the so called terrorism acts commited by our muslim brothers and sisters all over the world have been a really big issue for the past couple of years.
i wanted to know, if doing this is allowed in islam, i mean actually defending your land, your well-being, your heriatge against zionists and imperialists etc.
please provide quranic proof so i can answer people with correct referneces when asked this question and please keep the answer to a minimum length don’t drag the article on.
peace.
Dear Friend, Pay attn what you write!
So-called terrorism…all dirty terrorism is just a So-called terrorism for you. I have no idea what Islam says about a So-called terrorism.
The other way you have already qualified terrorism in disguise.
Quran urges to die in a just war………..Quran does not say kill yourself in a just war.
If you understand this difference, you will get the answer.
Rgds
**In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful
002.190: Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.
002.216 : Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.
002.217 : They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say: "Fighting therein is a grave (offence); but graver is it in the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members." Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you Turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein
004.075 : And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!"
004.076 : Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan. **
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004.075 : And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help
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Jazakallah Different..
in light of the verse above I think it's time we liberated the people of Saudi Arabia from the ill-treatment of their oppressive rulers..
PA, in the first verse, Allah swt said to not transgress limits. What limits?
I have objection to his wordings…he says that his Muslim brothers and sisters engaged in an act of violence against so and so…. that he names a So-called terrorism.
Last year some Chechen Militants highjacked a theater Musical Hall Nord-Ost at Moscow.
Appr 700 civilians, including children and ladies were at the mercy of these Militants for three days, were not allowed food, water etc (or a little water only.)
During these three days these Militants were given some chance to get exposure to TV cameras and in their appearance they were frequently repeating….”Allah o Akabar”.
Was it an act of ‘Terrorism’ or a ‘So-called Terrorism.’ Let us find out!
Fantoosh
The difference between terrorism and 'so called' terrorism depends on which side of the fence your'e sitting on.
Terror tactics have been utilised by man from the very offset. A little bit of research into history should work wonders.
What you may call a terrorist act may not be agreed on by me and vice versa.
For instance, do you agree with me that America operates a terrorist regime when it finds it appropriate and also funds terrorists.
It will always be a matter of opinion.
Author of this thread is confused of Terrorism as per Quran...
Chechen Militants terrorized 700 civilians(including children and women) for three days, kept them under threat of death, did not allow them food and water....
How the most Holy and Nobel Quran consider such type of an act...
Its very simple, when innocent people are targetted (oh and btw even in war if the rules of war are not followed) that is contrary to what islam teaches. No sane muslim will consider holding the innocents hostage as correct.
have the russkies kicked chechens around for a long time, sure..should hechens be allowed selfrule, sure..but is using innocent civilians as pawns right..no.
2 wrongs do not make a right.
Originally posted by Different:
002.217 : They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say: "Fighting therein is a grave (offence);
** but graver is it in the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque **, and drive out its members."
Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you Turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein. *
I pray that Al Quaeda ask's themselves what is quoted? They preach against the west, yet I don't believe they have ever considered that preventing acess to the Sacred Mosque by others might be discouraging the spread of Islam rather than encouraging?
And by those actions perhaps spreading oppression of people of the book, rather than reversing?
Might OBL be reversing the cause of Allah, rather than spreading belief?
IMOH I believe that OBL and followers wrongly blame westerners for their problems rather than finding a solution themselfs. It's so much easier to blame others.
this point is interesting, israel put a penalty on ppl over 40 yrs or under it going to masjid al-aqsa to pray namaaz.
and 2condly, i called it so called terrorism because my muslim bros and even sis now in chechniya ( may allah bless them) they all feel opressed thats why they do what they feel is right and that’s what i call freedom fighting but the west calls it terrorism.
if its terrorism america wants to wipe out then it should wipe its self out because its the root of terrorism, america gives training to governments, militants and teaches governments of different countries top do all unlawful acts and yet its name isn’t ridiculed, why!!!
Name is not ridiculed because Americans are with you.
make sense plzzzzzz
Why are you so brainwashed that you can't separate right from wrong? Freaks.
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hm sign of an extremely mature, respectful discussion.
I agree. It is indeed very mature to discuss if flying planes into buildings full of innocent people is terrorism or not. :k:
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wrongly blame westerners for their problems rather than finding a solution themselfs. It's so much easier to blame others.
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You're correct is is very easy to blame others.
But you know what? Muslims have quite a valid point to partially blame America for her actions..and obviously their own governments..if America stop interfering into the Muslim world..and if our governments stopped supporting America..then there would be no problem with people hating the American government.
Often you hear on TV 'Ah these people envy the freedoms we have'-no they dont, they hate the crimes your government has perpetrated.
Things you dont hear on CNN, Foxnews-e.g. the Afghan Massacre, where a recent video has come out, detailing the horrific war crimes, what about the countless number of colateral damage in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Americans will stop interfering in muslim lands, when muslims will stop killing or threating to kill americans.
I meant Namaaz.
Perhaps I misunderstood the meaning.
Intention was to let you know that Americans are also praying for peace and an end to violence.
IMOH Violence is an ugly result of anger.
Perhaps a way to stop violence is to talk about the anger.
YELLING is preferable IMOH.
Perhaps its time to be uncivilized and just yell at each other!
Islam is against terrorism. Muslims adopting terror activities for the sake of Islam, in fact, insult Islam.
Am I wrong?
A Muslim insulting Islam is directly provoking Law of Blasphemy.
What a tragedy that after any terror acts most Muslims gets busy in finding excuses! (It is an indirect support to terrorism.)