a guns collection and my husband just gave him a really gorgeous Hookah as a going away present because he also smokes Hookah. He just left my husbands company to become the director of finance for Cigna. I think his career is doing just fine. One of my husbands senior financial analysts has a tattoo that creeps out of his shirt on the side of his neck as well. His career also seems to be doing fine. Tattoos do not affect the workplace these days from what I have seen since it would probably be workplace discrimination just like not hiring a pregnant lady for a new job or someone with children over someone who does not have children or paying a female less than her male counter part, not hiring someone for openly being homosexual or forcing someone to be clean shaved. Beards also were not allowed before but that also changed over time. I don't think it's about being liberal or non religious or rebellious. I get when people mention how Tattos have been perceived in the past, (rebellious, cult, gothic) I get what they mean but Im saying the mind set has definitely changed and having a tattoo has nothing to do with a persons character or intelligence or at least should not if you still think of it that way. Tattoo and rebellious wild child fall into the same wrong kind stereotype of like when gays were associated with aids in the 70s even to the 90s. Times have changed and perceptions have changed because a persons choice to get a Tattoo doesn't have anything to with them wanting to lash out or rebel against somebody necessarily. Tattoos are common because people have become more open to self expression in many forms and its worse to discriminate someone for being who they are (that includes having a tattoo if they chose) as opposed to having one in the first place.
That's awesome op! Good for the guy to stick to his guns about his personal decision.
If a Muslim was fully aware that tattoos are prohibited in Islam, then yes, that IS a rebellion toward Allah. If that tattoo covers a fairly large area of the body and is often displayed, then yes, it's an open rebellion. Even if the tattoo is tiny and the placement is inconspicuous, it is still a rebellion if the person knew before hand of its prohibition. Rebellion is not underplayed or even negated by size or placement. If one was not aware of the prohibition, that's something else. Yes, other sins such as consuming riba, zina, gossiping, not praying are also acts of rebellion...but they cannot and more importantly should not be used to deflect from or downplay other sins. It's not reasonable or logical, but by nature most of us become defensive about our sins/mistakes.
I personally don't mind tattos so much depending on the design; some can look tasteful. But it's still a rebellion if it's deliberately done when one knows the rulings. Saying that it has personal meaning is like saying it's a personal statement. In that case fashion sense, your hairstyle, car etc are also examples of personal statements. However, these are examples of things that can be easily altered and can evolve with time, whereas a tattoo is usually done with the intent of permanence. This intent of permanence coupled with the person's willingness to put themselves through physical pain (more pain than it would take for the usual body piercings) might be why the personal meanings/impressions made by tattoos are perceived to be a bigger deal by desis and non-desis alike.)
"Tattoos are sins and rebellion against Allah and are a huge sin and yet I personally don't mind them." seriously so you are saying that on a personal level you don't mind rebellion against Allah, I could use logic and reason in Grade 2....you are so far gone that even I can't save you.
The sentence from my post that you have quoted deals with the “look” and “design” of tattoos. Just as other members ventured their opinions on the “look” of tattoos…as in a few members said they found tattoos to be ugly/scary…I, too, included my opinion on the matter. Yes, I personally think that some designs can look attractive/interesting. What I was trying to say when I used the words “not mind” is that strictly in the aesthetic sense …I don’t mind all the designs or find all of them distasteful …whereas someone else might mind all tattoo designs and find them visually off-putting or trashy regardless. But I still think it’s a rebellion. I could find a mini skirt to look appealing or cute… I may not mind it’s aesthetic sense…but I would still consider wearing one rebelling.
The sentence or rather technicality that you’ve pounced upon with the hastiness of a “2nd grader” … I admit… should have been more clearly explained or better constructed by me; that was my fault and I accept it. Who knows? I may indeed be very far gone, perhaps even to the point of being eternally doomed. It’s strange though that such an opinion should come from someone who was earlier chiding me that one shouldn’t judge and leave it to Allah. But I admit I am rather tickled by the lofty regard you have for yourself; that you should consider yourself a savior. Tis’ true that you cannot save me and I feel not the slightest compunction over this…erm…“loss.” I much prefer my state of darkness to your “enlightened” one.
Savior part was meant to be facetious, Haha…Savior!!! heck below is my life inspiration Velvet..
