The Prophet only knows what Allah reveals to Him

The Prophet only knows what Allah reveals to Him

Bismillah wal-Hamdulillah, wa Sallallahu ^Ala Rasulillah:

It’s confirmed that the Prophet only knows what Allah reveals to Him. Only Allah knows all of the (Ghayb) unforeseen. So the one who says or claims that the Prophet knows all the unseen, or that he knows everything that Allah knows, then he would have made an equal to Allah, and that is kufur. Allah has no equal or similitude subhanahu in the self, nor in the doings nor in the attributes (Sifat).

Enough to clarify that and to refute the false claim that the Prophet knows all the Ghayb, the ayah 59 in surat al-‘An^am
{ وعنده مفاتح الغيب لا يعلمها إلاّ هوَ ويعلم ما في البرِّ والبحر وما تسْقُطُ من ورقةٍ إلاّ يعلمها ولا حبَّةٍ في ظلمات الأرض ولا رطْبٍ ولا يابسٍ إلاّ في كتابٍ مبين }

In this Ayah Allah praised himself by knowing everything inclusively. So the one who claims that the Prophet knows everything that Allah knows would have made the Prophet resemble Allah in that attribute, even if he claimed that the Prophets knows everything about ghayb by Allah giving him that knowledge of everything inclusively, that is still likening the creations to Allah and that is kufr.

Also the ayah in sort az-Zumar verse 46:
{عَالِمَ الْغَيْبِ وَالشَّهَادَةِ}

And:
{عَالِمُ الْغَيْبِ فَلَا يُظْهِرُ عَلَى غَيْبِهِ أَحَداً إِلَّا مَنِ ارْتَضَى مِن رَّسُولٍ فَإِنَّهُ يَسْلُكُ مِن بَيْنِ يَدَيْهِ وَمِنْ خَلْفِهِ رَصَداً}( سورة الجن: 26 ، 27)

This ayah means Allah knows all the Ghayb and he does not reveal this Ghayb to anyone, however Allah reveals some of the ghayb to the Prophet and to some of the angels. Allah mentioned in the night of al-Qadr:
فيها يفرق كل أمرٍ حكيمٍ

“Fiha Yufraqu kullu ‘Amirn Hakim” which means in that night Allah gives the angels the knowledge of what is going to happen during the coming year in what pertains to the sustenance (rizq), the changes in the situation of the slaves, and the like.

And this ayah is another proof that the Prophet does not know everything that Allah knows:
{قُلْ مَا كُنتُ بِدْعاً مِّنْ الرُّسُلِ وَمَا أَدْرِي مَا يُفْعَلُ بِي وَلَا بِكُمْ إِنْ أَتَّبِعُ إِلَّا مَا يُوحَى إِلَيَّ} ( سورة الأحقاف: 9)

This ayah clearly shows that the Prophet is saying that he does not know what Allah has willed for him and his nation, so how could one claim that the Prophet knows all the ghayb!.

Also al-Bukhariy narrated in al-Jami^ a Hadith that has the meaning of theses verses concerning ^uthman son of Madh^oon, the narration confirms that the Prophet only knows what Allah revealed to him, and that He does not have the knowledge of all of the Ghayb. Also in another Hadith narrated by Abu Hurayrah where the angles say to the Prophet “ you don’t know what these people did after you from” bad deeds.. the hadith..

And it’s also known that once the Prophet sent 70 very knowledgeable companions (Sahabah) to a tribe in a certain area to teach the religion, some other tribes opposed them and killed all 70 companions. If the Prophet knows all the unseen and all the ghayb he would not have sent these great companions to get killed. This hadith is also narrated by al-Bukhariy and others.

Also once the Prophet lost his camel, then the people of Quraysh said to him: A Prophet and he does not know where his camel is? And so the Prophet said: “I only know what Allah reveals to me, and I swear by Allah that the camel is in so and so place”. This is another proof that the Prophet only knows what Allah reveals to him. The Prophet did not know the place of the camel, then Allah revealed to him at that moment where the camel was and they found it where he said Sallallahu ^Alayhi wa Sallam.

This is the creed of Ahlus-Sunnah and the true Sufis. Although some Sufis exaggerated in this issue, they not only claimed that the Prophet knows all ghayb, some they also said the Prophet is not a human and that he is physical light, and some they said he is part of Allah! All these misconceptions are due to extreme ignorance in the creed.

We ask Allah to protect us from exaggerations and extremism in religion, and we ask Allah to keep us on the moderate belief of Ahlus-Sunnah, the belief that Allah has the knowledge of all things and that Allah gives part of this knowledge to whomever he wills, and that Allah has perfect attributes and He is clear from non befitting attributes and imperfections, Allah exists without a beginning and without a place, the six directions do not contain Allah, He has no limits or Body, and he knows best.

