The sermon of Hz Ali(a.s) about 1st 3 caliphs

this is related with answer of theall questions and also with the thread of the name of Hz Umer.here im posting the sermon of Hz Ali(a.s)about his and the first 3 caliphs,s rule,and his opponents.

Sermon 3:

Beware! By Allah the son of Abu Quhafah (Abu Bakr)dressed himself with it (the caliphate) and he certainly knew that my position in relation to it was the same as the position of the axis in relation to the hand-mill. The flood water flows down from me and the bird cannot fly upto me. I put a curtain against the caliphate and kept myself detached from it.

Then I began to think whether I should assault or endure calmly the blinding darkness of tribulations wherein the grown up are made feeble and the young grow old and the true believer acts under strain till he meets Allah (on his death). I found that endurance thereon was wiser. So I adopted patience although there was pricking in the eye and suffocation (of mortification) in the throat. I watched the plundering of my inheritance till the first one went his way but handed over the Caliphate to Ibn al-Khattab after himself.

(Then he quoted al-A`sha’s verse). *My days are now passed on the camel’s back *(in difficulty) *while there were days *(of ease) *when I enjoyed the company of Jabir’s brother Hayyan. * It is strange that during his lifetime he wished to be released from the caliphate but he confirmed it for the other one after his death. No doubt these two shared its udders strictly among themselves. This one put the Caliphate in a tough enclosure where the utterance was haughty and the touch was rough. Mistakes were in plenty and so also the excuses therefore. One in contact with it was like the rider of an unruly camel. If he pulled up its rein the very nostril would be slit, but if he let it loose he would be thrown. Consequently, by Allah people got involved in recklessness, wickedness, unsteadiness and deviation.

Nevertheless, I remained patient despite length of period and stiffness of trial, till when he went his way (of death) he put the matter (of Caliphate) in a groupand regarded me to be one of them. But good Heavens! what had I to do with this “consultation”? Where was any doubt about me with regard to the first of them that I was now considered akin to these ones? But I remained low when they were low and flew high when they flew high.

One of them turned against me because of his hatred and the other got inclined the other way due to his in-law relationship and this thing and that thing, till the third man of these people stood up with heaving breasts between his dung and fodder. With him his children of his grand-father, (Umayyah) also stood up swallowing up Allah’s wealth like a camel devouring the foliage of spring, till his rope broke down, his actions finished him and his gluttony brought him down prostrate.

At that moment, nothing took me by surprise, but the crowd of people rushing to me. It advanced towards me from every side like the mane of the hyena so much so that Hasan and Husayn were getting crushed and both the ends of my shoulder garment were torn. They collected around me like the herd of sheep and goats. When I took up the reins of government one party broke away and another turned disobedient while the rest began acting wrongfully as if they had not heard the word of Allah saying: *That abode in the hereafter, We assign it for those who intend not to exult themselves in the earth, nor *(to make) mischief (therein); *and the end is *(best) *for the pious ones. *(Qur’an, 28:83) Yes, by Allah, they had heard it and understood it but the world appeared glittering in their eyes and its embellishments seduced them. Behold, by Him who split the grain (to grow) and created living beings, if people had not come to me and supporters had not exhausted the argument and if there had been no pledge of Allah with the learned to the effect that they should not acquiesce in the gluttony of the oppressor and the hunger of the oppressed I would have cast the rope of Caliphate on its own shoulders, and would have given the last one the same treatment as to the first one. Then you would have seen that in my view this world of yours is no better than the sneezing of a goat.

(It is said that when Amir al-mu’minin reached here in his sermon a man of Iraq stood up and handed him over a writing. Amir al-mu’minin began looking at it, when Ibn Abbas said, "O' Amir al-mu'minin, I wish you resumed your Sermon from where you broke it." Thereupon he replied, "O' Ibn Abbas it was like the foam of a Camel which gushed out but subsided." Ibn `Abbas says that he never grieved over any utterance as he did over this one because Amir al-mu’minin could not finish it as he wished to.)

