Re: This is this SC and that was that SC
Simple concept yaar, follow me.. First of all I do remember you case... The prob was that because the govt had no legal case against the CJ, they made up some lame BS... It had the dumbest garbage in there, I think they might have accused him of black magic or some garbage like that, thats was dropped and it deserved it. The Chief Justice HADNT done anything wrong... He was only doing his job.. IF HE HAD DONE SOMETHING WRONG, IT HE WOULD BE JUDGED THROUGH DEMOCRATIC MEANS... Now the SJC found him innocent, then why are you complaining... Remember, unlike Musharaf, the CJ is a legal figure... He has the mandate to be CJ... Musharaf is an unelected dictator... Big difference. Musharaf should be punished because what he has done IS treason. He sacked the CJ, even though he didnt have the authority, he changed the Constitution to suite his on whims, thats going against the statye buddy... That treason. And no the CJ isnt accountable for what happned ten years ago, because neither is Musharaf. Musharaf is guilty of this crime that he commited LAST month.
AND I KNEW YOU WOULD SAY IM COMPARING CJ WITH JINNAH... You missed the point completely! This isnt about Jinnah, but the charceter of Leader and heros... The point was, that leaders and heros are not judged by their past.. They are judged by their actions when it counts... Jinnah is a leader despite the fact that he was never consistant... A lot of leader and heros were that way... Gadhi also supported the Britsh Raj at one time, and yet he is considered a great leader... The point is that just because the CJ made mistakes in the past, he is a hero for what he did when it counted.. Thats the way it is with all leader... Now if you can excuse Jinnah, then you can excuse the Chief Justice. Now you get it? And whether Jinnah was a traitor or not is irrelevant... When the people who were looking to Jinnah to lead them to Pakistan and he refused, they felt betrayed to... But he stepped up when it counted.. If the Chief Justice betrayed his country in the past, thats in the past... He more then made up for it by standing up to the dictator when it counted. You dont even have to look at Jinnah look at others... Ghandi, Benjamin Franklin, and even Malcolm X, all inconsistent and still leaders and heros.
And finally, tell me this.. Why is it that the Chief Justice can be ridiculed and maigned by people like you and the govt and Mushu, but he isnt allowed to defend himself? Mushu has gone on the tv, he has spoken through his chamcha govt all to defend himself... Why does the Chief Justice not have the same right to defend himself as Musharaf does? What honors has Musharaf gained that the CJ hasnt.. If polls are anything to go by, the CJ is far more popular then the dictator is...
Just to answer some of your points
You can call the charges minor but I see corruption (specially by Judges) a VERY SERIOUS CRIME. If we can make our judiciary corruption free that will change the future of our country.
For your kind information SJC was never able to complete their review of reference. If Ifti had not done anythign wrong, why not let the constitutional process work? same constitution that Ifti took oath on?
Accountability of Judges are performed by references to SJC and not democracy.
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And no the CJ isnt accountable for what happned ten years ago, because neither is Musharaf. Musharaf is guilty of this crime that he commited LAST month.
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This is the coolest logic I have ever heard. Lets not punish for the crimes committed 10 years ago but only punish the crimes form last month coz in this way Ifti could be acquitted
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Jinnah sure did change his mind but here you are accusing Mush of treason and showing Ifti as a Saviour and champion of justice, What I m saying is that IF MUSH IS A TRAITOR, IFTI HAS EQUAL PART IN IT (if not more) coz IFTI VALIDATED HIM, IFTI GRANTED HIM A PERMISSION TO AMEND THE CONSTITUTION and above all IFTI TOOK OATH ON PCO ....
If the CJ is guilty of the PCO in 1999, then we also would have to bring Musharaf to trial... Thats well and good, but is Musharaf willing to allow himself to be hauled infront of and independant judge to face trial for a crime he commited in 99? If so then fine, we should bring ALL who involved, including the heads of the PML q etc.
Alright deal ...... Mush, CJ and all judiciary that took oath on PCO in 1999 should be brought to trial on changes of Treason !!!!! :)