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May be this will make those who have their heads up Arab ass to see things differently. It is terrible. Hope Pakistan wakes up and realizes who her friends are. They are certainly not the terrorists.
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Nice racist statement keep up the good work You must be real upset the BJP lost election recently!
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Any idea, why Pakistani news outlets are repeating that he is of Pakistani origin, whereas the rest of the world media is saying that he is from Lebanon?
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The marine is a Lebanese American.. The Pakistani in their custody is a KBR employee, a truck driver I think..
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The marine is a Lebanese American.. The Pakistani in their custody is a KBR employee, a truck driver I think..
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-Yeah, I know about that truck driver too. But all day yesterday Geo and ARY were reporting that the marine is also of Pakistani origin.
More about the truck driver, Amjad Hafeez
**The family of a Pakistani man held captive in Iraq has issued an emotional appeal for his release.
“I appeal to those people in the name of humanity, please release my son,” said Saeeda Jan, the mother of the hostage, Amjad Hafeez.
"My son is innocent. He had only gone to work there. We are poor and are completely dependant on him -Saeeda Jan, mother **
Very sad what these people are doing. Kidnapping translators, truck drivers, people that have nothing to do with this war other than they probably can't find the job anywhere else and have to provide for their familes. These people are straight cowards. To bad their isn't a muslim authority that can stand up and say what these people are doing is wrong. Funny this is person closest to that role is probably none other than Usama bin Laden.
Anyway all this talk about war in the name of Islam. That theory goes right out the window if they kill these 5 fellow brothers. Sad, totally sad. Shame on ourselves, no one else. These people had the muslim on their sides but i hope the ummah will see that this is not Islam and this is not the path to the promised land but inshallah the promise to an eternal life with Shaitaan.
"OG it doesnt matter if he's a jew or a muslim, what's wrong is wrong, and what those terrorists are doing is unislamic in the first place."
Wise words, I was being sarcastic.
I just find all of this entirely depressing, is there no hope for this planet?
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is there no hope for this planet?
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yes but not for that part of the planet.
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Anyway all this talk about war in the name of Islam. That theory goes right out the window if they kill these 5 fellow brothers. .
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Dude that theory went out the window when they started killing innocent people.
I dont understand why people cant see that.
^ This war is against islam and nobody is fooled by your pro amerikkan stance.
AK47 I don't get your response. The war is against Islam so why are the Muslims killing fellow Muslims? They killed dozens in a mosque (a mosque!) in Pakistan and killed over 100 civilian MUSLIMS in one day in Iraq. So who exactly is this war against? Today they threaten to behead a Pakistani. They do not care that he is Muslim, they simply look at this passport. If they don't think of us as Muslims, why should we be more "Catholic than the Pope"?
No Israeli ever called a Pakistani "rafiq." (racist term used by Arabs on Pakistanis). No American ever withheld pay or beat a Pakistani employee (commonly done to expats in places like Saudi Arabia).
It's time to turn our back on them and think of ourselves. Kudos to Musharraf for seeing through this facade four years ago.
there is no outrage in arab world over sudan
‘We Want to Make a Light Baby’
Arab Militiamen in Sudan Said to Use Rape as Weapon of Ethnic Cleansing
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16001-2004Jun29.html
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AK47 I don't get your response. The war is against Islam so why are the Muslims killing fellow Muslims? They killed dozens in a mosque (a mosque!) in Pakistan and killed over 100 civilian MUSLIMS in one day in Iraq. So who exactly is this war against? Today they threaten to behead a Pakistani. They do not care that he is Muslim, they simply look at this passport. If they don't think of us as Muslims, why should we be more "Catholic than the Pope"?
No Israeli ever called a Pakistani "rafiq." (racist term used by Arabs on Pakistanis). No American ever withheld pay or beat a Pakistani employee (commonly done to expats in places like Saudi Arabia).
It's time to turn our back on them and think of ourselves. Kudos to Musharraf for seeing through this facade four years ago.
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Yes you want to turn your back and fall into the old trap of the colonialists.
Divide and rule a trick which the british and now amerikkans have played for over a century now, you don`t know who these kidnapper people are how do you know they are even muslims they are masked and only source of information we are getting is a website, secondly the amerikkans are telling us its the invisible al qaida again and since when have the amerikkans been known to tell the truth.
As for israeli never beat a pakistani what do you base that on i have had my friend beaten up in palestine by 4 israeli cops when he went to al aqsa mosque for a visit. Secondly the amerikkans not only beat pakistanis up they put them in prison call them terrorists and set dogs on them you ever heard of guantanamo bay?
As for saudi arabia beating up employees form pakland or phillipines or wherever saudi is not an islamic state its a monarchy and far worse than beatings happen there. As for employees in amerikka i am sure people have there rights protected but also people are abused as well its not as picture perfect as you may think.
You want to take a nationalist stance by saying mushrraff says pakistan first well unless you can quote me from islamic text where nationalism is allowed then untill then as a muslim i reject this racist call.