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salaams
thanks for posting sis
where did u get this from? i.e. the source

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i got it from Hz Ali(a.s) most famouse book Nahajol Balagha.the sermon no is 3 and calls ASH-SHAQSHAQIYYA:)

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ok

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so wasnt hadrat ali RA ok with the shura electing the khalifah?

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According to the sermon Imam Ali (A.S) was not happy as to when both Hz Abu Baker and Hz Umer and Hz Uthman became muslims way after and as to Imam Ali (A.S) who was born a muslim (in the KABA it's self)

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Thank you for posting this Dua Zahra.

The above sermon in fact goes against the Shia belief of **DIVINE APPOINTMENT **of IMAM.

**Note that He (Hz. Ali (ra)) never used the incident of Khum Ghadeer to lay his claim to **DIVINE APPOINTMENT to Khilaafat/Imamate, which Shias never tire of quoting for his DIVINE right TO kHILAAFAT.

In the above sermon Hz. Ali (ra) is shown to emphasize that he was the most deserving to be the immediate successor to the Prophet (saw), nothing more nothing less.

As I don’t have much time I will quote verbatim article by very good Iranian friend of mine [known as Student on the Net] who is very well versed in Shia/Sunni dialogue having been a Shia once. [He said ‘good bye’ to Shiaism about 7 years ago after having done intensive research into the whole dispute].

"Shi’a Imamiah believe that no one but Allah (swt) has the right to appoint the Khalifah. The people have no right in choosing the Khalifah. and that Allah (swt) has appointed Ali and his children as the Imams.

None of the Sahabah (raa) has said or claimed that there is a text in Quran or Hadith which appoints any one as a Khalifah. In the discussions which took place between the Sahabah in the courtyard of Banu Sa’idah or the discussion between Ali and Abu Bakr or the consultation to choose Uthman, in all of these discussions none of the Sahabah mentioned any text which gives the Khilafah to Abu Bakr or Ali.

Neither Abu Bakr (ra) nor Ali (ra) has claimed that. If the Sahabah (raa) did not know of such a text then who heard it from the Prophet (saw). If the Sahabah did not say that Quran gives the Khilafah to one specific person then who can understand the Quran better than them.

  1. While this idea (appointing the Khalifah by divine text) does not have much weight in most of the Islamic schools of thoughts, the Shi’a Imamiah consider it as part of their creed.

For this reason I will cite some of what Ali (ra) said in the book of Nahju Al-Balagha which** proves he did not believe he had a divine right in the Khilafah**. .*

The following excerpts show three things: Firstly, Ali (ra) did not think he had a divine right in the Khilafah though he thought he is the best qualified for it. Secondly, Ali was a good adviser and counsellor to the three Imams (Khalifs) before him. Thirdly, Ali got the bay’ah by shura.

  1. “… And one of them said: ‘O son of Abi Talib! You are zealous for leadership.’ I [ALi] replied, ’ I swear by Allah that it is you who is zealous for leadership and far away from it! And I am closer to it and, what is more, I deserve it more than anyone else!” Sharif Rida vol1, p116.

  2. Ali said:“We deserve to lead in this matter because we have a noble heritage and genealogy and are closer to the Prophet.” Sharif Rida vol 3, p 63.

These two evidences -from Shi’a sources- prove that Ali (ra) considered himself as deserving leadership, because he was best qualified for the task and his blood relationship to the Prophet pbuh), and not because the Prophet (pbuh) had chosen him as successor. Otherwise Ali would have mentioned so, in other words, he would have said it was his right bestowed upon him by the Prophet.

  1. “When Umar consulted him [Ali] if he should go to the war against the Romans, Imam Ali (AS) told him: 'If you go there, the Muslims will have no one to turn to in your absence, and should anything happen to you there it may have an effect here. So stay and protect your people instead of going.” Sharif Rida, vol 3,p 28.

  2. Writing to Muawiah “.. . Those who gave bay’ah to Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman are the same people who are giving the bay’ah now. Thus the witness has nothing to decide and the absent nothing to reject. The Shura (consultation) is for the Muhajireen (migrants) and Ansar (helpers), if they choose someone and name him Imam, then Allah is pleased by it.” Sharif Rida, vol 3, p 7.