…yeah, the feel of liberation,
We’re going like the rebels in the cars,
And we’re breaking the laws,
And we rock it, rock it oh, oh!
No…, no! No light until the day comes, no!
We gonna …
Cause we rock it!
And we don’t let our worries inside,
Until it gets bright outside,
We break all the rules that we know!
We’re out of control!
We rock it, we roll!
And nothing gonna ever stop the body you know
The sentence from my post that you have quoted deals with the “look” and “design” of tattoos. Just as other members ventured their opinions on the “look” of tattoos…as in a few members said they found tattoos to be ugly/scary…I, too, included my opinion on the matter. Yes, I personally think that some designs can look attractive/interesting. What I was trying to say when I used the words “not mind” is that strictly in the aesthetic sense …I don’t mind all the designs or find all of them distasteful …whereas someone else might mind all tattoo designs and find them visually off-putting or trashy regardless. But I still think it’s a rebellion. I could find a mini skirt to look appealing or cute… I may not mind it’s aesthetic sense…but I would still consider wearing one rebelling.
The sentence or rather technicality that you’ve pounced upon with the hastiness of a “2nd grader” … I admit… should have been more clearly explained or better constructed by me; that was my fault and I accept it. Who knows? I may indeed be very far gone, perhaps even to the point of being eternally doomed. It’s strange though that such an opinion should come from someone who was earlier chiding me that one shouldn’t judge and leave it to Allah. But I admit I am rather tickled by the lofty regard you have for yourself; that you should consider yourself a savior. Tis’ true that you cannot save me and I feel not the slightest compunction over this…erm…“loss.” I much prefer my state of darkness to your “enlightened” one. /QUOT
Believe me we don’t wanna hang where you hang…chao..my drink I getting warm
Depends where he got it, sometimes you get it in Jail, some times they r gang colors, some girls like the strong men, some like little princesses jk...jk
^No, it definitely is not that. It isn't a prison tattoo or anything of that sort. He does have a rather specific meaning behind the design and colouring but I cannot really say (personal reasons).
^No, it definitely is not that. It isn't a prison tattoo or anything of that sort. He does have a rather specific meaning behind the design and colouring but I cannot really say (personal reasons).
I know, I was just toying with cat women, why do these girls want to play it so safe and boring, but just for caution people should educate themselves on what prison Tattoos look like, so they don't mess with the wrong dude. The president of our corporation has a tattoo.
My friend invited the gentleman over to meet her family on Saturday. In the end, he wore a long sleeved dress shirt (really, what else would you wear to meet prospective in-laws?) but did not do anything to cover the small bit of tattoo on his hand. His reasoning was that going out of his way to hide the tattoo would, in essence, be apologising for the tattoo and he sees no need to apologise for a personal decision as there is a specific personal meaning behind the tattoo. Someone brought up the issue of whether or not my friend could ask him to have it removed. Another friend of ours once asked him if he would ever consider getting it removed and he stated that he would not and does not intend to for the same reason (personal decision). Also, given that my friend is not terribly bothered by it, I doubt she would ever suggest he remove it.
In regards to whether or not it affects his job, it does not. He works in an unconventional industry which is more creative and open to self expression. He double majored in media/mass communication and advertising and works at a record label. From what I can tell, the tattoo has not affected his job as he seems to have done quite well for himself.
My friend said that the meeting went quite well overall. However, her mum did ask about the tattoo and asked whether it is a problem at work and if he has others. He openly told her that he has had it for quite a bit now and has not had any issues at work and that he does have others though not visible. Her mum was a bit skeptical but was not majorly put off though. Her mum’s overall take was that we all go to our own graves and pay for our own sins in the end and that being the case, his decision to have a tattoo really only impacts him. She also said that at the very least, he has the balls to admit he has a tattoo and reveal his actual personality rather than pretending to be the perfect desi boy in public and in front of elders while being shaitan behind closed doors (which many people do these days).
An issue that was of greater concern to her parents was his job. Her father views the media industry as rather ephemeral and commented that he finds it doubtful that one can stay in a job like that forever as the media industry, especially music, primarily caters to the youth and youth culture. He pointed out that while he may be young now and good at his job because he is in touch with that youthfulness, he will not stay young forever and asked what he plans to do if his current job does not work out in the long term. Other than that she said her parents asked the usual questions and that it went rather well.
Seems her parents are wiser than she believed them to be.
