Re: The punishment of apostate
I don’t care for praise from you, much less condescending praise. I have expressed my opinions in this manner before, this isn’t the first time. However, I think you didn’t understand my current resoonse. Muqaw fitnah reference was about the jews who pretended to be Muslim with a deliberate attempt to convert out of the faith. Many of the early converts to Islam were servants, poor people. They had nothing worldly to gain from their conversion to Islam, but they had much to lose. They didn’t gain wealth or status or power, they were risking their livelihood and lives. Many were tortured. So, firstly, the Prophet SAWS did not impose Islam on them; there was no compulsion. As Allah says in the Quran that upon the Prophet is only the duty of reminding. So, these converts were not forced, but they made huge sacrifices to accept Islam in the sense that it involved great risk. So, picture these new converts…some who have been through mental and physical torture…have begun to practice Islam. It’s a new thing for them, much to learn and get used to, they still may be a bit shaky. And all of a sudden they see a huge number of Muslims suddenly convert out of Islam. How do you think they would feel? Confused and hurt and doubtful. See you only see this as “freedom of speech”…this is more than speech, it’s deception, it’s underhanded. You accused me of lies..well what do you call this particular tactic if not a huge lie? They were not being stopped from expressing their criticism of Islam. But was it necessary to resort to this? Was it necessary to tell people to stay away from the messenger, to ostracize him? To plant to kill him? Getting your kids to throw stones at him? This is not just speech or expression…these are dangerous actions. I am surprised you merely see this as “freedom of speech and expression”…or you might see it as “freedom to oppose/disbelieve”…but it’s more than that, worse than that, I would say you’ve over simplified it.
yes that last post was the first one from you without any attacks so i responded in the same way. its hard to respond to a post which is full of attacks and really serves no purpose, so hopefully you will keep that in mind from now on.
once again, you have completley different view and understanding on freedom of speech.
as far as about the time of the prophet, history has many sides, yours is coming from islamic POV. forget the past, but even today how free is someone to criticise islam in a muslim country?