  3. Writing to Talha and Zubayr “… **I did not want this job (leader), but the people wanted me to have it; **and I did not want to accept bay’ah, but they, including you two, obliged me to accept it. Furthermore, prior to this I was
    not a king or wealthy man.” Sharif Rida, vol 3, p 111.

All these quotes from Ali prove that he was a good adviser and consultee to the three Imams before him. Furthermore, that Ali took the bay’ah through offer and acceptance and by shura; the shura being with Ansar and Muhajireen. Some Shi’a say the Ali said these things because he was scared and to use Tuqiah (to say what you do not believe in) or because he did not want trouble for the Muslims. But would some one like Ali lie or disobey Allah by accepting to give bay’ah to the other Khalifs while he knows he was chosen by the divine text. This would discredit Ali not only the other Sahabah.

Moreover, even when Ali (ra) became Khalifah and had the power in his hand he never mentioned that the Khilafah was taken from him or that he was chosen to take this leadership by Allah.

  1. And on the death of Uthman (raa) when the Muslims asked him to accept the bay’ah, he [Ali] said: “Leave me and choose someone else, because we are going to confront this leadership with its many faces and colours. It is better for you to have me as a minister than an Amir.” Sharif Rida, vol 1, p 48.

  2. Imam Ali said:“I swear by Allah, I never had any strong desire for Khilafah no in Wilayat, but you invited me to it and carried me on to of it.” Sharif Rida, vol 2, p 184.

  3. When Imam Ali was dying in bed, people asked him"… Are you not going to choose your successor? He said: Why should I? The Prophet (pbuh) did not choose one, all he said was If Allah wants the good for them He will bring them someone who is best after the Prophet’." Sharif Rida, vol 2, p 372."

Note: - You reserve the full right to deny all the above references are not correct and then I will ask my ‘very good friend’ and he will furnish you all the scanned copies and much more. [He has a huge collection of all the books].

Now that you have quoted sermon 3 from Nahjul Balagha, let’s turn our attention to sermon 91 of the same very book. *

**SERMON 91 **

Find it here: http://www.irib.ir/worldservice/imamali/nahje/index.htm

When people decided to Swear allegiance(1) at Amir al-mu’minin’s hand after the murder of `Uthman, he said:

Leave me and seek some one else. We are facing a matter which has (several) faces and colours, which neither hearts can stand nor intelligence can accept. Clouds are hovering over the sky, and faces are not discernible. You should know that if I respond to you I would lead you as I know and would not care about whatever one may say or abuse. If you leave me then I am the same as you are. It is possible I would listen to and obey whomever you make in charge of your affairs. I am better for you as a counselor than as chief.

If Hz. Ali (ra) was DIVINELY APPOINTED for the Imamate, shouldn’t he have said to the effect; “Alhamdulilah! Allah by His Grace has restored the Khilaafat/Imamate to it’s rightful owner.”

But here we have him saying “Leave me and seek some one else” & “I am better for you as a counselor than as chief”

Now tell me what right has he to deny the “DIVINE KHILAAFAT” bestowed on him by Allah (swt).

It’s just as if Prophet Muhammad (saw) saying to the people; “Leave me and seek some one else” & “I am better for you as a counselor than as a Prophet”**

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So don't you think Imam Ali (a.s) was more suited than Hz Abu Baker where as he was the one who was closest to the Prophet P.B.U.H in the first place. Another thing. How doe's it feel to you when the ppl go running to appoint a caliph and don't even care if the Prophet p.b.u.h is still on his death bed. After all if Hz Abu Baker was the chosen on why diden't he give the prophet p.b.u.h Gausel etc etc when he passed away why did Imam Ali do it?

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Dua Zahra Let’s first settle this problem of DIVINE APPOINTMENT of Hz. Ali (ra) and his willingness of giving it up.

And note IN the sermon 3 you had quoted Hz. Ali (ra) completely forgot to mention that **‘great event’ **of his DIVINE APPOINTMENT to the Khilaafat at KHUM GHADEER.

Do you now agree that he did not pitch this important point (for the Shias this must the most important point) for his right to the Khilaafat/Imamate?

