Third US state to allow firms to refuse gay customers.

[Southie]

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@Sady

Islam provide protection to minorities and their places of worship idol worshipers or not, period. Anyone who advocates otherwise is not telling you Islamic but satanic teachings.

Ok. This is consistent with what I have heard.

[Southie]

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@aqua70

You still don’t get it huh. For people who believe in lets say a God for example, there is ‘proof’ everywhere, from living organisms as complex as humans to the massive amounts of planets, stars, galaxies etc. etc. Now you may not see it that way but that doesn’t mean what they believe is wrong. And as far as people who are creating laws against gays, their proof is the bible. Again you may think, it’s not legitimate enough but it doesn’t matter because it is to them.

I respectfully disagree re laws against gays based on the Bible Quran or Gita. Your religious beliefs end where another person’s rights start. It is ok for you (not specifically you ) to believe whatever you want about gays, muslims, Hindus Christians etc. But when your religious beliefs are made into laws that intrude on another HUMAN BEINGS rights, that is when fair minded people will rise up. And prevent it from happening.

At ALL costs.

To add, whenever there is conflict between ANY holy books teachings and common sense and fairness, one should discard the former and go with the latter. THIS SHOULD BE THE CORE PRINCIPLES BY WHICH RELIGIOUS FOLKS AND ATHEISTS live.

[aqua70]

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@Southie

I respectfully disagree re laws against gays based on the Bible Quran or Gita. Your religious beliefs end where another person’s rights start. It is ok for you (not specifically you ) to believe whatever you want about gays, muslims, Hindus Christians etc. But when your religious beliefs are made into laws that intrude on another HUMAN BEINGS rights, that is when fair minded people will rise up. And prevent it from happening.

At ALL costs.

To add, whenever there is conflict between ANY holy books teachings and common sense and fairness, one should discard the former and go with the latter. THIS SHOULD BE THE CORE PRINCIPLES BY WHICH RELIGIOUS FOLKS AND ATHEISTS live.

Southie uncle, in my previous statement, I never stated whether it was right or wrong. I was just trying to answer queer’s question of proof.

[queer]

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@aqua70

You still don’t get it huh. For people who believe in lets say a God for example, there is ‘proof’ everywhere, from living organisms as complex as humans to the massive amounts of planets, stars, galaxies etc. etc. Now you may not see it that way but that doesn’t mean what they believe is wrong. And as far as people who are creating laws against gays, their proof is the bible. Again you may think, it’s not legitimate enough but it doesn’t matter because it is to them.

that is exactly the problem. if the “proof” is only good enough for those who will make the blind leap into their faith and not hold up in an objective court of law, it can simply not be the basis of laws than form a fair and functional mixed society. if you look back at the thread, the reason this proof talk started was because monk wants everyone to accept his wispy met@ views on evolution being nothing and jins being real. well, not without any proof. if you don’t have it, dont make such demands outside of your religious congregations.

(why does GS censor the word “met@”?!)

[aqua70]

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@queer

that is exactly the problem. if the “proof” is only good enough for those who will make the blind leap into their faith and not hold up in an objective court of law, it can simply not be the basis of laws than form a fair and functional mixed society. if you look back at the thread, the reason this proof talk started was because monk wants everyone to accept his wispy met@ views on evolution being nothing and jins being real. well, not without any proof. if you don’t have it, dont make such demands outside of your religious congregations.

(why does GS censor the word “met@”?!)

Monk stated he doesn’t believe in evolution and that jins are real; you stated evolution is real and there are no jins. He is not pointing a gun to your head and telling you to believe in his point of view, just move on uncle ji.

[queer]

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The difference is there is objective proof for evolution, none for jins, santas, gods, fairies, etc. So they aren’t exactly the same - gun or no gun.

[aqua70]

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@queer

The difference is there is objective proof for evolution, none for jins, santas, gods, fairies, etc. So they aren’t exactly the same - gun or no gun.

Oh lord, I check out. Peace :halo:

[Southie]

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@aqua70

Southie uncle, in my previous statement, I never stated whether it was right or wrong. I was just trying to answer queer’s question of proof.

Ok. I misunderstood.

Cheers.

[Sady]

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@queer

thats fine. no proof? then no law hating on homos because some people’s god told them so.

So if I understand you correctly, you’re saying that as a representative of muslim faith I should provide you with ‘proofs’ that a man having intercourse with another man in his anus is execrable??? What kind of primitive mind does it take not to ‘see’ and feel that? That appalling act can be covered with as many ‘clean’ layers as possible by the supporters of man-to-man anus intercourse to make it sound something ‘normal’ and clean but to humans still in healthy state of mind, heart and soul, it is not. And let me also tell you that to realise that, you dont even have to be a believer because it is more a matter of an unnatural human behaviour than religion. But this and other rotten ideas are being promoted in the name of ‘liberty’ and ‘civilization’. If you cant feel / ‘see’ something as primitive as that (the unnatural, nasty act between two males) about ‘homosexuality’ then may God help you because only He can help you.

@queer

The difference is there is objective proof for evolution, none for jins, santas, gods, fairies, etc. So they aren’t exactly the same - gun or no gun.

I’ve known plenty of people (including myself) who’ve had several paranormal experiences and that is evidence enough for me personally. Not shoving those experiences down your throat or others’ asking to believe them too. But since you have claimed, “…there is objective proof for evolution…”, I would love to hear the ‘objective proofs’ you or people you know have experienced which support ‘evolution’ theory. So let’s hear.

[Pria]

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How did we get from stupid Gov Pence to jinns? Jinns make people gay or something?

[McPendo]

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You guys sound like a bunch of Starbucks drinking basic white corporate employees instead of Muslim Pakistanis.

[McPendo]

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@Priapism

How did we get from stupid Gov Pence to jinns? Jinns make people gay or something?

They may, but to answer that we must first ask a Jin. Monk? Go ahead mate.

[Southie]

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What is this about shoving things down people’s throats?

[ajazali]

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@Monk

I did not write off science, or study of evolving genes.
But again I have experienced.

2 para christian thing.

3 para. Sorry but such arguments have played out. No one would convert unless they honestly looking for the truth.
Tomorrow if I find recording of spirits saying “there is a after life” What are chance people wont find a reason to deny it ?
The knock out magic you are looking for is already here. But people find twisted ways not to believe it.
bye

Well said. :k: