Narrated Ayesha(mother of the believers),'After the death of Allah’s Apostle Fatima,the daughter of Allah’s Apostle asked Abu Bakr As-Siddiq to give her the share of inheritance from what Allah’s Apostle had left of the Fai (i.e. booty gained without fighting)which Allah had given him. Abu Bakr said to her, “the holy prophet(saww) had said, 'Our property will not be inherited, whatever we (i.e. prophets) leave is Sadaqah (to be used for charity).” Fatima, the daughter of Allah’s Apostle got angry and stopped speaking to Abu Bakr, and continued assuming that attitude till she died. Fatima remained alive for six months after the death of the Holy prophet(saww).
Volume 5, Book 57, Number 111:
Narrated Al-Miswar bin Makhrama:
Allah’s Apostle said, “Fatima is a part of me, and whoever makes her angry, makes me angry.”
Does it mean that since the duaghter of Prophet was angry with Abu Bakr, so is the prophet?? If prophet is upset with some sahabi, what does that mean to us as muslims, followers of sunnah of Prophet Mohammad (saww)??? Should we appreciate the act of sahabi that angers prophet or denounce it?? Should we follow the sunnah of prophet and be angry with that sahabi??
I'm sure someone will be able to answer your query, insha'Allah. While at it, I also would like to clarify that your intentions of causing a stir clearly shine through.
I may have different views from a lot of guppies out here, may have different beliefs and yes I agree I might have raised questions that a lot of guppies might not agree with, but can you mention one instance where I have been rude or disrespectful to any individual, or any individuals beliefs??
If anything I have learned (from other guppies here) proper etiquettes of addressing a lot of historical figures (which I did not know before) and try to adhere to these etiquettes.
You might not like me for asking these questions, but the intention is certainly not to cause a stir. To be very honest the only intention is to either learn something from others and be able to understand other sects better while at the same time clarify why I (or my sect for that matter) hold certain type of beliefs.
1- That this Hadith might be weak and not authentic.
2- If this Hadith is True, then it really does not matter: Humans are prone to error, if Fatima[ra] got angry with Abu Bakr[ra] - Allah[swt] may grant her forgiveness. Abu Bakr [ra] is among the people who are guaranteed Paradise, and so is Fatima [ra] - daughter of the Prophet Muhammad [PBUH].
the hadith on making fatema (ra) angry does not mean that if she insists on something wrong no one shud tell her that she is wrong....
it was said by the Prophet (saw) when Ali (ra) declared that he wanted to marry another woman, and like any other woman, fatima (ra) was upset by this and told the Prophet (saw) and hence he said this....
it does not mean that if there is something that she did not know, no one is supposed to correct her cuz she might get angry....
Narrated Ayesha(mother of the believers),'After the death of Allah's Apostle Fatima,the daughter of Allah's Apostle asked Abu Bakr As-Siddiq to give her the share of inheritance from what Allah's Apostle had left of the Fai (i.e. booty gained without fighting)which Allah had given him. Abu Bakr said to her, "the holy prophet(saww) had said, 'Our property will not be inherited, whatever we (i.e. prophets) leave is Sadaqah (to be used for charity)."Fatima, the daughter of Allah's Apostle got angry and stopped speaking to Abu Bakr, and continued assuming that attitude till she died. Fatima remained alive for six months after the death of the Holy prophet(saww).
read the bolded part. Prophet pbuh said to charity.
To fulfil the command of Prophet Muhammad (saw) was the first priority for Hz. Abu Bakr (ra).
*"There is also hadith to the affect that he explained to Hz. Fatimah (ra) his reasons and that she accepted and was pleased.
There is proof from the Authentic Sunnah that Faatimah (alayhas salaam) became pleased with Abu Bakr As-Siddeeq before her death.
al-Hafidh Ibn Katheer mentions in his al bidayaah 6/333 that: **"When Fatima (alayhas salaam) was experiencing her sickness [before death], Abu Bakr as Sideeq came to her and sought to please her, and she became pleased. " **
The exact narration has originally been reported by Imaam al-Baihaqi through Ismaeel ibn Abee Khaalid who narrated from Ash-Sh’ubi, and the isnaad (chain) of this report is sahih (authentic)." *
So the question arises, “Why did she die angry with Abu Bakr?!?”
Now what would you say that I show you some hadith from Shia sources that Hz. Fatimah (ra) was angry with Hz. Ali (ra)? Just out of respect I am holding it back.
Are you really Curious enough to know? Just say so. Apply the same rules to Hz. Ali (ar) as you are applying to Hz. Abu Bakr (ra). Let’s how fair you are.
Curious One, what do you get of denouncing the sahaba? No one asked you to sing their praises, just respect them all. You were never alive in those times, you dotn know how things worked back then, things like these are better left alone.
Why all the animosity?? I just put two ahadith together thats it.
So the question arises, "Why did she die angry with Abu Bakr?!?"
Now what would you say that I show you some hadith from Shia sources that Hz. Fatimah (ra) was angry with Hz. Ali (ra)? Just out of respect I am holding it back.
For one I can quote alot of ahadith from other sources, and if we went in that direction, we will be going round and round in circles. That is why I refrained from it and quoted ahadit only from Sahi Bukhari. I just asked a simple question about two ahadit from Sahi Bukhari and this is the response I get.
Are you really Curious enough to know? Just say so. Apply the same rules to Hz. Ali (ar) as you are applying to Hz. Abu Bakr (ra). Let's how fair you are.
The question still remains? Why did she die angry with Abu Bakr?? Regardless of who else she was angry with. If she was angry with someone else be it Hz Ali or any other sahabi, based on Sahi Bukhari's haidith Prophet Mohammad (saww) will be agnry with that person as well. If she was agnry with Hz Ali till the time of her death then yes it means (based on Sahi Bukhari's) hadith that Propeht will be agnry with him as well.
And hence my next question would be why do we believe in hz Ali being a khalifa??
So Ibn Sadique now I have two queries the orignal one and one about Hz Ali as well.
Brother I am sorry if I offended you. My intentions are to not just respect sahaba's but other sects as well, but that is only possible if I can understand them as well, that is why I asked this question.
So even though Haz Ali had every right (sharai haq) to marry another woman, but just becuase like any other woman, Hz Fatima was upset about it, and at that time Propeht said "whoever angers Hz Fatima angers me..", to me it seems like that propeht is saying that even if hz fatima gets agnry with someone (regardless of whehter the other person is at fault or not) I will get angry with that person as well.
Doesn't it mean that even if Hz Abu Bakar was right about inheritance issue, but since Hz Fatima was angry at him till her death, rasool Allah would be angry as well??
Doesn't it mean that even if Hz Abu Bakar was right about inheritance issue, but since Hz Fatima was angry at him till her death, rasool Allah would be angry as well??
There is an aya in Quran where Allah swt said not to say "uffff" to your parents, does it mean that even if they are wrong/telling you to do wrong you can't say "uffff"? Use some sense that Allah swt has given you.
if u have no bad intentions
why r u on fault finding mission? try to find good about the sahabas and i am sure there will be lot of hadiths available to prove that
that would require him to change his name from Curious one to Appreciative One. he says he’s not picking faults but trying to learn by finding faults in people have already passed away and cannot speak for themselves May Allah swt guide him
May Allah swt guide him