No, not the quran, but the website…
the height of propaganda, and religious propaganda at that… to use a name like that for a website that spews hatred and levies baseless charges on Islam, prophet Muhammad, in short, anything remotely attached to Islam.
Wish I, for one, had the religious and academic fortitude needed to disprove these claims effectively, instead of blind faith…
hereby resolve to learn more about my religion!
There are many sites opearted by people who have nothing else to do.
But, I find some pleasure in this as it gives me the comfort that people have started realising the strngth of Islam and are waging a war on all fronts. Insha Allah, they will lose.
Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.
Well, Mr. Double Roti, you are doing what the founders of that site want you to do, doing publicity for them. I always think that people like Salman Rushdi and Tasleema Nasreen became so much famous, because we gave them so much publicity.
Al-Farooq, ignoring it is one way of dealing with it, but also at times have to meet it head on...
i found nothing insulting on the website...confused here
Have you heard "beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder"?
Similarly, understanding lies in the way the mind has been raised.
Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.
Islam is a blind faith. The only reason is that majority of Muslims are bound to go thru Madrisa system. A minor of six or seven of age is exposed to quran. What can we expect of him? His mind is shaped not to question any thing of quran and the Prophet.
Rushdie and Nasreen have written whatever is explained in quran, but their attitude cold not be consumed by all Madrisa grown up Muslims.
Well, The founders claim to quote everything from Quran and claim they are not interpreting.
Interesting.
I think if any Guppie is concerned that the web site is distorting, they should give cogent arguments in favour of their point of view.
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Originally posted by anand:
Islam is a blind faith. The only reason is that majority of Muslims are bound to go thru Madrisa system. A minor of six or seven of age is exposed to quran. What can we expect of him? His mind is shaped not to question any thing of quran and the Prophet.
Rushdie and Nasreen have written whatever is explained in quran, but their attitude cold not be consumed by all Madrisa grown up Muslims.
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LOL!
Have you copy/pasted this from somewhere?
These are the stereotyped comments of people who do not know and prefer to remain uninformed.
If you do not wish to cover your bets, the choice is yours.
Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.
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Originally posted by Andhra:
Well, The founders claim to quote everything from Quran and claim they are not interpreting.
Interesting.
I think if any Guppie is concerned that the web site is distorting, they should give cogent arguments in favour of their point of view.
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I don't think we have to answer a mongrel on the road. Let him bark.
Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.
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Originally posted by double roti:
**No, not the quran, but the website....
the height of propaganda, and religious propaganda at that..... to use a name like that for a website that spews hatred and levies baseless charges on Islam, prophet Muhammad, in short, anything remotely attached to Islam.
Wish I, for one, had the religious and academic fortitude needed to disprove these claims effectively, instead of blind faith....
hereby resolve to learn more about my religion!**
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"Caution: There is Another anti-Islamic Site"
Why issuing an alert letter is precisely the wrong thing to do?
By Khalid Baig
Posted: 21 Ramadan 1422, 7 December 2001
The alert letters keep coming. Beware here is the latest anti-Islamic site. Then a URL so you can verify that it is indeed as described. Then a passionate request to tell all the Muslims in the world about it.
Sincere. Misguided. Counter-productive.
Little do the senders realize that they are actually helping the very sites they are trying to fight.
The failure is in realizing that the Internet is a very different medium and the rules that applied to the previous media do not always apply here. If there is a bad magazine or book out there, you can tell others about it. We can be sure that nobody will rush to the closest bookseller to buy it. The warning may be useful, if there was a chance that some people could have bought the book out of ignorance.
In the click-click world of the Internet, the first thing most people will do is to click on the URL, thereby increasing the hit counts and boasting the morale of the site owners. Second, it will help it with search engine placement, as some of them will use the increased curiosity traffic as a sign of popularity. You just helped create the monster you wanted to fight!
It is common sense. If you don't want people to visit a site, just don't tell them about it.
It is very easy to setup a page on the Internet. It is very difficult to draw traffic to it. The most anti-Islamic site will die if it faces a frozen counter. That would happen if you just leave it alone. But if you are out there telling everyone about it and asking them to do the same, you are in effect volunteering as their publicity department. That is exactly what they need.
If there is a well-established site (like CNN) it makes sense to launch a protest campaign. But for most of the sites the prudent course is just the opposite. Leave it alone. Let it die of neglect. A natural death. The greater the lack of attention, the faster will be the death of this would be monster.
So the next time you receive an alert letter about an anti-Islamic site, just delete it. If you respond to the sender, do not include the original text of his alert email, because even that may help some search engine ranking.