If some arab people abuse pakistanis then allah(swt) will account them, but don`t label entire muslims from middle east as abusers or racists.
This war is against islam, if it is against terrorism as they claim why is the amerikkans beloved israel allowed to carry on as if nothing happened, why is it that palces like chechnya muslims are hunted down and whole villages wiped out, why is it that in china the muslim there are persecuted and terrorised and world says nothing.
Don`t belive the hype about war on terror this is a war against islam plain and simple even if your a luke warm muslim they still see you as a potential threat!
Jazakkkallah brother AK47.
Tutt.. Tutt…
From where shall I begin…
Okay..
“MehnazQ” said:-
I’ll make an excuse for you about this statement you made. Because, it seems to me that your ignorant of the rulings of Jihad. To behead the Kuffar in a War was actually done by the Companions and approved by the Messenger of Allaah.
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=47&tid=48912
Also, check out this Brave and Courageous Woman from the Sahabiyat…
http://anwary-islam.com/women/m-womens_safiyah.htm
Will you accuse them of “un-Islaamic” and disgusting acts?
We only take from Islaam, not what the Kuffar tell us.
“Tums” said:
You make a Du’aa that Allaah curses your brothers??? What Religion do you follow? Who has sanctioned what you have just said?
You say you are sickened by their misinterpretation? Bring forth your Proof as to where they have misinterpreted?
Allaah says:
“Produce your proof if you are truthful.” (Al-Baqarah 2:111)
This statement is ridiculous. But I will make an excuse for you because you’re a Muslim.
If people leave Islaam because of the beheadings – Big Deal. (Although I say your statement is hugely exaggerated).
Allaah says:
O you who believe! Whoever from among you turns back from his Religion, Allaah will bring a people whom He will love and they will love Him; humble towards the believers, stern towards the disbelievers, fighting in the Way of Allaah, and never afraid of the blame of the blamers. That is the Grace of Allaah which He bestows on whom He wills. And Allaah is All-Sufficient for His creatures’ needs, All-Knower. (Al-Ma’idah 5:54)
Never will the Jews nor the Christians be pleased with you till you follow their religion. Say: "Verily, the Guidance of Allaah (i.e. Islamic Monotheism) that is the (only) Guidance. And if you were to follow their (Jews and Christians) desires after what you have received of Knowledge (i.e. the Quraan), then you would have against Allaah neither any Wali (protector or guardian) nor any helper. 2:120
Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And they will never cease fighting you until they turn you back from your religion if they can. And whosoever of you turns back from his religion and dies as a disbeliever, then his deeds will be lost in this life and in the Hereafter, and they will be the dwellers of the Fire. They will abide therein forever." Surah al-Baqarah 2:217
A name does not mean anything! We judge the apparent actions. So if a person commits an ACT OF APOSTASY, we judge him upon the Apparent. And this man had joined the Army of the Kuffar to assist them AGAINST the Muslims. This is Major Disbelief (Kufr). This act, takes you out of the fold of Islaam. And there is no difference of opinion on this issue whatsoever amongst the Scholars.
Our brother Ak47, may Allaah Bless him, said:
The brave Mujahid, the ’Ameer, Abu Mus’ab az-Zaraqawi, claimed responsibility for the last beheadings brother. : )
“Fraudz” said:
Actually, they let them go. But it was absolutely permissible to kill those Turks, because they were there assisting the Americans against the Muslims! But the Mujahideen probably let them go, because they must know the Ummah might turn against them, as they are aware of the ignorance within the Muslim Ummah as can clearly be seen by the responses of Muslims towards these captures and beheadings. May Allaah Guide these Muslims who sit on their rear-ends while our mothers are raped and our children are molested. They just sit and bash and defame the Mujahideen who went out to do something!
What are you talking about? What innocents?
They are the ones defending the Muslim Human Life. What are you doing mate? You can’t even do the least of your obligations, that is to defend their honour when it is attacked. As for the life of the Kuffar who are at War with us, if they are captured and taken as prisoners of Wars, the Mercy of Islaam is beautiful and they are treat with laws sanctioned in the Sharee’ah. And the Mujahdieen know what they are doing. So please all those people who said the Mujahideen contradicted the Religion – SHOW US YOUR PROOF!!!
“Madhanee” said:
Don’t really understand what you mean. ‘Arab or non-‘Arab, our allegiance and love should be towards those who are True Believers. Your statement seems to have some element of Nationalism and Racism in it. May Allaah guide you out of your sick Ignorance.
The Prophet sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam also said: “Indeed there is no excellence for an ‘arab over a non-‘arab, nor a non-‘arab over an ‘arab, nor a white person over a black one, nor a black person over a white one, except through Taqwaa (piety and obedience to Allaah).” Related by Ahmad (5/411) and it was authenticated by Ibn Taymiyyah in Kitaabul-Iqtidaa (p.69).
Pakistan has already made its alliance and close friendship with the Enemies of Allaah and His Messenger. The Government of Pakistan is a government of Disbelief whose alliance is towards the U.N. and Powell.
