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I came across this video and I really really would like to know what these numbers stands for or what is Saturn or the Spirit of Saturn Zazl (Jinn)?
Your any information provided on these will be appreciated. ![]()
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I came across this video and I really really would like to know what these numbers stands for or what is Saturn or the Spirit of Saturn Zazl (Jinn)?
Your any information provided on these will be appreciated. ![]()
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:help: http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/doc/religion/occult/qabalah/misc/gematria
What this below numbers stand for :konfused:
4-9-2
3-5-7
8-1-6
(Amulet aka Taweez) in Judaism they are known as Kamea or Kameot. They are mentioned numerous times in the Gemara(Talmud). Most especially in Shabbat 61 where a case is made for even wearing them on Shabbat. Typically a prohibited act (outside of an **Eiruv=**an urban area enclosed by a wire boundary which symbolically extends the private domain of Jewish households into public areas, permitting activities within it that are normally forbidden in public on the Sabbath) on account of the prohibition against carrying. Apparently if the amulet is written by an expert writer of amulets(he needs to have a proven track record of success) then they can be worn.
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I guess in an amulet, numbers are written in sequence as shown in below image either in english, arabic or any other languages.
Starting with first corresponding number and continuing through each in order, to draw out sigil.
What sigil stand for ![]()
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Disclaimer: Any video posted earlier or later is just for information purpose. To show what exactly written/printed on the paper which kept in any amulet/taweez. One who wish to contact the person in video may do so. GS hold No responsibility nor promote this video.
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Oky. So far what I’m able to understand that the ‘Taweez/Amulet writers’, writes numbers i.e., 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 & 9 in a diagram which knows as ‘kamea’ and/or ‘magic square’ etc. (shown on post # 3). The vertical and horizontal lines of any diagram, drawn simply or by using name of Almighty Allah and Prophet Muhammad :saw2: in cross of each others, so that the ‘writers’ get nine (09) boxes and in each of it, the write can write 1-9 numbers.
Then some ‘writes’ draw a sigil which represents some cosmic or to cosmos like representing one’s star/plant, or the so and so supernatural(s) will help, bless, protect one who wear/use Taweez/Amulet. I found it not difference from any soothsayers who also predict or forecast of a person’s future by knowing or including person’s birth or by the positions of stars/planets . Example: Horoscope.
I might be wrong but my research is still going on.
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Some Question pop-up in my mind ![]()
1- What is the canonic position of ‘Taweez/Amulet’ is In Islam?
2- The one who make/prepare/design a ‘Taweez/Amulet’ is the only one who has committed ‘Shirk’ or the one who had used it?
3- What if a person doesn’t aware of what ‘Taweez/Amulet’ is meant for?
4- What if a person really benefited from a ‘Taweez/Amulet’? means he/she recovered his/her health, got what he/she wants etc., after wearing/using ‘Taweez/Amulet’? Still the person committed shirk or ese?
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I actually have no knowledge on this matter but I was under the impression that the numbers stand for some words from the qur’an…
it doesnt make sense that someone would make a taweez representing planets and then someone would actually be willing to wear it…what would that accomplish?
… i dont think ill ever understand the concept of taweez
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llxxll, those (soothsayers, a’amil, baba G, peer etc) who are indulge in this business (making/distributing of taweez, amulet) actually indulge into shirk either knowingly or unknowingly.
The concept of numbers stand for some words from the Qur’an, I guess it is to hide truth or present it such way i.e., specific number represent a word from the verse or entire Surah, or any name of Almighty Allah or the name of Prophet PBUH, so that the others may not suspect them.
For example: a number “786” is replaced with “Bismillah”
Many writes/use “786” as “Bismillah” but in Islamic cononic, there is no value/prove of it. This is a misconception spread by the very same soothsayers, a’amil, baba G, peer etc., b’coz it is easy for them to convince others that the numbers used in any taweez/amulet actually represent some special words from Qur’an, which in fact is not and it is an open lie.
Stay tuned for more information will sooner or later, I’ll share here, in shape of text, photos and videos made by me ![]()
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Aha so these numbers don't at all represent anything in the Qur'an... I knew it! I've never seen any reference in religious text to numbers representing words or phrases from the Qur'an
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JazakAllah. Looking forward to see more info. I have zero knowledge about this.
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In last 48 hours, I met with many different Pakistani peoples and asked them their opinions about taweez/amulet etc.
Some said it is totally shirk and forbidden and some others says that if in any taweez/amulet, holy names and/or verses is written then it is oky to use.
However, they had no answer (they don’t know at all) when I asked them how those names and/or verses is written, I means in what design or shape is it written. All replied me in “they have no idea or we don’t know”.
**إِنَّا لِلّهِ وَإِنَّـا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعونَ **Those who already indulged is this sick business, use any possible means so they earn money from the innocent peoples by making them fool. Moreover these sick peoples fabricated some hadiths and present it as authentic in public so their business keep going on and no one question them or get in doubt.
