The Undefeatable General.

Mashallah. I could not have said it better myself. In fact I have been saying the same things as this writer for a long time now. :slight_smile:

http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/nov-2007/20/columns2.php

The undefeatable general

MASOOD AHMAD

The president of Pakistan, General Pervez Musharraf, has exhibited unparalleled characteristics of success and indefeatibility in all endeavours in his military career as well as in the recent interactions with the civilian society and the civil bureaucracy. His approach has always been unique and ideal in solving difficult problems . The attitude has been forthright and candid with the result that all actions have always met with success. While in the army, in actual field service. He was known to keep his cool in all circumstances as well as being mindful of the long-term effects of the contemplated action. He has carried the same concepts with him when he was forced by the circumstances to take over the reigns of the country in 1999. We have seen that on occasions when most of the other persons would panic and falter in making decisions, he has been making quick and correct decisions in the best interest of the nation.

In Pakistan, during the earlier years, the common man was neglected and downtrodden but during the last 7-8 years the situation has rapidly changed in favour of the common man. Free press and multiple avenues available to give vent to his feelings have led to giving tremendous confidence to the common man in getting his problems addressed in a much more decent and appropriate manner. The open forum, provided by the local government has not only given him a share in governance but has given him easy access to the elected representatives and also the power of accountability over those whom he has chosen to provide better governance .The accessibility of the public representatives in the different form, be it at the Tehsil or District level elected bodies or the Provincial and National Assemblies, has further facilitated the job of the common man who can now easily have a dialogue with his elected representative .

The initial objectives which were set by the president for his government can be enumerated as below and with the help of these we will be able to analyse the achievements better. **The government under the president has successfully accomplished: **Revival of the economy, freedom of expression, improved defence, devolution of power, financial discipline, improved communications, social uplift-better standard of living and increased per-capita income, realistic foreign policy, true public representation and improved law and order situation (even under the extreme constraints prevailing today due to the international and internal situation) it may not have been possible for any other weaker government to address the problem in such a forthright manner.

The conditions that had been prevailing in the country in the early 90’s and immediately after the taking over by the present government, further accentuated the accomplishment of tasks enumerated above in the preceding paragraphs and it can be seen that it is no mean achievement. The factors which have caused all this to come about are: realistic appraisal of the situation prevailing at that time, identification of the drawbacks and difficulties, sound planning to remove the errors and snags, defining a clear and precise course of action, successful execution of these plans and effective feedback mechanism to monitor progress and make corrections where necessary. This was only possible due to a dedicated and committed approach along with continuity in implementation as well as suitability of the implementation mechanism and team.

At this juncture, it is very important that we have faith in our government and support its efforts to consolidate national unity and return to the path of progress and prosperity soonest. What we can do to really benefit the nation is to ‘enable the election commission to hold free and fair elections, as per the original schedule’, and on our own part ‘go to cast our vote plainly and truthfully for those people whom we sincerely think are patriotic and sincere as well as committed to the cause of improving the lot of our common man’. This can be done only if we make a fair comparative assessment of the actual performance of the previous governments and the present governments .If we are impartial and unbiased in our analysis, we will surely want to vote for President Musharraf’s team who has demonstrated their performance in doing a fine job in all spheres of the government. In this manner we will further reconfirm our faith in the president and his future agenda to complete the tasks that he had wisely set for himself in the initial period.

We need to frustrate the designs of these unscrupulous elements and put our future in the hands of those persons whom we have tried and tested by way of their performance and about whom there is no doubt that they are sincere to the national cause and integrity of our beloved country. These eminent persons, with international standing obviously lend stature and credibility to the nation and confidently lead them with dignity and poise in a respectable manner amongst the nations of the world community. Let us give the credit where it is due and let us side with the successful people to achieve success in the future. We must recognise the fact that aligning ourselves with those who are undefeatable makes us also invincible and lets us achieve success in all spheres of life. “So therefore Let us ourselves vote for these persons of proven credentials and let us also convince our friends and companions to also vote for them for this is the call of the time and the only reasonable action expected from the patriotic, peace loving and progressive people of Pakistan to save the country from chaos and confusion.” This attitude will let us retain our credibility in the world as a mature and firm nation that is determined to continue its march forward towards progress and prosperity.

