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And they still managed to have three Prime Ministers, out of the last five…very oppressed indeed…
And to say that Musharaf is a Syed is akin to saying that Bal Thackrey is a Syed…Have you notice the resemblence in their wide ugly noses…
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If window dressing can wield that much power, I bet even god would tremble at the feet of the real wielders of power in Pakistan!
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Please stop making personal remarks and stick to the facts. Give reference to any historical event.
Long live Pakistan and Pakistanis.
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Good discussion here?
The fastest way to overcome these problems is to have Democracy. One vote for each adult.
Democracy will ensure that each & every Ethenic region will be canvassed/pampered to get their votes, thus giving them Power to negotiate a better cut in the national pie.
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There is no need for sources. Regional political extremists usually spread this sort of information to fool people for their own benefits. To them:
I am a muhajir (as my family migrated from India) but now I am a Punjabi because I live in Punjab now, and no one has ever harrased me with words or actions.
Similarly Ayub Khan was an ethnic Hindko-speaking Pathan as far as he was living in “Rehana”, but since he and his family moved to Punjab, so he is not a Pathan anymore and he is a Punjabi. It is not very uncommon to find trucks and buses owned by Pathans, still loaded with his pictures.
Niazi, a well-known tribe of pure ethnic Pathans who speak Saraiki have settled down in Mianwali and they are not accepted as Pathans, as well. Some relatives of theirs from NWFP as well as most common people often call them as “Punjabi Pathans”.
The bottom line is:
One point they try to prove is that Punjabis are free to live wherever they want in Pakistan while other ethnic groups are not. This is not reality. There are as much Pathans, Muhajirs, Sindhis and Balochis living in Pujab as there are in NWFP, Sindh, Sarhad and Balochistan and they are never considered strangers here. Punjabis are welcomed every where too with smiles. It is only some ethnical political leaders who are always keen to make ethnic statements to support their kids getting educated in foreign countries and to live a wealthy life and to support their stays aboard to avoid cases and courts.
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I posted the list earlier without a proper reference link..
Jhelum tops human development ranking, Dera Bugti lowest
The News, By Naveed Ahmad
7/7/2003
http://www.jang-group.com/thenews/jul2003-daily/07-07-2003/metro/i2.htm
ISLAMABAD: The first ever ‘National Human Development Report 2003’ finds
Jhelum ranking at the highest Human Development Index (HDI) at 0.703
while the gas-rich Dera Bugti, the lowest at 0.285.
The HDI measures a country’s achievements in three aspects of human
development: longevity, knowledge, and a decent standard of living.
Longevity is measured by life expectancy at birth; knowledge is measured
by a combination of the adult literacy rate and the combined gross
primary, secondary, and tertiary enrolment ratio; and standard of
living, as measured by GDP per capita in dollars.
The United Nations Development Programme has published the report,
covering inter-linkages between poverty, growth and governance, while Dr
Akmal Hussain is its principal author with vital inputs from AR Kemal,
AI Hamid, Imran Ali, Khawar Mumtaz and Ayub Qutub. The data in the study
indicates the large disparities in terms of human development between
the districts of Pakistan.
It is for the first time in Pakistan that human development indices have
been estimated for provinces and districts in the study. The variation
in the HDI between provinces and districts are indicative of regional
disparities in both, the level of economic growth as well as in terms of
health, education and the quality of life.
**The study finds considerable variation across provinces with respect to
literacy rates that vary from 51 per cent in the Sindh to 36 per cent in
the Balochistan. Similarly the primary enrolment rate varies from 75 per
cent in the Punjab, to 64 per cent in Balochistan. As a consequence,
while the HDI for Pakistan, as a whole, is 0.541 the provincial HDI
varies from the highest in the Punjab, at 0.557, to the lowest at 0.499
in Balochistan. Islamabad has a greater weight of affluent citizens in
its population with a far better social infrastructure than in any
province of Pakistan. It is not surprising, therefore, that the human
development index of Islamabad is 0.612, which is higher than any of the
provinces in the country. In terms of HDI ranking the Sindh urban has
the highest rank, with an HDI of 0.659, which is higher than for
Pakistan as a whole (0.541). Punjab urban comes out second in the
ranking with the HDI of 0.657, the NWFP urban third with an HDI of 0.627
and Balochistan urban fourth at 0.591.
