The west

[IsaidwhatIsaid]

Re: The west

@Pakistani_Prince

I am not trying to claim anything, idiot.. I am stating the facts. You have not given any concrete proof or evidence yet and hence the defination still does not support your claim. The last thing you could do was googling and that’s what you did.
Anyhow let me make it clear for you once for all, Only the direct blood relatives come under the category of incest. Go figure it out.

Nope, reals before feels. I at least brought something to the table to support my definition. Your cousins are blood relatives so marrying and producing offspring with them is incest.

[IsaidwhatIsaid]

Re: The west

@Damras

This is because to us in the east, west is abnormal retard. We are different people with different lifestyle and different definition of ‘incest’

I don’t care what you and your ilk think is “abnormal.” We think cousins fcking is abnormal. That is an opinion. What isn’t an opinion is whether or not it is incest. Cousin fcking is incest since they are your blood relatives. Pakistani culture (and the culture of the ME or wherever) may have normalized it but it doesn’t mean it isn’t incest.

[IsaidwhatIsaid]

Re: The west

@Damras

You have to prove ‘scientifically’ that cousin marriage increases the risk of birth defects:

Open your eyes, and close your mouth

Few Risks Seen To the Children Of 1st Cousins

By DENISE GRADY

APRIL 4, 2002

Contrary to widely held beliefs and longstanding taboos in America, first cousins can have children together without a great risk of birth defects or genetic disease, scientists are reporting today. They say there is no biological reason to discourage cousins from marrying.

Few Risks Seen To the Children Of 1st Cousins - The New York Times

Buddy, we weren’t even arguing about birth defects in cousin-cousin marriages but you had to bring it up because…? To make yourself feel better? The original argument was about if cousin fcking is considered incestuous or not and yet you are derailing it with "hurp rup guess what u secular cousin-fcking doesn’t come with too many birth defects after all!!!1"
All this proves is that you cannot prove me wrong about cousin-f*cking being incestuous since you had to artificially insert this into the conversation. You have nothing more to add which is why you are trying to shift the conversation. Pathetic.

[Pakistani_Prince]

Re: The west

@IsaidwhatIsaid

Nope, reals before feels. I at least brought something to the table to support my definition. Your cousins are blood relatives so marrying and producing offspring with them is incest.

MashALLH you are so stubborn. ALLAH or barkat dy.. Kaisy karti ho yai sbb.. bachpan sy he aisi thi ya abb aa kar hoi ho lolz.

[IsaidwhatIsaid]

Re: The west

@Pakistani_Prince

MashALLH you are so stubborn. ALLAH or barkat dy.. Kaisy karti ho yai sbb.. bachpan sy he aisi thi ya abb aa kar hoi ho lolz.

Since you asked ~so~ kindly, yes I’ve been stubborn since bachpan. And I’m glad I haven’t changed.

[Pakistani_Prince]

Re: The west

@IsaidwhatIsaid

Since you asked ~so~ kindly, yes I’ve been stubborn since bachpan. And I’m glad I haven’t changed.

ALLAH tumhen or hum sbb ko hadayat dy.. AMEEN..

[IsaidwhatIsaid]

Re: The west

@Pakistani_Prince

ALLAH tumhen or hum sbb ko hadayat dy.. AMEEN..

I’m good.

[Damras]

Re: The west

@IsaidwhatIsaid

I don’t care what you and your ilk think is “abnormal.” We think cousins fcking is abnormal. That is an opinion. What isn’t an opinion is whether or not it is incest. Cousin fcking is incest since they are your blood relatives. Pakistani culture (and the culture of the ME or wherever) may have normalized it but it doesn’t mean it isn’t incest.

Marrying a cousin is bad but homosexuality and beastiality is fine as both of them were legalised by stupid westerners.

Cousin marriage is incest, actually marriage itself is bad that’s why 50% of the westerners run away from marriage and responsibility of supporting a family. They just buy condoms and sleep around. And if some cheap losers buy cheap condoms, they will impregnate the unlucky girl and will run away when she says she’s expecting her baby. This is the ugly face of your wild and uncivilised west.

[IsaidwhatIsaid]

Re: The west

@Damras

Marrying a cousin is bad but homosexuality and beastiality is fine as both of them were legalised by stupid westerners.

Cousin marriage is incest, actually marriage itself is bad that’s why 50% of the westerners run away from marriage and responsibility of supporting a family. They just buy condoms and sleep around. And if some cheap losers buy cheap condoms, they will impregnate the unlucky girl and will run away when she says she’s expecting her baby. This is the ugly face of your wild and uncivilised west.

More proof you have no argument and don’t know what living in the West is like =)

I do not condone bestiality in any way shape or form so I don’t see why you are bringing it up like I support it or anything (despite whatever the laws say). I know you aren’t intelligent enough to distinguish between two consenting adults loving/being attracted each other to animals being raped by humans, so of course you brought that up again. You being disgusted by homosexuality still doesn’t mean cousin f*cking isn’t incest =).

50% (or whatever the* real percentage of westerners not getting married or having kids because we all know you like to pull stats out of your ass) of Westerners who know they don’t want to bring kids into the world are doing the world a favor if they “run away” from excessive breeding and plopping down into shtty relationships just to check mark “getting married” on a list. Compared to struggling families in the East who have 5 kids and have no way to give them an acceptable quality of life, I think the “wild and uncivilized” West that you made up is doing well.
Oh, and getting married definitely keeps fathers from being deadbeats who don’t support their kids. It’s not like there aren’t any dads around who don’t want to work and hurt/abuse their wives and kids.

[Illuminate]

Re: The west

Given there is so much fitna issues with halal and haram is it really wise to live in the west?
There is fitna and haram in “Muslim” countries as well. It’s a test of faith and the more temptations there are the better the reward.
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Religiously being racist and I think overly patriotic might be haram?correct? But is it really okay to settle in a non muslim country??*
Yes, why would it not be okay? You can practice your religion freely in most “western countries”. Any place that allows you to do that is okay to live in. Also, folks are racist back home too. Just another kind of racist.
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Rally how many people are able to buy a house without being involved in any type of interest and so much wrong is so easily accesible arenot these the reasons why some people even chose to go back.
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In Pakistan, large cities like Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad are getting expensive and things are hard to afford. You can live without being involved in interest here or back home. It all boils down to the choices we make - consciously.
I’ve seen people practice their faith here in the West much more proudly, and with more dedication than some people living in Pakistan. It’s about what you want in life.

[Faris_Udeen]

Re: The west

There is no East or West, both are social constructs. The Planet is round.

The Term Middle East itself dates back to just the 20th Century and largely coined by Archibald Wavell

What actually exists today is a pan global culture, there are still localised cultures but generally the digital revolution is a globaly accepted and adopted reality