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Splendid article, thanks for sharing Aalsi. :k:

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The undefeatable General

Thats very true. He IS undefeatble. The only people he's been fighting with are the masses of Pakistan.

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I understand the essay and yes the writer has put in things the way they are.

However I shudder with fear when it comes to the topic of this essay. President Musharraf is a mere mortal, and he off course is defeatable. Yes he is surviving so far, but we should always be mindful of and careful about the power of anarchists. And believe you me, the anarchists in Pakistan have a lot of power and they can at any time strike.

In fact both Pakistan and President Musharraf are facing the twin evils of religious-inspired militancy, as well as leftie-run insurgency. And these evil twins are very powerful.

I hope that we as a nation continue fighting and defeating the forces of instability and anarchy. I hope we the people and our government stays stable. Amin!

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If asking for people's right in deciding who rules them is anarchy, then Imam Hussain was biggest anrchist. Long live democracy err anarchy.

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Unfortunately for many, he was.

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Hummm! you had to bring in Islamic reference in here! huh!

The problem with Islamic references is that we can't debate the negative aspects of the roles played by "sahabas" and "taba tabiyeens".

Let's keep the things covered up, because "families" avoid airing their dirty laundry in public.

Remember! our discussion can immediately termed as blasphemous, once we add "Imam" to any person let alone to the name of grandson of our Messenger pbuh.

Please keep the discussion at "terrestrial" level! Will ya!

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Hmm......Now i can see where you come from and how you specialize in garbage talk. Blasphemy is an attitude, learn some manners will ya

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Of course he is undefeatable, anyone who even criticises him is charged with sedition. A typical third rate dictator. He is more important than Pakistan that is why you get charged for sedition if you talk against him. No wonder he is undefeteable.

Secondly he got 95% of votes cast to be elected as president. Of course he is undefeatable, Mubarik and Saddam are the only other two personalities who are as popular as him.

Long live his brutal regime. :jhanda:

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The extreme change in Aalsi's stance towards Musharraf after May 12 is kind of sick. Before that, these guys used to be yacking around how certain provinces dominate the establishment and the whole deal about that. And suddenly they've started dancing around Mushy.

It doesnt take an einstein to put 2 and 2 together.

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Lets not mention Imam Hussain here for two very basic reason

  • He is too good of a person to mention in this fight of corrupt people. Neither Mush is Yazeed nor Ifti is Imam Hussain :naooz:

  • Hazrat Imam Hussain was not fighting for “Democracy”. Islam does not put stress on Democracy anywhere. Eras when Muslims flourished were KHILAFAT/BADSHAHAT eras and not democracy eras.

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For me itsnot about Ifti, BB, NS,Imran or any opposition leader. Its about making the “people” partner in government.

And i am sick of this anarchy drum beating. For God’s sake, processions and rallies are signs of healthy political activity and not anarchy.

Imam Hussain may not be fighting for democracy but he sure was fighting against usurping the rights of people.

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LOL, LOL, LOL
What a great brave general this guy is. When he fought India in 1999 he got beat so bad in Kargil, ever since then he's been fighting, killing, torturing and imprisoning his own defenceless people.
I solute you Oh Great General Musharraf, Thy are so Brave!!!
;)

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Who told you so? As far as my memory go, It was NS who was on knees in White house (or was it TX Ranch?) who order the pull out.

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Look who's turned red all of sudden... aren't you the one who brought up Sulah Hudaibiya and comparing actions of tyrant with Prophet Muhammed PBUH's actions?

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Elected MPAs and MNAs are accessible to who? common man? :hehe: or is he talking about deputy nazims be accessible?

Accountability? What is that? or did he mean questions asked in media? Accountability is something which this government has cut down on.

Voes of common man include no justice at lower levels, no accountability of LEAs/police/para/military excesses at lower levels, dacoities, mobile snatching, load-shedding and the ever so shooting up prices of commodities. Can anyone list what improvements have there been?

Let me list few improvements that I have seen: roads, increased salaries of professionals. May be there are more but which don’t come to mind immediately.