I will respond tomorrow to your reply as I have to go somewhere important.

Since you have asked I will respond – but this is not the Subject of your thread. So let us not get side tracked from the topic of your thread.

Allah (swt) out of His Mercy and Grace on the Ummah let it happen that the best person to lead the Ummah after the Prophet (saw)’s demise be the Khalifah of the Ummah.

It has been discussed here: http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=184901&highlight=Funeral

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IMAM ALI’S CONCIOUSNESS OF HIS PRIORITIES

There is a consensus among the historians of the Sunni and the Shiite worlds that Imam Ali bin Abi Talib was indignant towards the election of Abu Baker in the beginning, and that he did not give him his oath of allegiance, but sat in his house for some period of time; that he commented on the objection of the Quraish in the (Thaqifah of Bani Saidah) that they are the tree (origin) of the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) by saying: ‘They advance the argument of being the tree (origin) but failed to take advantage of the fruits’.
Sharif Rida mentioned in “Nahj al-Balaghah that: The Imam complained some day against the Quraish and said “O Allah help me against the Quraish and those who supported them. They have served my kinship, turned away from me and agreed upon than anyone else’.
Despite the consciousness of Imam Ali of being the most deserving of the Khilafah, he later on paid the oath of allegiance to Abu Bakr, and that was when large number of Muslim communities apostacised (Riddan) At that time Uthman bin Affan went to him and said to him “O my cousin, definitely no one will go out to fight these people where you had not given your oath of allegiance!’ (Murtada: Al-Shafi, vol-3, P. 242).
Then he sent for Abu Bakr to come to him, when Abu Bakr came, he (Ali) said to him, “I swear by God, we did not compete with you what Allah has bestowed on you of good and favor, but we thought that we have a share in this affair but we were overwhelmed. He addressed the Muslims saying: “Nothing prevented me from paying allegiance to Abu Bakr, except that I know his right (in this affair), but we see that we have a share in this affair, and we were overwhelmed. Then he paid allegiance to Abu Bakr. The Muslims (present) said: ‘You have done what is right and what is good…”.
No doubt the denial of Imam Ali of paying allegiance to Abu Bakr immediately (after his election), was due to the fact that he saw himself as the most suitable person for the Caliphate, that is true; or it was due to belief in the necessity of taking part in the Shura and the impermissibility of someone other than him usurping it without due right. Aman from Bani Asad had asked him ‘How did your people denied you this position when you are the most deserving of it? He replied, ‘O brother of Bani Asad… for some one take this position by force when we are the closest in relation to the Messenger of Allah and was most honored, that is selfishness which some souls were very rich in.
Imam Amir Mumin had said in his famous sermon named Shaqshaqiyyah:
“By Allah, so-and-so has dressed himself with it (the Caliphate) and he certainly knew that my position in relation to it was the same as the position of the pivot to the grinding-stone. The floodwater flows down from me and the bird cannot fly up to me. I put a certain veil against the Caliphate and kept myself detached from it. Then I began to think whether I should assault or endure calmly the blinding darkness of tribulations wherein the grown up are feeble and the young grow old, and the true believer acts under strain till he meets Allah (on his death). I found that endurance thereon was wiser. So I adopted patience although there was pricking in the eye and suffocation in the throats. I watched the plundering of my heritage, till the first one went his way but handed it to so-and-so after him. Nevertheless I persevered despite the length of period, and the severity of tribulations, till when he went his way of death, he put the matter of Caliphate in a group; and regarded me to be one of them. But good heavens! What had I to do with this Shura (consultation)? Was there any doubt about me with regard to the first of them, that I was now considered one of these ones?”
There is another narration, from Zayd bin Ali, that Imam Amir Muminin has said, The people gave their oath of allegiance to Abu Bakr, while I am the more deserving of that garment, but I restrained my anger and waited and lowered my chest to the ground (controlled my wrath).”
In these sermons, Imam Ali bin Abi Talib points to his being the most deserving of the Caliphate and one who with more right to it, for the Household of the Prophet are the fruits, if the Quraish were the tree (origin) of the Messenger of Allah. He does not point to the existence of any text (nass) from the Messenger of Allah specifying him as his successor, or his appointing him as the Khalifah after him. Kulayni reports from Imam Muhammad Baqir his saying: Imam Ali has never called (people) to himself and that he confirmed the people on what they did and concealed his affair’.
If the Hadith of Ghadir is considered the clearest and the strongest text from the Prophet as regards Amir Muminin (Ali), some of the earlier scholars of Imamate Shiism like Sharif Murtada consider it as an unclear and ambiguous text on the issue of Khilafah. For he says in (Al-Shafi) “We do not claim absolute knowledge in the text (above), neither for ourselves nor against our opponents, and we do not know of any of our people who claim that’ (13).
Therefore, the companions did not understand from the Hadith of Ghadir or any other Hadith, the meaning of specific text or appointment to the Caliphate. Due to this, they chose the Shura way as a mode of choosing a leader. They then gave their oaths of allegiance to Abu Bakr as Khalifah after the Prophet (peace be upon him), which clearly shows that no clear meaning of Khilafah was deduced from the reported texts for Imam Ali or the non-existence of such text at that time.

