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Many are Indians who have sneaked in the country in the name of Islamic education and are causing all the troubles.
Not sure indians or not. but i do know that lots of african students are involved in drug trafficking.
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zaid hamid will be proud of you for this invention
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oh bhai, simple solution to solve 95% of violence= stop supporting america, cut off nato routes, shoot down drones, force them out of pakistan. show them you care and you will have them fight inside afghanistan and not pakistan!
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That is the reason Israel able to exist from last 60 years and the most prosper & technological advance country in the region. They never forgive their enemy. Kill the bytches.
and the fact that big-daddy shows danda to anyone raising an eye-brow against Israel, billions in aids and investment have nothing to do with existence, survival and technology?
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Hanibal. the all points are good. shoot on spot and hang them in public place just adults put the kids and women of zliman in speciall custody for a while and give them normal educations.
ISI should stop to finance and help all kind of jehadies eliments.
send back all JI leadship to India from there they belong and if Immi bhai get sad he also could join them there he also have a lot of fans in india.
try to resolve Kashmir probelm in peacefull manners, i know its hard enough but we need to stay calm till we got back our strong homeland.
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y not just kick out america and its agent pupits?? i bet it will end all these problems
That is ultimate goal
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We shouldn't stoop to their levels, we can kill them but not families, we shouldn't imitate Israel. Rest of suggestions are fine.
Additionally all financial transactions should be monitored.
It has been the practice to kill the mutiny, Mohammad Bin Qasim used the same tactics to press the uprising, the purpose is not to become animal but to teach others who have slightest wish to become part of the TTP...let these potential candidates know that even if they are killed or explod into pieces their families will be there to suffer...
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Shut down borders? Who has the wills & resources to do that?
Talk reality not fantasy.
fantasy???
I guess i have told you to update urself and then talk, but you never listen, here is another advice, donot comment if you are not able to comprehend a message, always ask if you don't understand and then comment
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The way out is to honestly fight and destroy all terrorists, terrorist camps and terrorist links inside the establishment, especially agencies such as ISI. Read the Headly deposition from day before yesterday which names names and phone numbers inside ISI who set him up and the mumbai terrorist attack by kasab and gang
we certainly are not looking for an advice from any Indian for this matter, and i guess i have told you earlier, if we wish to see indian news channels, we can switch it on,we don't need it here....
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I would like to add one more thing....
International students specially in Islamic institutions should be under strickt watch. As not all of them are there to study,some are trojan horses.
Yes you got it right!
The teaching in Madaris is generations old, e.g. some 200 hundred years ago what was taught in the madaris was upto date but now the same thing is some 200 years old, no one have done any research to accomodate new scientific developments nor does there is any intention to do so...they still believe that memorizing Quran and 40 ahadith is all we need to live in this world and pass through to Jannah in other world...
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1 - seal for how long? weeks, months, years?
2 & #3 - yup, need to do that
4 - so you're going tell a cop to just shoot at foreigners without investigating? How will you prevent cops from settling their personal scores under this pretext? They may simply claim 'that guy looked like an Indian, so I shot him'
5 - inhuman to kill their families! what did a kid do if the dad was a nutcase?
6 - US will gladly leave if they are assured that a 9/11 or a OBL/Abbottabad will not occur again. How will you assure them?
If you modify your strategy to address above concerns, it will be a good pragmatic way out indeed
I care not to explain any of this to any Indian...
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oh bhai, simple solution to solve 95% of violence= stop supporting america, cut off nato routes, shoot down drones, force them out of pakistan. show them you care and you will have them fight inside afghanistan and not pakistan!
This was possible prior to 2009, but then Zardari led govt issued some visas and/or allowed US spies to enter Pakistan without any check, further more they were fully supported by Rehman Malik if they were stopped or asked some questions they find difficult to answer...Now it is too late for this strategy, Pakistan's army cheif showed some disagreement over drone attack in April and May turned out to be a nightmare for Pakistan....so we need a parallel approach, where one force should be busy in cleaning business while the top brass let the Americans and all other involved parties know that we mean business
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Send them back and then what?