Revival of economy (agree), freedom of expression (disagree, considering later purge of media), devolution of power (Nazim/naib-nazim???, sort of agree), financial discipline (next govts will reveal the excesses, for now okay),… (no comment for lack of info on some issues), improved law and order situation (completely disagree).

If all this had happened under a civilian government it would’ve been long overthrown by a military coup.

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It was started & staged by Mush - we still wonder what was he thinking when he made that strategy. A total disaster & failure.

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As I said Imam Hussain ah's time and situation is too complex to be added in this debate.

If you truly believe in Islamic teachings, then try to understand the arabic khutba recited before every Friday prayer.

One specific line in that Khutba is "Whomever disobeys Sultan (sitting president), disobeys Allah" [trans of : Man Ahanas Sultan, Ahan Allah].

Back to Imam Hussain's example. If you are OK with a frank analysis (and not running to the mods with Blasphemous charge) then here is a summary for you. The idea is to prove that Imam Hussain's role was not even close to bringing any sort of dhoom-cracy in the Arab world. In fact it was petty tribal warfare that is common even now in FATAns and PATAns (just follow news of the recent & ongoing parachinar's tribal clash and the death of 100+ FATAns).

Important Note: While reading the summary below please say "Allayhe Salam" or "razialla unho" with the names of sahaba and Khulafa. Thank you.
Imam Hussain's murder (and resulting shahadat) was the result of the second phase of a long running dispute that started with the murder (and resulting shahadat) of Usman.

Hazrat Usman belonged to Moawia tribe (or triblet). Whereas Imam Hussain belonged to Banu Talib clan.

Usman was murdered because BAnu Talib felt they had the right to run the government by making Ali as Khalifa.

In fact if you read Shibli Nomani's treatise of Khalifa as-hab (Al-Farooq), the tussle among Arabs started right after Messenger pbuh's death.

**First phase of tribal dispute between Moawia clan and Banu Talib clan

** Banu Talib and their supporters wanted Ali to be Khalifa #1

Other Arab tribes wanted Abu Bakar to be Khalifa #1. Omer stepped in, and used his power to install Abu Bakar and he succeeded.

This particular act started the schism in Arab world and translated into Shia (Ali's supporters) and Sunnis (Abu Bakar's supporters) and it survives until today.

After Abu Bakar, Ali's supporters tried again and failed and Omer became Khalifa #2.

After Omer, Banu talib again tried and failed and Usman became Khalifa #3.

**

Second phase of tribal dispute between Moawia clan and Banu Talib clan**

Banu Talib had had it by then, and they (at least according to Hazrat Aysha) conspired and murdered Usman.

Finally Ali was installed as Khalifa #4, but the tribal warfare raged on.

10,000 sahaba got killed in the ensuing battle between Aysha and Ali (Jange-Jamul).

After Ali, Moawia clan struck back and assumed the power. It went on until Yazid (again from Moawia clan) became "Khalifa" (but not a Khalifa Rashid). At this time the same ongoing tribal animosity lead some Arabs to challenge Yazid's rule.

One such Arab group was based in Southern Iraq (Koofa area), and encouraged Imam Hussain to take the lead of Banu Talib clan's tussle against Mowia's clan.

Imam's older brother Imam Hassan didn't want to continue this tribal feud so he stayed on the sidelines.

Thus Yazid and Imam Hussain collided as a result of a long running tribal anarchy and ultimately lead to the sad demise (shahadat) of Imam Hussain.

And as they say, rest is history.

p.s. I hope you understand this as a half page summary of a 100+ years of tribal rivalry. And yes they were all human beings and thus committed a lot of mistakes.

And the only thing we can learn from this tribal feud is "not to be petty tribals in 21st century".

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Read and understand.

Sulah Hudaibya like agreements result in peace and stability.

Anarchists on the other hand bring death and destruction in the society. So it is upto you to chose your sides.

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Read and understand: Don't compare today's shmucks with past greats, simple as that.

PS: Please cleanup/move your "details" of Hazrat Imam Hussein RA to religion forum, there was a point and he made it, if you want to encounter in detail lets do in appropriate forum.