IMAM ALI AND SHURA (CONSULTATION)


What emphasizes the fact that Shura (consultation) was the constitutional system that Imam Amir Muminin Ali bin Abi Talib abided by; and that he had no knowledge of vertical hereditary leadership of the Ahl al-Bayt, is his participation in the Shura process after the death of Caliph Umar bin Khattab, and his arguments before the members of the Shura on his virtues and his role in the service of Islam; so also the fact that he did not point to the issue of the text or his appointment as Khalifah after the Prophet. If the Hadith of Ghadir has any of this import, the Imam would have refered to it, and he would have won the day with what is greater and stronger than mentioning his virtues.
Imam Ali believed in the system of consultation and it’s being first and foremost the right of the Immigrants and the Helpers (Muhajirin and Ansar). Due to this he refused to accede to the call of rebels-after the murder of Caliph Uthman, who invited him to assume power, and he said to them “This is not of your powers, this is for the Muhajirin and Ansar, anyone they chose as a leader will be a leader”.
When the Immigrants and the Helpers came to him and said, “Stretch your hand, we would give you our oath of allegiance”, he withdrew from them. They repeated as the first, and he also withdrew again, and they repeated that for the third time then he said “Leave me and look for another person and know that, if I responded to you, I will do with you what I know…. and if you leave me alone, I am just like one of you, I would be the most obedient and loyal to anyone you choose to conduct your affairs for me to be a vizier is better for you than to be a leader” He walked to Talhah and Zubair and put it across to them and said:” If anyone of you wishes , I will give him my oath of allegiance” They both said “ No … the people accept you more (than any other man). At the end he said to them “If you insist, my oath of allegiance “bayah” must not be secret, and it will not be taken till after the acceptance of the (general) Muslim populace, so I will go out to the Masjid (mosque) anyone who wishes to give his oath of allegiance to me let him do it”. (14)
Therefore, if the theory of a “text” and appointment is established and well- known to the Muslims, it would not be permissible for Imam (Ali) to reject the revolters, and then wait for the word of the Immigrants and Helpers (Muhajirin & Ansar), as it will also not be permissible for him to say “ to be a vizier is better for you than to be a leader”. It will also not be right for him to put the leadership (Khilafah) before Talhah and Al-Zubair, and he will not need to wait for the oath of allegiance from the general Muslims.
There is another narration from the work of Salim bin Qays al-Hilali that discloses the belief of Imam Ali in Shura, and the right of the Ummah to elect its leader. He said in one of his letters, “What is obligatory in the laws of Allah and Islam is that the Muslims, of if their leader dies or is killed, they should not perform any act nor innovate something, nor move in order to do something new, unless they choose for themselves a chaste leader, who is learned, scrupulous, and well-versed in the legal and traditional matters”. (15)
When Talhah and Al-Zubair dissented, he pleaded for his case on the basis of their oath of allegiance to him, saying: “You gave me your oath of allegiance and now you breached it.” He did not point to the issue of a text from the Prophet of Allah (peace be upon him). All that he said to Al-Zubair which made him to desist from fighting him, was his reminding him of the statement of the Prophet (S.A.W) that, “You will fight him, while being a transgressor!”
Imam Ali also said to Mu'awiyah who rebelled against him …My allegiance in Madinah is binding on you in Sham (Syria), because the people who swore their oath of allegiance to me, where the same people who swore allegiance to Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman, so the one present has no other alternative to choose, nor has the absent the right to reject, Definitely Shura is the right of Muhajirin and Ansar, when they agree on a person, and called him the leader (of the Ummah), therein lies the pleasure of Allah..’
So, Shura is the basis of leadership in the right of Imam Ali, and this was in the absence of the theory of (a text and. (divine) appointment or selection), Which was not referred to by the Imam in any instance.
Imam Ali views himself, undoubtedly, as an ordinary person, who is not infallible, and he demanded from the Shiites to other Muslims to view him in that sense. History has preserved for us a wonder of his many wonders which is transmitted by Kulayni in al-Kafi, where he says:
“I am in myself not above mistake, and I am not contented that my actions are free of it, except that Allah suffices me of myself, with what He bestows onto me’. (16)
