Pls take some time and find out what we have come across in the recent American-Afghan war. People, Muslims went on to join quranite jihad from different countries. What was the force encouraging them, or I say their mind, what opportunity they were having that is promised in quran at such moment and stuffed in their mind. A short cut to heaven, only a fool can go that way or off course a mind shaped in Madrisa.
It is a challenge. Close down Madrisas and Islam will become a cultured religion.
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**Dear Fact finder,
Pls take some time and find out what we have come across in the recent American-Afghan war. People, Muslims went on to join quranite jihad from different countries. What was the force encouraging them, or I say their mind, what opportunity they were having that is promised in quran at such moment and stuffed in their mind. A short cut to heaven, only a fool can go that way or off course a mind shaped in Madrisa.
It is a challenge. Close down Madrisas and Islam will become a cultured religion.
Rgds**
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You miss the point. It is not the madrassahs. It is a struggle against the 'crusade'. It is a struggle against atrocities. Just like in Kashmir. As long as the Indian army continues killing and raping, there will be mujahideen. You believe catching a few leaders will end it. That is folly. It will grow more rapidly until the cause is removed and Kashmir is liberated.
Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.
Wait! We are at a religious forum.
You may tell me what is Islam? Religion or politics?
You have jumped over to Kashmir. What struggle is going on in Kashmir? An Islamic extremism cannot be a struggle, but it is vulgarity on the name of religion. Kashmir does not belong to a particular religion.
So I come back to the Madrisa mind. Wherever Muslims are in minority they complain of atrocities, when they are in good numbers, they demand a partition, where they are in majority they compel minorities to migrate. This is the whole phenomenon.
Let us decide, if Islam is a politics, it will be easy for world community to get rid of this ideology.
We know that you are infactuated by the Madrasah system, and keep rambling on like a parrot. But please answer my questions concerning your research on your previous comments.
Furthermore, instead of jumping onto the bandwagon with the rest of the current wave of anti islamic sentiments, try and think for yourself and make at least ONE viable contribution on this Forum. This way we will know that your intelligence level is not restricted to your 'Hindu caste system typical Indian' upbringing mentallity.
At least this way, you can begin to repair your credibility and self respect (what's left of it that is).
Finally, as I have stated time and time before, the Quran has predicted and summed you up to a tee:
CHAPTER NO. 005
82. Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Idol Worshippers;......
Therefore your comments are not surprising in the least.
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Originally posted by anand:
**Fact finder,
Wait! We are at a religious forum.
You may tell me what is Islam? Religion or politics?
You have jumped over to Kashmir. What struggle is going on in Kashmir? An Islamic extremism cannot be a struggle, but it is vulgarity on the name of religion. Kashmir does not belong to a particular religion.
So I come back to the Madrisa mind. Wherever Muslims are in minority they complain of atrocities, when they are in good numbers, they demand a partition, where they are in majority they compel minorities to migrate. This is the whole phenomenon.
Let us decide, if Islam is a politics, it will be easy for world community to get rid of this ideology.**
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Islam is a way of life. It is a zabtai hayat. The beauty of it is that it encompasses everything, unlike other religions.
Every post that you have made is pointing in one direction. The use of madrassahs to train mujahids. Is this discussion not politically motivted? I purposely mentioned Kashmir to antagonise you, and you fell for it.
Kashmir is by right a Muslim state. Hindus are not within their rights in occupying it. Go and see the UN Resolution to learn history. Go and see the basis of partition. Go and see the treachery the Raja of Kashmir committed in 1947. Go and see the atrocities that the large army contingent is perpetrating against a genuine freedom struggle of the Kashmiris. It is not cross-border terrorism.
Before that get your doctor to treat your jaundice, otherwise you will not see the correct colour of things.
Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.
We are talking the same language. I am always happy when someone from Muslim side agrees to the politics behind Islam.
I repeat that Islam is the only active religion left so far. As rest of the religions have entered an era of atheism.
Only a fool can be proud of the active aspects of Islam, because the mind is shaped in a Madrisa. You did not tell me why Muslims from different countries were ready to die in funny jihad in Afghanistan? What was the opportunity they found against flying American planes? It was not a fight for any just cause. Or at large they could kill some of from Northern Alliance, also Muslims.
People ready to die in Afghanistan were all outcome of Madrisa..
What right a Madrisa has to program the mind of a minor of 6 or 7 of age?
I have to limit myself, or once I was banned for exposing the actual nature of Islam.
You have a benefit. The same minds are there to defend you.
Rgds, and once again best wishes & a prosperous, happy new year!
(There are a lot of complexes in Pak mentality over Kashmir. You lost East Pakistan; your own country is not very stable. First exact your mess, then we may talk whatever belongs to India.)
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Originally posted by anand: We are talking the same language. I am always happy when someone from Muslim side agrees to the politics behind Islam.
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False perceptions are very pleasing to people with limited grey matter. You and I are poles apart.
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I repeat that Islam is the only active religion left so far. As rest of the religions have entered an era of atheism.**
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Or, idol worship. Alhumdo Lillah! I consider myself lucky and thank Allah for sending me to a practicing Muslim family.
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Only a fool can be proud of the active aspects of Islam, because the mind is shaped in a Madrisa.**
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Tell me why do you always bring in the madrisa bit. All practicing Muslims think on the same lines, whether they have been to madrisa or not. I have been to a Catholic Missionary school all my life. I have never seen a madrisa in my life. But I am "proud of the active aspects of Islam". Alhumdo Lillah, Islam will always be active until the Day of Resurrection.
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You did not tell me why Muslims from different countries were ready to die in funny jihad in Afghanistan? What was the opportunity they found against flying American planes?**
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Because they did not expect such a cowardly action from America. You call that a war? I call it genocide. The 11 Sept. has not been proved and justice is not by war, they should have been tried. The countless who were murdered had nothing to do with the incident. Insha Allah, those responsible will pay. Time will tell.
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It was not a fight for any just cause. Or at large they could kill some of from Northern Alliance, also Muslims.**
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Your perception. Not mine.
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People ready to die in Afghanistan were all outcome of Madrisa..
What right a Madrisa has to program the mind of a minor of 6 or 7 of age?**
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You are obsessed by madrisas for some reason. May this be perpetual, Insha Allah.
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I have to limit myself, or once I was banned for exposing the actual nature of Islam.**
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I don't blame them. In the couple of months I have been o the forum, I have not seen a proper discussion from you. Only garbage and stereotyped statements. The admin have to keep the forum clean whenever the garbage stinks beyond limit.
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You have a benefit. The same minds are there to defend you.**
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My defender is only Allah. I have gone and taken this cause to NYTimes forum, which is predominantly Zionist.