LOL----poor fella finds problem with half a dozen sources… tck tck tck may be muj ka dunda has taken its toll… What next Gujarat was land on milk and honey before muj started shafting… 
Farookh was re-instated in 1987
Whats your excuse for Atimes 
While most elections in Kashmir have been rigged, what was distinctive about the 1987 election was that fraud was combined with violence. Polling agents of the Muslim United Front (MUF) were thrown out of booths and beaten up. Several of those who subsequently joined the militant ranks were eyewitnesses to the electoral fraud perpetrated by the Indian state.
The 1987 election undermined the Kashmiris’ faith in the ballot box. It convinced the youth that with the ballot having failed them, they would have to turn to the bullet to deliver.
In the 1987 elections, then, New Delhi lost the minds of the Kashmiri people. In 1990, it lost their hearts as well when security forces killed scores of protesters at Gau Kadal. The underground militant movement was transformed into a popular uprising. The sheer size of street protests challenging Indian rule and their spontaneity shook New Delhi as never before.
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Whats your excuse for Atimes
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Where does it say that Kashmiri's life was miserable during 1948-88 ?? All it say is about rigging Elections. Where does it say that Kashmiris were raped,killed between 1948-88 which you took from the fake link of Gaurdian which also reported false.
Why can't your get the Human Rights Data between 1948-88 yaar which says 70000000000000 Indian army men raped,killed kashmiris during 1948-88 ?? If you dont have the HRW report then please say so instead of parroting the same line again and again.
And the underground movement became popular for nothing, try anothetr excuse
Polling agents of the Muslim United Front (MUF) were thrown out of booths and beaten up.
security forces killed scores of protesters at Gau Kadal. The underground militant movement was transformed into a popular uprising. The sheer size of street protests challenging Indian rule and their spontaneity shook New Delhi as never before.
Here is another one from HRW..
Kashmiri youth and the pro-Pakistan Jama’at-i Islami, an Islamic political organization, and appeared poised to do well in state elections in 1987. Blatant rigging assured a National Conference victory, which was followed by the arrests of hundreds of MUF leaders and supporters. In the aftermath, young MUF supporters swelled the ranks of agrowing number of militant groups who increasingly crossed over to Pakistan for arms and training. The major militant organizations were divided between those advocating an independent Kashmir and those supporting accession to Pakistan. In the late 1980s, the groups began assassinating NC leaders and engaging in other acts of violence. Some groups also targeted Hindu families, and a slow exodus of Hindus from the valley began.
From HT..
In May 1987, Farooq Abdullah’s motorcade was attacked on the way to the mosque. This was the first direct attack against him. And it was also a sign of the looming clouds of terror which would shadow the valley in the coming years. Meanwhile, unemployment continued to rise in the state and Farooq was unable to address the problem.
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security forces killed scores of protesters at Gau Kadal. The underground militant movement was transformed into a popular uprising. The sheer size of street protests challenging Indian rule and their spontaneity shook New Delhi as never before.
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See, this is what I have been telling - How you change the facts - Like the above statement of your didn't happen before 1989 - It happened in 1990 which you purposely didn't include to prove your point, here it is from you own POST
**In 1990, it lost their hearts as well when security forces killed scores of protesters at Gau Kadal. **
Another one of your Poor attempts Abdali - Try again(this one was really pathetic).
So far you have been able to prove nothing. Again you are caught red handed.
tck tck tck nothing happend in 87… caught 7th time with pants down :hehe:
http://www.panunkashmir.org/tribune-eth-clean.html
Jammu Feb 5:- The Panun Kashmir Movement (PKM) headed by Mr. Ashwani Kumar, has called upon national and international agencies to take note of the human rights violations to which Kashmiri Hindus have been subjected to during the past eight years.
In a voluminous report on human rights violations in the state released here today, ** the PKM has listed names of Pandits who had been murdered by secessionists in the State since 1987 ** and of those whose movable and immovable property had been destroyed an d looted. Names of over 75 temples and other Hindu shrines destroyed between 1990 and 1993 have also been listed in the report.
And all this was being done by Indian Govt ?? This means that despite of all that Indian Govt didn’t send its troops untill 1989. So you prove my point here.
BTW - When was Farookh’s Govt re-instated ?? and What was the year Gau kadal ??
Only you can laugh after being caught red-handed ( or in your language - Pants down)
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And all this was being done by Indian Govt ?? This means that despite of all that Indian Govt didn't send its troops untill 1989. So you prove my point here.
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hahaha LOL so now you are changing story, I thought nothing happened in 87. Ther were no killings / secessionists it started in 89........ It was the land of peace with ski resorts, Seems like poor pandits had to disagree with you.
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hahaha LOL so now you are changing story, I thought nothing happened in 87. Ther were no killings / secessionists it started in 89........ It was the land of peace with ski resorts, Seems like poor pandits had to disagree with you.
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You are the one who changed the story - first you said Indian Govt made the Kashmiri's life miserable - Farookh re-instated in 87. What now - You are going to run to Maharaja ?? or may be to Zainul-Abdin's days ??
abdali what was the situation in kashmir right after 1971 war and after simla agreeemnt? is it due to rigging od elections? or more interference
from pakistan once pakistan felt comfortable after reaching nuclear capability?pakistan thought it can drive out indian forces under the threat of nulcear blackmail . this strategy did not work .