The belief of Imam Ali in Shura (Consultation) as a constitution for the Muslims, became very clear in the process of the Caliphate of Imam Hassan when the Muslims came to him after the strike of Abdul Rahman bin Muljan on him, and requested him to appoint his son Hassan after him (as the leader), for he said “No, we did go to the Prophet of Allah and said,” Appoint (for us a leader), and he said” No, I fear that you will be divided on his affairs, as Harun, but if Allah finds any good in your hearts, he will choose for you’ They requested him to point to someone, but he did not . They then said to him,” If we lost you, we will not lose giving our oath of allegiance to Hassan. He said, “I do not command, nor prevent you, you can discern better”. (17)
Hafiz Abu Bakr Ibn Abi al-Dunya (208-281) has mentioned in the book titled “The Murder of Imam, the Commander of the Faithful, from Abdul Rahman bin Jundub from his father who said “I said “ O! Commander of the faithful, if we lose you (if you die) and we will not lose, we will give our oath of allegiance to Hassan. He said, “I will not command you (to do that) nor prevent you”. I repeated what I said and he replied in the same way. (18)
Sheikh Hassan bin Sulaiman has mentioned in 'Mukhtasar Basair al-Darajat’ from Salim bin Qays al- Hilali, who said “I heard Ali saying, while in the company of his two sons and Abdullah bin Ja’far and some of his close associates (supporters) ‘ Leave people with what they have chosen for themselves, and maintain your silence. (19)
Imam Ali the leader of the faithful has given his will to Imam Hassan and his other children, but he never mention the issue of leadership and the Caliphate, His will was spiritual, ethical and personal, or as, Sheikh Mufid has said in Al-Irshad, the will was for Hassan regarding his family, children and companions, his responsibility and his charity’. (20)
That will is as follows:
“ This is what Ali bin Abi Talib has willed. He willed (enjoined) that he bears witness that there is no god (deity) except Allah Alone, He has no partner with Him, and bears witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger, He sent him with guidance and the religion of truth, that He makes it prevail over all religion, even though the pagans (polytheists) may detest (it). That “… Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death are (all) for Allah, the Lord of the worlds … with this am I commanded, and I am of the Muslims”. Then I enjoin you O Hassan and my entire children and family and to whomever my book reaches, that you should fear Allah, your Lord. “ So die not except as Muslims “And hold fast, all together by the Rope of which Allah (stretches out for you) and be not divided among yourselves.” I heard the Prophet of Allah (peace be upon him) saying “ keeping Straight (making peace in) the relations between you is better that too much fasting and prayer (in which the relations are severed), the guilt that wipes away religion is the severing of relations. There is no power except with Allah. Maintain your next of kin and make good your relations with them, so that accountability will be light on you. (Fear) Allah in the affairs of the orphans, you should not leave them without food (even for alternate days) they should not be neglected in your presence. (Fear) Allah, in the affairs of your neighbors, they are the will of the Messenger of Allah, for he kept on enjoining us (to do good to them) to the extent that we thought he would apportion to them a share of the inheritance. (Fear) Allah in the commandments of the Quran, so that no other people will act upon it before you. (Fear) Allah in the affairs of the House of your Lord, it should not be disserted as long as you live, for if it became disserted you will not be aware of each other. (Fear) Allah in the affairs of Ramadan, for fasting it is a shield for you from the fire. (Fear) Allah as regards Jihad for the sake of Allah with your hands, wealth and tongues. (Fear) Allah in the payment of Zakat for it extinguishes the anger of the Lord. (Fear) Allah in the covenant of your Prophet, he should not be wronged in your midst. (Fear) Allah in what your right hands possess (servants and maids). Beware not to fear any blame in implementing Allah’s commandments. It is enough for you (to remember) “ Speak good to people” as Allah has commanded you. Do not abandon ‘enjoining good and forbidding evil (Al-Amr bi al-Maruf Wa al-Nahy an al-Munkar)’, lest the worst of you be made rulers over you, and the best of you will pray, and their prayers will not be accepted. I advise you my children with maintaining your relations and generosity. I exhort you against cutting your relations, competing in amassing wealth and division. “Help you one another in virtue and piety; but do not help one another in sin and transgression. And fear Allah-Verily, Allah is severe in punishment.” May Allah protect you, members of the Household (of the Prophet (peace be upon him), May he preserve the (message) of your Prophet in you. I bid you farewell. My greetings of peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you”. (21)
For the reason (mentioned above) this precious, spiritual and ethical will did not play any role in recommending Imam Hassan for he Caliphate, because it is devoid of any pointer to it. It was not also an alternative to the Shura system which members of the Prophets household stick to as a constitution for the Muslims.