It is interesting that in terms of the rural/urban ranking of provinces
while Sindh urban has the highest rank, Sindh rural has the lowest with
an HDI of 0.456. This suggests a larger urban rural disparity in Sindh
compared to any other province. Punjab rural has the highest HDI (0.517)
compared to the rural areas of any other province. **
Among the districts, Jhelum has the highest HDI rank at 0.703 and Dera
Bugti the lowest at 0.285. Data indicates the large disparities in terms
of human development between the districts of Pakistan. The studies also
point out that the financial crisis is a manifestation of the interplay
between the problems of governance, the decay of institutions, and the
adverse structure and slow growth of the GDP. The essential feature of
the problem in the context of economic revival is that the government
has severe fiscal constraints to undertaking major initiatives for
stimulating the economy or directly attacking poverty. The research
finds that debt-servicing burden of total public debt as a percentage of
government revenue increased from 19.6 per cent in 1980 to 60.3 per cent
in 200 while overtime the tax burden on the poor has increased and on
the rich has declined.
“The pattern of growth in the crop sector during the 1990s is
characterised by a slow down in the annual growth rate of major crops, a
declining growth rate of factor productivity and an increased
instability of output growth,” says the NHDR.
While the availability of the irrigation water has been reduced, the
requirement of water at the farm level has increased due to increased
deposits of salts on the topsoil and the consequent need for leaching,
Dr Akmal observes.
“High dropout rates occur often because the household is facing
adversity and gets pushed into such acute poverty that it is forced to
send the children to work for a pittance rather than continue with
education. There is a serious problem with the quality of education
imparted to students not only with respect to the curricula but also the
quality of instruction,” mentions the report.
The UNDP-funded study says the adverse health and socio-economic status
of poor women is accentuated as marginal households with given incomes
bear the burden of a large number of children.
In Pakistan high fertility rates, high population growth rates, ill
health and poverty are linked in a vicious cycle. The GDP Growth has
declined during the 1990s. There has also been a decline in employment
elasticities, labour productivity and real wages in both agriculture and
industry.
The report says that the poor are not isolated heads to be merely
counted. The poor exist as living communists who are looked into a
structure of power, which keeps them dependant on the landlord, the
moneylender and the local state officials.
On the gender inequality, the study finds, “Women from poor household
today are subject to not only the stress from economic deprivation but
also: ‘loneliness …, violence and fear of violence, depression and
resignation …’”
The report refers to the 1960s when the process of rapid economic growth
was high and “while an exclusive and highly monopolistic class was
amassing wealth, the majority of Pakistan’s population was suffering an
absolute decline in its living standards.” It also points to the fact
that while the landlord’s incomes increased, those of the poor peasantry
declined relatively, as they faced a reduction in their operated farm
area and in many cases growing landlessness.
Apart from the increased expenditures on defence and administration, the
budget was additionally burdened by the losses of the public sector
industries, he noted. On the subject of poverty and modes of financing
consumption, the report points out that the basic difference between the
extremely poor and the poor categories is that in the former, the total
annual household income (Rs 15,350) is substantially less than the food
consumption requirement (Rs 18,497), while in the latter the annual
total household income (Rs 40,566) is sufficient to fulfil the food
consumption requirement, although not enough to fulfil the total
consumption requirements (excluding durables) (Rs 41,092).
"Therefore the distinguishing feature between these two classes of the
poor is that the extremely poor are obliged to use loans for food
consumption requirements, while those in the poor category do not have
to do so.
Similarly, in the extremely poor category the total consumption
requirements (Rs 23,722) are greater than the annual total household
receipts, including transfers and remittances received. In the poor
category, by contrast, the total receipts (Rs 45,818) are greater than
the total consumption requirements. In the non-poor category, annual
total household income is not only enough to fulfil food consumption,
but also more than enough to finance total consumption (excluding
durables).
The report said the extremely poor, whose incomes and receipts fall
below the poverty line, tend to use loans and sale of assets to increase
their consumption level. Since availability of loans to the extremely
poor is constrained and they often do not have substantial assets, they
suffer from extreme nutritional deficiencies. Total available resources
of the extremely poor are 84.0 per cent of the poverty line. In urban
areas, the total household incomes of the extremely poor and the poor of
Rs 30,266 and Rs 53,830, were only 39.5 and 70.9 per cent of the poverty
line, respectively. In the rural areas, household income levels of the
extremely poor and the poor are 21.6 and 61.9 per cent of the poverty
line, respectively. Transfers, especially the remittances, supplement
considerably the total income of both the extremely poor and the poor
categories. For the extremely poor, remittances account for 16 per cent
and total transfers 20.9 per cent, and for the poor, remittances account
for 4.2 per cent and total transfers 5.3 per cent of the total receipts.