Why not have these madrassas under strict watch, who comes there, lives there, what they theach there, how they get their fundings and how they are spending it. Who ever is found in any terrorist activities should be hanged. If we can have death panelty for kindnaping. why not for here?
Why not send them back and have madrasa's under strict watch, WHY DO WE NEED THEM IN PAKISTAN ? WHy dont they go to saudi arabi and learn Islam. We have a lot of things to worry about... having less international students in madrasa's will make little easier.
I totally agree with the hanging part.
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1) Scorched Pocket policy: Track down their financial supply lines and financial hubs sponsoring them and destroy them or sandbox them. Without finances, they cannot survive for long.
2) Social boycott/legal action against groups/parties showing sympathy to them and providing financial, moral, political or any sort of support to them.
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It has been the practice to kill the mutiny, Mohammad Bin Qasim used the same tactics to press the uprising, the purpose is not to become animal but to teach others who have slightest wish to become part of the TTP...let these potential candidates know that even if they are killed or explod into pieces their families will be there to suffer...
They why do we cry about civilian casualties when drone attacks kill "innocent, women and children", thats hypocricy IMO.
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We are under attack no doubt about that, we have got Trojan Horses in our country and as long as they exist, killing few foot soldiers or arresting few or operation in certain area is not going to solve the problem, it may help to reduce the frequency but the problem would be there and wold hit Pakistan back with more strength.
I think following is the way out for Pakistan from this mess:
1) Seal all the borders of Pakistan, nothing goes in and out for certain period of time.
2) Impose "No-Show-of Weapons" through out the country, and shoot anyone violating it.
3) The civilian security forces, such as Police should sweep their respective area and kill/arrest all the daciots or anyone carrying weapons. This would certainly secure the common man from being looted, today all it require is a small gun and a motor-bike for street crimes...
4) Put up a cleaning force comprised of shooters, kill any foreigner involved suspicious activities, we do not have time to investigate, Pakistan is not 'MOST-FAVORITE' country to live for Jobs and business.
5) TTP and their families should be killed mercilessly, the same way they kill us...
6) Tell US to go to hell and fight its own way out, they had OBL, the mission they started 10 years ago is over, it is time to clean the country and lets clean it while we can...
Please more suggestions... may be somehow, somebody spread the word and the thick heads sitting high up may take one or two...
( I doubt the current leadership political have any intention to bring peace in the country, i just have a feeling that peace would follow once the budget is approved with heavy and impossible to pay taxes )
i was hoping that you'd include banning of Lashkar e tayba etc.
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The way out is to honestly fight and destroy all terrorists, terrorist camps and terrorist links inside the establishment, especially agencies such as ISI. Read the Headly deposition from day before yesterday which names names and phone numbers inside ISI who set him up and the mumbai terrorist attack by kasab and gang
why don't you worry about the terror the indian nazi army is inflicting on people of kashmir before you lecture pakistan?
or do you enjoy being a hypocrite?
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Hannibal,
Get out of this never ending war. Fight the miscreants who are creating problem in Pakistan by yourself.
Do this by:
First Show Amrika, its military personnel, CIA the damn door and shove their aid in their azzzzes.
Ban all weapons in big cities, from political parties also.
Have a police that is not politically controlled.
BUTTTTT.
None of these things will be implemented. This gov't is not interested in doing anything but trying to save Moonis Elahi, loot any way they can....
i was listening to a talk show. One of the guest, a very well respected person, on that show was saying that their was recently a foreign ambassadors meeting in Pakistan very recently. When he spoke to them afterwards they had come to a conclusion that they have never seen such an incompetent government anywhere in the world.
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They why do we cry about civilian casualties when drone attacks kill "innocent, women and children", thats hypocricy IMO.
Because the people who got killed in the drone attacks are themselves victim of TTP, seldom cases can be seen when the families of TTP are killed in the attack, it is most of the time people like us who have nothing to do with the either party get killed
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i was hoping that you'd include banning of Lashkar e tayba etc.
If you have not noticed,Lashker-e-tayba was banned way back in musharaf era... however i recommend you to not to take indian news channel seriously