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Sorry if it is digression but who was the Caliphate after Hazrat Ali RA and how he became one? Thanks in advance.

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Nahjul Balagha is not an authentic book according to the Sunni Scholars, as it contains many superficial things.

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abu bakar (ra) and umar (ra) rank much higher than Ali (ra) and ali (ra) knew that very well so i doubt he wud say such things against them....

at one hand these ppl celebrate hussain (ra) standing up against yazeed cuz he was not right in the claim of caliphate; and on the other they accuse Ali (ra) of cowardice that he kept quiet and not speak against the unjust caliphate (as they assume)....
why show such disrespect for the man u claim to love so much????

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I pity Your imagination !!

Re: The sermon of Hz Ali(a.s) about 1st 3 caliphs

armughal, he spoke about it alright...and it wasnt mild either. According to you, He is a coward if he doesnt speak about it, but when sermon 3 shows up, apparently the source becomes unauthentic :-p.

Re: The sermon of Hz Ali(a.s) about 1st 3 caliphs

aah, who told you that Abu Bakar and umer were superioir than Ali [as]? Can any1 in this world be an inch equal to the knowledge Ali bin Abi Talib [as] had?(being the inheritor of the knowledge of Prophet [s]).

Those people kept saying:
Umar was often exacerbated if Ali was not available to solve an entangled problem. He often used to say: ‘Umar would have been ruined if Ali was not there’..
*The life of Caliph Ali’, page 202 (published in Lucknow) by Allamah Abul Hasan Ali Nadwi *

Abu Bakr who said at the time of his inaugural speech

“Now then: O people, I have been put in charge of you, although I am not the best of you. Help me if I do well; rectify me if I do wrong”.
Tarikh Tabari, English translation Volume 9 page 201

Lets compare it with the challenge of Ali bin Abi Talib [as] :

'Ali said ‘Ask me about the Book of Allah because there is no Ayah but that I know where it was revealed, at night or in day time, on the plain or in the mountain’
Tareekh ul-Khulafa, Page 194

There are number of verses where companions including Abu Bakar and Umer were rebuked but about Ali [as] we read:

**“Allah did not reveal an Ayah beginning O you who believe..’ but that Ali is its Amir and its eminence. Allah reproached the companions of Muhammad in more then one place but he never mentioned ‘Ali but with approval”. **
History of the Khalifas who took the right way, page 179 English translation of Tarikh ul Khulafa by al Hafidh Jalaladeen as Suyuti – rendered into English by Abdassamad Clarke

Yet they were superioir than Ali [as], huh! Dontwant to go in that detail, traits are suffice to tell who was superioir and who wasnt!