“Goliko” said:
It does not matter if he was a dustbin man on their bases or a soldier armed with their rifles. His act was clear apostasy! I repeat again, to ASSIST THE KUFFAR AGAINST THE MUSLIMS WITH ANY TYPE OF ASSITANCE IS AN ACT OF KUFR (DISBELIEF) WHICH REMOVES YOU FROM THE YOKE OF ISLAAM.
This Idiots translation had a substantial importance to the Barbaric Army of the Americans. How else do they get their corrupt message of falsehood and democracy and preaching Christianity to the people of ‘Iraq. Through interpreters like this hypocrite.
“Laeqqkhan” said:
What about the Indian Muslims??? Why all this Nationalism?? We are Muslims first, second and last. The Prophet Sallaallaahu ‘Alayhi Was-Sallam has freed himself from the Nationalists of this Ummah.
And how did this word “terrorist” come about? Was it through the Kuffar Media? Just curious?
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Very sad what these people are doing. Kidnapping translators, truck drivers, people that have nothing to do with this war other than they probably can't find the job anywhere else and have to provide for their familes.
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This is such a defeated and ignorant view. Translators are helping the American Army, truck drivers are helping the American Army, so indeed they have A LOT TO DO WITH THE WAR AGIANST THE MUSLIMS!! They are assisting the criminal disbelievers against the Muslims.
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These people are straight cowards. To bad their isn't a muslim authority that can stand up and say what these people are doing is wrong. Funny this is person closest to that role is probably none other than Usama bin Laden.
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No, rather the cowards are America and her Allies which include Mr. Fahd of “Saudia” Arabia and Busharraf of Pakistan. They are the cowards. And the other cowards are the so-called Muslims who are sat on their rear-ends watching their bellies grow fat, yapping on mics on the internet and typing crap on forums, backbiting and lying and slandering the men of this Nation who rose up to defend the Muslim women who were raped, to avenge their honour, to defend the orphans and to regain back the land of the Muslims.
This land of ‘Iraq is the same land the Companions of the Messenger spilt their blood upon, and these apologetic Muslims dare to dishonour the men and women who are defending their fellow brothers and sisters.
And the Imam And ’Ameer of the Mujahideen Usamah ibn Laden will support these actions of the Mujahideen, he does not display hypocrisy, unlike many other so-called Muslims.
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Anyway all this talk about war in the name of Islam. That theory goes right out the window if they kill these 5 fellow brothers. Sad, totally sad. Shame on ourselves, no one else. These people had the muslim on their sides but i hope the ummah will see that this is not Islam and this is not the path to the promised land but inshallah the promise to an eternal life with Shaitaan.
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You have shown your total ignorance of the Religion and the Rulings of warfare. Did you ever hear these “Muslims” say they are Muslims. And even if they did, so what? Their actions show us they are not Muslims.
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I just find all of this entirely depressing, is there no hope for this planet?
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You find the beheading of some Kuffar to be depressing? Okay, what about the men these Kuffar sodomised, what about the children they molested, the Muslim women they raped and made widows, what about the orphans, the hanidcaps as a result of their war on Islaam. Their atrocities are too numerous to write down. And you find a couple of Kuffar who are beheaded "depressing".
Why are you people all ranting on so much about these FEW Kuffar who have been beheaded! Stop moaning and crying over some filthy Kuffar who were in ‘Iraq with the American Army to kill and slaughter our women and children!
If only the Muslims acted like this for the Muslims who have been killed, tortured, raped, molested, made homeless etc etc etc. Where is your hate and enmity towards these Disbelievers?!!!
I ask you all in the Name of Allaah which Religion do you follow?
Is it the Religion of Ibraheem ’Alayhis-Salaam who we are commanded to follow in the Quraan because of his enmity and hatred towards the Enemies of Allaah.
Indeed there has been an excellent example for you in Ibraaheem and those with him, when they said to their people: “Verily, we are free from you and whatever you worship besides Allaah, we have rejected you, and it has become openly seen between us and you, hostility and hatred for ever, until you believe in Allaah Alone.” Al-Mumtahinah.
Fear Allaah!!!
Now is the time, to delcare your allegiance to the Mujahideen or to the Crusaders. It's your life, your Akhirah. Make the right choice.
Maybe i am missing something here, but who made Usama the “Imam and Ameer” 
Seriously I will be ashamed to have such a man as the Ameer. Someone who orders fanatics to blow up trains, board planes and fly em into buildings, blow up embassies…I ask what about the one million protestors in London who marched against the war in Iraq?? Do they deserve to be blown up as well??
He is the 'Ameer of the Mujahideen.
He is an Imam for the Monethiests who seek to establish the Law and Order of Allah.
By way of Imaam, I do not mean an Imam in the sense the Khalifah is called an Imam.
Imam and Ameer Osama 
whats all the fuss about...just because he is a pakistani/american/turkish...??? how about those innocent (iraqi) ppl who die everyday in their own homeland?