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I dunt think anyone disagrees that Prophet s.a.w only knows What ALLAH told him but how can u say that he s.a.w isnt the one who've read Loh-e-mehfooz ;), and do u mind adding translation next to every ayyat, make it little less confusing.

I dnt really know y is a big concern that how much Prophet s.a.w knows... He knows more than all of us, so how wud we even know how much he knows ... I think we have better things to worry about !

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Aqeel bhai, I think what Ahmed is saying that "Alim_ul-Ghaib" is the quality of Allah SWT only.

Some people, out of respect and love for Prophet SAW start beleiving that he was also Alim-ul-Ghaib, and that is, in reality, a form of Shirk...

Alim-ul-ghaib actually means knowing the ilm of unknown without any source in between

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what about hazrat Khizr, the way he reacted to things in front of musa, off course that means he knew unseen, but offcourse ALLAH was the source behind that too ......
There cant be anything without permission of ALLAH,.... People claim that he didnt know unseen as Prophet s.a.w like them. When everyoen belives that ALLAH is Khaliq then how can there be a case when there is anything anyone can do without ALLAH's will. Some people belive that Rasool s.a.w didnt know unseen and and hence they say he didnt have ilm-e-ghaib. Others belive he knew unseen so he had Ilm-e-ghaib, The way i see things people try to save toheed so much that they destroy Risaalat.

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^^

though it may look like out of topic but, can anyone tell me about Waqay-e-Ufq, when Hazrat Ayesha (RZA) was blamed and Prophet (PBUH) was quite until Allah (SWT) reavled her Innocence in Quran...?

If the Prophet (PBUH) had Ilm-ul-Ghayab, y couldn't he forsee the innocence of the her Wife...???

I am not de-grading Prophet (PBUH), i can never dare to do it, all i am saying is, Prophet had to convey all the information he has to the people, and all the Prophets including Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) did it honestly, they conveyed the knowledge which was revealed to them... they Knew nothing else other then what is told to them...

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It is really not important to know about how much Prophet (SAWW) knew but it is important that what he said. think about it.

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Some people claim that the Prophet knows all the Ghaib! That's not true. Some of the unforseen is given to the Prophet such as the day of judgment and what's after.. but not all the Ghayb.

Allah has the attributes of Perfection, he is clear from all non befitting attributes. Allah has power over all, and does not need any of his creation and Exists without a place. Allah does not dwell inside of his creations, nor does Allah occupy places or spaces, He exists without a beginning and without a place and without a form. Imam ^Ali said: “Allah existed eternally and there was no place, and now he exists as He existed eternally; without being in a place” or on the throne. He subjugates and preserves the throne by his will and does not sit on it as the jews claim! Allah is great.

Prophet Muhammad is the best of Allah’s creations. He is a human being, and he had over 2000 miracles that all indicate his prophethood and the prohethood of all the Prophets before that they all came with the same religion, Islam, but with difference in their laws.

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Can i ask a question?
which religion did the Prophet practise before founding Islam?? Judaism or Christianity or some Arab Pagan religion??

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^from my understanding monotheism, the deen of Ibrahim (AS)
i don't think all of the true religions which Iesa (AS) preached reached Makkah so most likely Prophet (SAW) was not aware of all the shariah of Christianity. I could be wrong, Wallahu 'Alim (And Allah knows best)

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From all the sources i have studied Prophet believe in none of the religions and practised none.
But yes he was guided by Allaah till he attained his Prophethood.

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Prove to me from the Quran that Prophet had ilm-al-ghaib, no other sources for now.

For your reference, please read Surah Al Qadr, clearly Allaah says to the Prophet Wa ma adraka ma layl at ul Qadr.

Now go ahead andprovie your point now. Use the sources of the Quran.

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Peace All

It is true that Muhammad (SAW) knows some of the Unseen, just like we know about some of the unseen, because he has told us about it.

1) We cannot assume that Muhammad (SAW) has hidden any of what is revealed to him from his Ummah, for that it will benefit us in that knowledge, for example ... the future and prophecy proves the claim.

2) If Muhammad (SAW) knew anything of the ghaib that we do not know, then it is pointless information for us, for he completed his mission and favour upon us in his own lifetime.

3) The major evidence to support that ... Whatever Muhammad (SAW) knew of the ghaib is what we know of the ghaib is in the Qur'an ...

Surah 81 At-Takwir Verse 24
And he (Muhammad [SAW]) withholds not a knowledge of the Unseen.

There it is in clear view that everything he knew he has told us ... Now let's ponder on the benefits of thinking otherwise!