As for your comment that “Shia accuse Ali [as] for cowardness” then no need to put words into our mouth!

As i stated above that its your own accusation on Shias, having said that, i dont want the threads to go in another direction by showing the disrespect you people do of the one whom you claim to love so much!

Re: The sermon of Hz Ali(a.s) about 1st 3 caliphs

Mashallah, some fight going on here all based on the irrefutable source: Quran :k:

Re: The sermon of Hz Ali(a.s) about 1st 3 caliphs

After the Ambiya, Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddique (radi Allahu anhu) holds the greatest status, then Sayyiduna Umar-e-Farouk, Hazrat Usman-e-Ghani and Hazrat Ali-e-Murtaza (radi Allahu anhum). After the Prophets, and out of all of Allah's creations including Jinn, humans and Angels, the most virtuous are Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddique, then Hazrat Farouk-e-Azam, then Hazrat Uthman Gani, then Hazrat Maula Ali (radi Allahu anhum).

Whoever believes that Hazrat Ali (radi Allahu anhu) is more virtuous than Hazrat Abu Bakr (radi Allahu anhu) or Hazrat Umat Farouk (radi Allahu anhu), such a person is a misguided person and from a bad sect.

May Allah save us all from these misguided beliefs.. Ameen Ya Rabbul Aalameen.

Re: The sermon of Hz Ali(a.s) about 1st 3 caliphs

Fantasy world :halo:
I really pity and sometimes get surprised to see such people who came to this conclusion while factual proofs (the traits of Shaykhayn and Ali [as]) says something different.

Re: The sermon of Hz Ali(a.s) about 1st 3 caliphs

^ Your infallible imams have tremendous love and loyalty for Hz. Abu Bakr (ra) and Hz. Umar (ra) - Check your own books. Go ahead and deny it as usual that your imams got it wrong or the book is not well known or something to the effect.

Imam Jaffar as Sadiq (ra) expressed his support to Abu Bakr and Umar:

Once wife of Imam Jaffar as Sadiq asked him about Abu Bakr and Umar.
He replied, *"I support them”. *
Then he said to his wife,” you should support them also."
His wife replied, "So should I say to my creator when I meet Him, that it is your order to support Abu Bakr and Umar."
The truthful Imam Jaffar replied, ” Yes."

  • Source: Rawzatul Kafi, vol.8, p.101

Once, Imam Muhammad al-Baqir (ra) while sitting with his companions, praised Abu Bakr by calling him the truthful *("as-Siddiq"). *

One of his companions got astonished by this remark and inquired if he (the Imam) really meant what he said. Upon this Imam al-Baqir replied, "Yes Abu Bakr is the truthful and whoever does not give this attribution to him, then may Allah make that person (who did not give the attribute) helpless on the day of resurrection"

Source: Kashful Ghumamah, vol.2, p.174]

Heed the following narration of your Imam: "Yes Abu Bakr is the truthful and whoever does not give this attribution to him, then may Allah make that person (who did not give the attribute) helpless on the day of resurrection"

We have the following narration from Saheeh Bukhari - Obviously you will not agree to it.

Al-Bukhari reported on the authority of Ibn Abbas: When (the dead body of) 'Umar was put on his deathbed, the people gathered around him and invoked (Allah) and prayed for him before the body was taken away, and I was amongst them. Suddenly I felt somebody taking hold of my shoulder and found out that he was 'Ali bin Abi Talib. 'Ali invoked Allah's Mercy for 'Umar and said, "O 'Umar! You have not left behind you a person whose deeds I like to imitate and meet Allah with more than I like your deeds. By Allah! I always thought that Allah would keep you with your two companions, for very often I used to hear the Prophet saying, 'I, Abu Bakr and 'Umar went (somewhere); I, Abu Bakr and 'Umar entered (somewhere); and I, Abu Bakr and 'Umar went out.'