There were dozens of anti-Islamic sites that sprang up recently but died soon after because, luckily, our enthusiasts had not noticed them and had not publicized them through their alert letters. The ones that receive the alert letter mention will, unfortunately, survive and may thrive.
On the Internet, the best use of your energies is to promote the good Islamic sites. Let the good drive out the evil.
Now, may we request that you send this article to all your friends
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It was posted in General forum…
**BE CAREFUL there are certain anti-Islam groups are trying to
produce a new
Quran!! Some
enemies of
Islam have established an on-line Quran Surah with addition some
self-written SURAH; examples can be seen on the web site on the
Internet (shown below). It’s very dangerous for the Muslim
world,
especially for the newly converted Muslims or the Muslims who
don’t know
much about Islam and Quran; they might read all this FALSE and
Bad material.
sites shown below) to
One of the sites as an example of their Quran is: http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/geq96/original http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/geq96/original>
THOSE WHO READ THE QUR-AN AND UNDERSTAND THE ARABIC LANGUAGE CAN
EASILY MAKE OUT THE DIFFERENCE)
There is another site that it is suspected to be launched by
the Israelis; it is now under development: http://www.thequran.com
be aware and be careful…**
Take away love, and our earth is a tomb!
Close down all Madrisas and the result will be there. Islam will lose its violent nature.
All kind of above website and criticism to Islam will become irrelevant.
It is a challenge!
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Originally posted by anand:
**Close down all Madrisas and the result will be there. Islam will lose its violent nature. All kind of above website and criticism to Islam will become irrelevant.
It is a challenge!**
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If we discuss and give importance to sites dealing with maligning Islam due to absence of knowledge, this is the kind of comments we attract.
Anad does not know anything but will put in his two bit thinking that he will be heard. Poor soul.
Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.
I'm a Christian and have been reading some of the Quran and came across some rather confusing verses in the Al-Maidia section.
[al-Ma'idah 5:51] O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.
Some sections of the Quran, I read as you shalt not kill, brothers, sisters, parents, children, muslims.
Here it states to kill....
[an-Nisa' 4:89] They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,
Is Mohammad or Allah stating the above? I don't think God, who said Shalt not Kill; would say to go and kill Jews and Christians as they are Disbelievers wherever you find them.
Very disturbing.
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GHC you have once more like most played right into the hands of Anti-Islam to truly understand the Quran you have to Either Read a Arabic version or an Arabic+english becasue most dont understand how to translate and put up words for them selfs.
(Jesus)(Ie sus)or(ISA) how you address him is a Prophet of the allmighty God so is MOOSA MOSES so you see you cant kill a jew or christian and be forgiven its sin for allah said you if you save one life it will be as if you have saved the whole of man-kind (dosent matter if they are jews,Christians,Bhuddists,Ect...
So you see you have merely misintrepted the Quran as most do but that is understandable.
Anyway where did you acquire this Quran/Koran?
i hope i was able to answer your quries?
I am a Christian!! (as I’m sure u all know, by now…) Anyway, I was reading some of the stuff on the http://www.quran.com site & I’ve never read the Muslims Holy Book be4. So, I was checking that site out, & I was just woundering if the quotes in the site were actually from ‘The Great Koran’???
I re-edited my reply with quotes. Here it is below… The quotes came from the Noble Quran Arabic+English, nothing to do with the website posted above. I never went to the site, I’d rather read the ACTUAL Quran itself than visit an ANTI-site of any kind.
http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif
I’m a Christian and have been reading some of the Quran and came across some rather confusing verses in the Al-Maidia section.
[al-Ma’idah 5:51] O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.
Some sections of the Quran, I read as you shalt not kill, brothers, sisters, parents, children, muslims.
Here it states to kill…
[an-Nisa’ 4:89] They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them.
Is Mohammad or Allah stating the above? I don’t think God, who said Shalt not Kill; would say to go and kill Jews and Christians as they are Disbelievers wherever you find them.
Very disturbing.
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GHC: I understand your point. I am afraid you are reading the whole thing without real context. Read it with the verses just before that and with a little peek in the history and precise timing of those verses. That'll help put the whole thing in perspective.
By the way do visit another thread titled: ** Aminah Assilmi- Muslim hater becomes Muslim herself **. See how Quran has changed her opinion about Quarn and Islam.
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Originally posted by Ezee:
**GHC: I understand your point. I am afraid you are reading the whole thing without real context. Read it with the verses just before that and with a little peek in the history and precise timing of those verses. That'll help put the whole thing in perspective.
By the way do visit another thread titled: ** Aminah Assilmi- Muslim hater becomes Muslim herself **. See how Quran has changed her opinion about Quarn and Islam.
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Thanks, I'll go read that thread and see if it makes sense.