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one replied monotheism,the religion (deen means religion only naa?) of Ibrahim, and one replied none.
i am confused yaar!
and whats Shariah of Chrisitianity mean??
and if he practised no religion, wont he be called a non-beliver, untill he gained Prohethood??

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Now let us discuss what do you mean by a non-believer, in that case I have to agree that even Abraham was a non-believer, because he attained Prophethood later.

Now, a non-believer in what a Non-believer in Allaah, non-believer in Islam, or non believer in other religions.

So they are three levels I have to answer
1) Was Prophet a Non-believer in Allaah ofcourse no - Examples he desisted from Idol worship, but ofcourse believed in the Supreme God.
2) Non-believer in Islam: From a non-muslim perspective, if Prophet was a non-believer then we already assume that Islam already existed, if called a non-believer. But accordign to the non-muslims its not the case i.e. Islam never existed.

So, hypothesis is again was Prophet a non-believer. No, Prophet believed in One and only God i.e. La ilaha illalaaah'. One of the most important factors to surrender your will to God, now what does surrender your will to God mean in simple terms a Muslim.

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Salam brother,

Long time,

I feel your first point for me atleast sought of feels you have misunderstood the point of Ilm ul Ghaib or the Unseen: For me I will make it simple, i dont know what will happen to me tomorrow unless and until I am informed by someone who already knows it.
In case of the Prophet it was the same Prophet by himself know nothing but Allaah was the one who informed the Prophet let us talk about Prophecy, or any other claim which you can recall.
I will surely go ahead with this verse

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**SHAKIR:
* You have no concern in the affair whether He turns to them (mercifully) or chastises them, for surely they are unjust.

I have no time but this very verse can claim Prophet did not know what will happen in the future because he did not have the knowledge of the Unseen, unless told by Allaah.

097.002SHAKIR: And what will make you comprehend what the grand night

Proves Prophet did not what happened in the past unless told by Allaah.

Point no. 3 has to be taken into context, this is not the only verse which Allaah has told about the Unseen, infact in one of the other verses Allaah i cant remember much now.

Lastly i regarding the fact of this is not a major problem as we have to look into the message. Problem is we have not looked into his message and we are aint benefiting from it.

I had written a small piece of information about the Ghaib

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Does Prophet (May peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) have knowledge of Unseen?

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Prophet a Warner

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Say: "I am no bringer of new-fangled doctrine among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I follow but that which is revealed to me by inspiration; I am but a Warner open and clear."

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And make not another object of worship with Allah: I am from Him a Warner to you, clear and open!

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Thou art no other than a warner.

Allaah has Power over all things

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Say: "I have no power over any harm or profit to myself except as Allah willeth. To every people is a term appointed: when their term is reached, not an hour can they cause neither delay, nor (an hour) can they advance (it in anticipation)."

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Say: "I have no power over any good or harm to myself except as Allah willeth. If I had knowledge of the unseen, I should have multiplied all good, and no evil should have touched me: I am but a warner, and a bringer of glad tidings to those who have faith."

Allaah swt only has knowledge of Unseen

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Say: None in the heavens or on earth, except Allah, knows what is hidden: nor can they perceive when they shall be raised up (for Judgment).

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Say: "I tell you not that with me are the treasures of Allah, nor do I know what is hidden, nor do I tell you I am an angel. I but follow what is revealed to me." Say: "can the blind be held equal to the seeing?" Will ye then consider not?

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Such are some of the stories of the unseen, which We have revealed unto thee: before this, neither thou nor thy people knew them. So persevere patiently: for the End is for those who are righteous.

Ahadith for some more Proof

Aa’ishah, the wife of the Prophet says, “And whoever tells you that the Prophet knows what is going to happen tomorrow, is a liar.” She then recited: “No soul can know what it will earn tomorrow.”

When a few small girls were beating on the duff and singing in the presence of Allah’s Messenger , they said, “There is a Prophet amongst us who knows what will happen tomorrow.” The Messenger of Allah said, “Do not say this, but go on saying what you have spoken before.”

“And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except what He wills.” Surah 2:255

Volume 006, Book 060, Hadith Number 378.

Narated By Masruq : I said to 'Aisha, "O Mother! Did Prophet Muhammad see his Lord?" 'Aisha said, "What you have said makes my hair stand on end ! Know that if somebody tells you one of the following three things, he is a liar: Whoever tells you that Muhammad saw his Lord, is a liar." Then 'Aisha recited the Verse:

'No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision. He is the Most Courteous Well-Acquainted with all things.' (6.103) 'It is not fitting for a human being that Allah should speak to him except by inspiration or from behind a veil.' (42.51) 'Aisha further said, "And whoever tells you that the Prophet knows what is going to happen tomorrow, is a liar." She then recited:

'No soul can know what it will earn tomorrow.' (31.34) She added: "And whoever tell you that he concealed (some of Allah's orders), is a liar." Then she recited: 'O Apostle! Proclaim (the Message) which has been sent down to you from your Lord...' (5.67) 'Aisha added. "But the Prophet saw Gabriel in his true form twice."