Despite the large transfers the current receipts of the extremely poor
fall short of their consumption levels by 35 per cent and they have to
resort to credit and sale of assets to finance their meagre consumption
levels. As much as 17 per cent of total consumption of the poor is
financed through credit and 5 per cent through the sale of land. Even
though the poor on an average spend less than the total receipts, yet a
large number of households amongst them do use credit and proceeds from
the sale of assets to finance their consumption; 10 per cent of the
consumption of the poor is financed through net credit and 2 per cent
through the sale of assets. The deficit between food consumption
requirements and total household receipts of the extremely poor is much
higher in the rural areas than in urban areas.
The report has little mention of the land reforms, minority groups as
well as the exact percentage of the extremely poor segment of the
population.
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Blaming the underdevelopment of Baluchistan, Sindh, and Pashtunkhwa only on the people of these provinces is just a deceptive excuse and an attempt at concealing the imperialist structure of the state. Today, even a blind person can see that Baluchistan has not only not gained materially but has also lost in terms of culture and sovereignty. If this state couldn't change the social conditions of an important component of its populace despite 58 years of its being, what is its utility to them?
Making appeals to patriotic feelings of people without bringing any tangible change in their lives is an emotional non-sense that can not w...ork for longer.
Nevetheless, it must be said that the fuedal and tribal structures in smaller provinces are very much useful to the neo-colonialist structures of the state. Just imagine, with a handful of feudals/tribal chiefs from Sindh, for example, you can control its resources, territory, and population. It is better to control peripheries through local cronies than rule them directly. Buy a few influentials rather than risk the illusion of autonomy to the subjects. This is how imperialism works!
As for civic conditions in NWFP and FATA for investment/development, I will draw your attention towards a recent news. A local newspaper of Peshawar published the news that:
"The FATA Secratariate of Governer NWFP issued a warning to FATA senators that their participation in political activities is against law and subject to state-action because political parties act is not in-force in FATA."
Political activities is a basic human right that is being denied to tribals. Without participation into politics, many rights cannot be obtained. Tribal people are demanding political, administrative, legal, constitutional, and economic reforms in FATA for a long time for their greviences to be addresses, but those at the helm of the affair are showing intransigence. There is a powerful status-quo, comprising federal officials, governer and chief sectratries NWFP, political agents, and tribal maliks very hostile to any kind of reform in tribal areas because tribal area is a grazing ground for them.
This status-quo has exaggerated the myth of the autonomy of tribal people to perpetuate their exploitative politics with regard to tribals.
But these are not just the interests of the forces of the status-quo directly involved in tribal affairs. Involved also are the imperial interests of the elite** of Pakistan **who can rule only as long as people are immersed in a stagnant tribal/rural life-style. A population with a higher civic-sense and political consciousness may strengthen their co-ethnists politically and demographically to engender group-aspirations in them and so pose a threat to the divisive and imperialist ruling-style of the core's elite.
This is the same situation NWFP faced 100 years back when the British colonialists was not willing to extend political party act to NWFP because it wanted to keep NWFP a wild frontier and a war-front for the stratetigis plans of their Empire in the north-west vis-a'-vis other empires to be realized.
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Someone opined here that the dominance of some areas in Pakistan is because of their population sizes. This is misleading. The root of the problem lays is in the colonial structures we inherited from British. These structures were dominated by specific classes and regions and later weren't reformed in order to be more representative. These structures grabbed power by destroying democracy.
If population size was any explanation, why then Bangalis were deprived?
The fact is the region that had the miltary-bureaucratic power dominated. So the share in power was not on the basis of population size but on the extent of representation in establishment.
As for the figures in Pakistani newspapers or compiled from Pakistani sources, never believe in them. By projecting Pashtuns to be junior partners, they are trying to conceal their total control and domination of the things.
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Yeah…they all have to assimilate and become punjabis, otherwise, they won’t be accepted…You can be anybody and maintain your identity in the rest of Pakistan…and thats due to tolerance…but Punjab there is none…
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This whole thread is stupid and pointless..
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I agree... Bye Bye thread
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I never knew that. Thanks.
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Yes, now I have found about some military operations in the provinces. Let us start from East Pakistan. In the first decade after partition i.e. 1950s, there were three operations carried out in East Pakistan.
The first was Operation Jute in 1952-53. Probably, it was when elections in East Pakistan were held in which Awami League emerged victorious.
The second was Operation Service-First in 1956 after One Unit was imposed.
The third was Operation Close-Door in 1957. The reasons for this operation were not clear.
The fourth and last was Operation Bay of Bangal (?) in 1971. The reasons for this operation are known.
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Very nice,
My cousin lost his rolex in East Pakistan, any news on that?