See below video with english subtitle:
Will post more information soon ![]()
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See these below images 1 & 2:
It is used nowadays very commonly in various books, magazines, newspaper etc., and many of us have seen it. See image 1
IMAGE-1
Interestingly, if you see any taweez/amulet given to you by any pious man, it is look like same as I draw in image-2. However, they’ll write some holy words taken from Qur’an or verses on numbers stating these numbers represent specific Surah or verses etc.,
The simple question which bothered me a lot from where these concepts (as seen in below image) came from? Definitely not from Prophet
nor from His PBUH Companions
and Companions followers ![]()
If we read detail (tafsir) of Chapter 2 verse 102 then we’ll came to know that the Shiatin (devils) taught Jews how to do magic and it was practiced widely in the era of Prophet Sulaiman :as: so basically such concept/method is came from them and emerged in peoples living in different part of the world and still existed/practiced.
**IMAGE-2 **
Note: Whether its a black magic or white magic (rohani illaag), it won’t become until one enter into the circle of the shirk and those who believe either black or white magic in fact disbelieved what Almighty Allah sent down to our Prophet Muhammad ![]()
More info will share soon ![]()
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People have yet to learn a lot before they can find some solid foundation to rest their minds upon or to anchor their mentality.
It all starts with knowing the difference between evident realities and their best explanation.
All this requires self awareness and awareness of universal realities and ultimately awareness of message of the creator and sustainer and its proper understanding.
Till people take things in that manner and to that level, they will always remain confused because ignorance makes everything a mystery and knowledge makes everything clear.
The truth is people want to know everything but thye want someone to make the effort so that they could have something for nothing. Allah on the other hand gave people brains and bodies so that they make efforts for themselves and then exchange things with each other to get the full picture.
So long as some people act lazy and others act crazy things will remain the way we see them because to make world a better place all people need to cooperate and coordinate their efforts in order to complement each other's efforts and hard works for better end results.
Coming to letters and numbers, letter shapes were invented before number shapes and the while there was no way found yet to write numbers people used to write words for numbers ie instead of 1 they used to write one. After that they assigned numerical values to letters eg ALIF=ONE.
As for taweez etc. these are simply put mind manipulating tricks which if one looks at works of psychologists they are explained. Ignorant people were always manipulated by clever people to benefit from their ignorance. So it continues even today because the world is full of ignorant and foolish people who do not bother to educate themselves to think things through. All magic tricks work on weak minds because they are locked in room by themselves and cannot find any way out of it because they have not learned what they were supposed to become aware of.
Look at the world how people try to keep each other ignorant through copyright laws for intellectual property or inventions. The brotherhood spirit of man is dead or rather killed deliberately so man is preying on man anyway one can.
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Coming to letters and numbers, letter shapes were invented before number shapes and the while there was no way found yet to write numbers people used to write words for numbers ie instead of 1 they used to write one. After that they assigned numerical values to letters eg ALIF=ONE.
As for taweez etc. these are simply put mind manipulating tricks which if one looks at works of psychologists they are explained. Ignorant people were always manipulated by clever people to benefit from their ignorance. So it continues even today because the world is full of ignorant and foolish people who do not bother to educate themselves to think things through. All magic tricks work on weak minds because they are locked in room by themselves and cannot find any way out of it because they have not learned what they were supposed to become aware of.
But still many peoples believe in it.
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I found this video interesting. This man, as he said, is from Pindi - Islamabad. Those who lives there maybe know him.
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I was just looking through some old threads and found this. If I'm not supposed to bump this, then my apologies. Please let me know.
Now onto the topic, my belief about taweezs is that they can be worn as long as they don't contain any shirk in them, and by that I mean words of shirk and not that simply wearing them is in and of itself shirk (which some people believe). Now what this video points out is that many taweezs do contain shirk, and that's the problem. The problem isn't that they're taweezs. I also follow what a particular raaqi says about this--taweezs could be permissible, but practically a large portion of them contain words of shirk in them.
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Peace bro Captain Obvious,
Scholars have different opinions about wearing or not wearing a ‘taweez (amulet)’, either it contains/doesn’t contains ‘shirk’. But Al Masu’d narrated in a hadith that our Prophet Muhammad
disliked ten things, among them is to wearing 'taweez (amulet), regardless to what it contains inside.
Choice is yours ![]()
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According to the scholars I trust, they say that it is permissible as long as they are free of shirk, so this is the view that I hold. I’ve also read hadith that show that it was used and not objected to.
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Would u like to discuss this topic further? If yes then plz that hadith, if possible. ![]()
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Here's the hadith:
"Amr ibn Shu'aib (may Allah be pleased with him) said that 'Rasulu'llah(may Allah bless him and grant him peace) taught my father and grandfather a du'a which we would read before going to sleep, to protect us from fear and anguish.We told our elder children to recite this du'a before going to sleep as well.But for those children who were not yet literate, we would write it and then put it around their necks"
[Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal vol.2; Abu Dawud, in 'Chapter of Medicine'; Tafsir Ibn Kathir, under Sura al-Mu'minun, verse 97; and Qadi Shawkani, Fath al-Qadir, under the same verse]
Now some people argue that it's only for the kids who couldn't read it yet. If it were invariably shirk, then their ability to read it or not should be irrelevant.