Volumn 005, Book 059, Hadith Number 336.

Narated By Ar-Rubai bint Muauwidh : The Prophet came to me after consuming his marriage with me and sat down on my bed as you (the sub-narrator) are sitting now, and small girls were beating the tambourine and singing in lamentation of my father who had been killed on the day of the battle of Badr. Then one of the girls said, "There is a Prophet amongst us who knows what will happen tomorrow." The Prophet said (to her)," Do not say this, but go on saying what you have spoken before."

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Wait. The Prophet only knows what Allah reveals to Him? For those who believe in Allah, wouldn't this be true of all human beings, not just limited to the prophet?

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I said the same thing which brother slaveofAllah said that prophet (SAW) did believe in one God and that is the monotheism; however, he did not follow the specific shariah, (e.g. what is halal and what is haram) of Iesa (AS) which was the correct shariah before the final part of Allah's message revealed to prophet (SAW). I hope this clears up the confusion. Again, this is my understanding from the little knowledge that i have, i could certainly be wrong!

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Hi stircasy, can be more specific. I could not get your exactly can you please be more detailed.

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Wa'alaikumuSalaam bro.

hahaha ... actually I have not done the misunderstanding ... sorry to say but you have misunderstood me. We are talking from the same side here. I was merely responding to the title of the thread.

It states: in paraphrase that Only the Prophet (SAW) knows what Allah (SWT) reveals to him. Suggesting by those who support the idea that Muhammad (SAW) has/had ilm-ul-ghaib knew more than what he let on. A sort of pious secret that he had so much knowledge but let it out in bits or something. This idea contradicts my point number 3 ... Which has been given to show that what ever Muhammad (SAW) has given us about the ghaib is his entire set he has NOT WITHELD KNOWLEDGE OF THE UNSEEN ... meaning when he saw Gibreel (AS) he told his people and described what he saw, when he saw Jannah he told his people and described what he saw, when he saw his visions of the signs of Aakhira he told his people and described in his own language what he saw to the best of his understanding, (SAW) ... there is nothing else that he knew that he has kept from us for those who say this are accusing him of secrecy ... for surely disclosure of such vital details would have been better to support his claim of prophethood, but he did not know and he testified to not knowing many times ... particularly in the hadith when Gibreel (AS) visited as a man dressed in white and questioned him about Judgement Day.

I also said that all the references to date about the Ghaib that he did know we also know, okay as people listening, but nonetheless we already know. A prophecy for example is part of the knowledge of the unseen, we know that it will happen, but not necessarily when and in what form. The specifics have been kept very much in the unseen. The Qur'an has come from the Unseen and we know that too, the Qur'an talks about Jannah and Jahanum and they are domains of the unseen also. So I was stressing when Muhammad (SAW) heard of the unseen he let us know about it and all references pertaining to his knowledge of the unseen we already know about them too.

We cannot assume that his knowledge is:

1) In any way his own ability without the Might of Allah (SWT) any more can we say that he wrote or founded the Qur'an ... audzubillah.

2) That his experiences have given him power over us in that knowledge because then we would have to choose to contradict that verse.

He did know of the unseen when it was required of him (SAW), and as soon as he found out about it, he told us everything he could remember. So we are equipped with gems of the knowledge of the unseen in our scriptures so we have no need to look elsewhere to gain in this information. We will not find Sam's grandmother's neighbours time of death in the hadith, nor is this information known by any other than Allah (SWT).

So hopefully we are saying the same thing but in slightly different way.

That ayat from Surah At-Takwir ponder over it for a while it is a major blow to those who assume that Muhammad (SAW) knew more than he let on. Allah (SWT) has told us that He Himself has kept us from Unseen, but he has not told us that whatever Muhammad (SAW) was allowed to see was for his (SAW) eyes only. Rather we are told emphatically that Muhammad (SAW) delivered the information. Which means what he did not say he had no knowledge of, what he did say was the only aspects of Unseen that he knew giving him no edge over his Ummah for he told them everything anyway.

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Salam bro,

Psyah, sorry i will be responding to the the second paragraph only, once i find time i will go through the complete Quote.

Yes i was mentioning the same thing too, these are issues which are lingering in so many minds regarding the Unseen.

You were referring to Prophet only reveals what Allaah guides and ditto with me too. Probaby both were playing around with the words.

Anyways will get back to you on this, sorry to have mentioned something wrong about you. I am a human after all.
Bro.