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You are the one who changed the story - first you said Indian Govt made the Kashmiri's life miserable - Farookh re-instated in 87. What now - You are going to run to Maharaja ?? or may be to Zainul-Abdin's days ??
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Oh really, here, this is what you said..
** "We practiced it until 1989. Go and read about the lives of Kashmiris before the Terrorism started in 1989." **
So it did not start in 87 right..... May be you should start reading your own posts first. And stop beating around the bush about Farooq blah blah blah just read your post what you said.
abdli whatever you say pakistan thinks if nothing happens in kashmir
kashmirs may accept to be part of india. so violence only help perpetuate pakistani claims to kashmir. you have to keep pot boiling.
no violence or killing favor india .
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So it did not start in 87 right..... May be you should start reading your own posts first. And stop beating around the bush about Farooq blah blah blah just read your post what you said.
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So it was basically the terrorist which made the Kashmiri's life miserable in 87. Stop blaming the Indian govt for that then.
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So it was basically the terrorist which made the Kashmiri's life miserable in 87. Stop blaming the Indian govt for that then.
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Thats not the point, You said terrorism started in 89 when it was started in 87 when your govt rigged elections and tortured/killed MFU activist locking 100s of them behind bars. Perhaps you want to read Christian Science Monitor your govt has killed most kashmiris in this uprising.....
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Thats not the point, You said terrorism started in 89 when it was started in 87 when your govt rigged elections and tortured/killed MFU activist locking 100s of them behind bars. Perhaps you want to read Christian Science Monitor your govt has killed most kashmiris in this uprising.....
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Where is the proof of Killing (The atimes link you posted talks about the killings in 1990) and let's not talk about the Gaurdian link because It says Farookh's govt was re-instated in 1987.
Your shouting isn't going to help. Get some proof. Terrorism started in 1989 even your links suggest that. Now dont deny that.
There is a Difference rigging elections and killing people.
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Where is the proof of Killing (The atimes link you posted talks about the killings in 1990) and let's not talk about the Gaurdian link because It says Farookh's govt was re-instated in 1987.
Your shouting isn't going to help. Get some proof. Terrorism started in 1989 even your links suggest that. Now dont deny that.
There is a Difference rigging elections and killing people.
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WoW, it took 7 links to nail you to the wall, couple posts above you are in addmission about terrorism in 87, ** (So it was basically the terrorist which made the Kashmiri's life miserable in 87 ) ** And now you are reverting back to 89......
And who started killing pandits in 87, santa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ** the PKM has listed names of Pandits who had been murdered by secessionists in the State since 1987 **
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WoW, it took 7 links to nail you to the wall, couple posts above you are in addmission about terrorism in 87, * (So it was basically the terrorist which made the Kashmiri's life miserable in 87 ) ** And now you are reverting back to 89......
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7 LINKS or 7 LIES ?? All caught red handed.
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And who started killing pandits in 87, santa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ** the PKM has listed names of Pandits who had been murdered by secessionists in the State since 1987 **
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So it was Terrorists who killed innocents, right ?
You are trapped here badly - First you said we should practise what we preach and when I said we did until 1989 now you yourself are acepting that Terrorists (and not the Army) made the kashmiris life miserable.
Why blame the Army then ??
**It is in the Chinese tradition to value an old friend," said Wang Yi. “Pakistan is our neighbour as well as your neighbour. Our relationship with Pakistan is based on the principles of panchshila (five principles of peaceful co-existence). It is not targeted at a third country.”
This is why, Wang added, China could not understand why “our Indian friends are suspicious about the China-Pakistan relationship.” **
On Kashmir:
**Asked for China’s views on terrorist attacks in Kashmir and elsewhere in India, the vice minister stated categorically that the killing of innocents “falls squarely within the scope of terrorism” which had been condemned by the international community.
But he quickly added that the question of Kashmir was not related merely to terrorism and counter-terrorism. It was a “left-over from history, from the aftermath of British colonialism” and it involved “very complicated territorial and religious issues.”**
Rvikz, what does India want? We all know Israel-India nexus against Pakistan. The source you have provided says India-Pakistan should fight against Terrorism. Why Vajpayee keeps himself away from Musharraf? You can’t make a clap with one hand. Can you?
Go right at the top and read one more time you said terrorism started in 89… But all the links are pointing at 87 with the reason as to why… Here is another 8th link :rotfl: to nail you further to the wall…
http://www.zmag.org/southasia/kashtime.htm
1987 - The Muslim parties contest the election as the Muslim United Front (MUF) against Farooq’s Conference-Congress alliance. Record numbers participate. The MUF expects 10 seats of 44 but wins 4. Charges of rigging are widespread.
** The insurgency in the valley increases in momentum from this point on. ** Farooq blames unemployment, especially educated unemployment, with numbers of 40-50 000 unemployed graduates. ** Others blame the theft of the election as the closure of political space making a resort to armed struggle inevitable. India responds with repression. **
What is your excuse this time… 